On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:55:51 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:

"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a “programmable communicating
thermostat” or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes’
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a “non-removable ” FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During “price events” those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During “emergency events” the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

And you find this more reprehensible than say, telling your wife she
has no choice but to carry her baby full term?

Do you think your wife would rather have a say in what happens inside
her body or the temperature of her thermostat.

The thermostat idea is a proposal. The other is something your party
would like to impose on all human females.

American Taliban pointing at controlling thermostats as a problem?

Figures.

And this is a perfect example of why all left coast liberals should be
rounded up and shot. Equating murdering babies with thermostat
control.

Or better yet, make a sport out of it - say ten points a liberal moron
every time one makes such a stupid and worthless comparison.

100 bonus points if you can get them before they utter it.

jps wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:
"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a “programmable communicating
thermostat” or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes’
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a “non-removable ” FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During “price events” those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During “emergency events” the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

And you find this more reprehensible than say, telling your wife she
has no choice but to carry her baby full term?

Yes.

Do you think your wife would rather have a say in what happens inside
her body or the temperature of her thermostat.

She and I discussed and we agreed. We have two beautiful and intelligent
daughters.

The thermostat idea is a proposal. The other is something your party
would like to impose on all human females.

Do you remember when the low flow toilets became law? Do you know what
everyone crossing the border from Canada into the US had in the trunk of
their cars? The high flow toilets still being manufactured in Canada.

If the thermostat idiocy goes into law you will see a rise in on-line
purchases from out of state retailers of non-big-brothered thermostats.

American Taliban pointing at controlling thermostats as a problem?

Figures.

Do you understand the concepts of freedom and liberty?

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:10:07 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:
"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a “programmable communicating
thermostat” or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes’
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a “non-removable ” FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During “price events” those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During “emergency events” the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

And you find this more reprehensible than say, telling your wife she
has no choice but to carry her baby full term?

Yes.

Do you think your wife would rather have a say in what happens inside
her body or the temperature of her thermostat.

She and I discussed and we agreed. We have two beautiful and intelligent
daughters.

The thermostat idea is a proposal. The other is something your party
would like to impose on all human females.

Do you remember when the low flow toilets became law? Do you know what
everyone crossing the border from Canada into the US had in the trunk of
their cars? The high flow toilets still being manufactured in Canada.

If the thermostat idiocy goes into law you will see a rise in on-line
purchases from out of state retailers of non-big-brothered thermostats.

American Taliban pointing at controlling thermostats as a problem?

Figures.

Do you understand the concepts of freedom and liberty?

I broke the lid on one of my 'high volume' toilets. It cost as much to
replace the lid as it would have cost to buy a whole new low volume toilet.
Why - supply versus demand.

'Low volume' is an oxymoron for those toilets anyway. They always have to
be flushed at least twice.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H." wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:10:07 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:
"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a "programmable communicating
thermostat" or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes'
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a "non-removable " FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During "price events" those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During "emergency events" the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

And you find this more reprehensible than say, telling your wife she
has no choice but to carry her baby full term?

Yes.

Do you think your wife would rather have a say in what happens inside
her body or the temperature of her thermostat.

She and I discussed and we agreed. We have two beautiful and intelligent
daughters.

The thermostat idea is a proposal. The other is something your party
would like to impose on all human females.

Do you remember when the low flow toilets became law? Do you know what
everyone crossing the border from Canada into the US had in the trunk of
their cars? The high flow toilets still being manufactured in Canada.

If the thermostat idiocy goes into law you will see a rise in on-line
purchases from out of state retailers of non-big-brothered thermostats.

American Taliban pointing at controlling thermostats as a problem?

Figures.

Do you understand the concepts of freedom and liberty?

I broke the lid on one of my 'high volume' toilets. It cost as much to
replace the lid as it would have cost to buy a whole new low volume
toilet.
Why - supply versus demand.

'Low volume' is an oxymoron for those toilets anyway. They always have to
be flushed at least twice.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Get a Toto toilet.

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:31:01 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:10:07 -0500, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:
"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a "programmable communicating
thermostat" or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes'
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a "non-removable " FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During "price events" those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During "emergency events" the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

And you find this more reprehensible than say, telling your wife she
has no choice but to carry her baby full term?

Yes.

Do you think your wife would rather have a say in what happens inside
her body or the temperature of her thermostat.

She and I discussed and we agreed. We have two beautiful and intelligent
daughters.

The thermostat idea is a proposal. The other is something your party
would like to impose on all human females.

Do you remember when the low flow toilets became law? Do you know what
everyone crossing the border from Canada into the US had in the trunk of
their cars? The high flow toilets still being manufactured in Canada.

If the thermostat idiocy goes into law you will see a rise in on-line
purchases from out of state retailers of non-big-brothered thermostats.

American Taliban pointing at controlling thermostats as a problem?

Figures.

Do you understand the concepts of freedom and liberty?

I broke the lid on one of my 'high volume' toilets. It cost as much to
replace the lid as it would have cost to buy a whole new low volume
toilet.
Why - supply versus demand.

'Low volume' is an oxymoron for those toilets anyway. They always have to
be flushed at least twice.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Get a Toto toilet.


No need to. Mine work. First time, every time, except with a Pampers.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:55:51 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:

"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a “programmable communicating
thermostat” or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes’
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a “non-removable ” FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During “price events” those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During “emergency events” the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

And you find this more reprehensible than say, telling your wife she
has no choice but to carry her baby full term?

Do you think your wife would rather have a say in what happens inside
her body or the temperature of her thermostat.

The thermostat idea is a proposal. The other is something your party
would like to impose on all human females.

American Taliban pointing at controlling thermostats as a problem?

Figures.


--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:45:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

From a California blog:

"What should be controversial in the proposed revisions to Title 24 is
the requirement for what is called a “programmable communicating
thermostat” or PCT. Every new home and every change to existing homes’
central heating and air conditioning systems will required to be
fitted with a PCT beginning next year following the issuance of the
revision. Each PCT will be fitted with a “non-removable ” FM receiver
that will allow the power authorities to increase your air
conditioning temperature setpoint or decrease your heater temperature
setpoint to any value they chose. During “price events” those changes
are limited to +/- four degrees F and you would be able to manually
override the changes. During “emergency events” the new setpoints can
be whatever the power authority desires and you would not be able to
alter them."

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours
and will be overridden by the state of California through its public
and private utility organizations.

All your thermostats are belong to us.

Sounds like Al Gore will be making a bundle selling to California.
--
John H