On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:35:10 -0500, HK wrote:

John wrote:
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:22:11 -0500, "John" wrote:

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On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:21:16 -0500, HK wrote:

John wrote:
"Ceri Thomas" wrote in message
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I'm sure it ran up much more than that as US foreign debt is
12.78trillion
as of June 2007. Then there is internal debt which is much higher as
the
cost of war is at 2.1billion a month on average for the last four
years
alone in Iraq. Not to mention the Afghanistan war, extremely
expensive
homeland security, botched emergency effort in New Orleans, dozens of
natural disasters, domestic auto sector being wiped out. The list is
long.
Most of your foreign debt is to Canada for energy, raw materials,
food
and
assorted other items. The only three areas on growth in the US is law
enforcement ( ironically things like 8million aliens aren't
criminals),
armed forces and the medical fields. Sad state of direction for any
nation.

Do not lose focus on how and where they blew the money-
The one that really fry's me and should have a FULL investigation was
when
Bush flew 10 BILLION IN CASH into the waiting hands of military
contractors.
You can buy a LOT of votes and loyalty with 10 billion, just what did
they
do to deserve such a reward? How much of that made it back to Bush
family
coffers?


The United States of Corporate-ism

http://tinyurl.com/3xcebr
Yeah, we need to get rid of the corporations, put production in the
hands
of the government where it belongs. That would be the fair thing to do.
--
John H

LOL

But on the flip side you should NOT have corporations running the
government! Just check who Bush appointees were.

Mussolini claimed Fascism was only corporatism, the marriage of
corporations
and government....


Where would a president go for appointees? Would current or former
politicians be the best bet? Educators? Union leaders? High contributors?
Those successful in related occupations? Ministers? Olympians?

Were none of Clinton's appointees from the business world?

Which specific appointees do you think are getting money under the table
somehow?
--
John H



Clinton? The first words out of a conservatives mouth "But Clinton....."
Not much of a defense!

My biggest complaint is on the environment.

Bush has stacked all appointed posts with people who are from industry and
attacked/watered down all environmental protections.

for example the EPA - do you like clean air and water - the Bush
administration doesn't.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...schaeffer.html
and
http://www.grist.org/news/muck/2004/11/02/little-epa/

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/30/...gered-species/

I guess I am liberal in that I think the environment is more important than
corporate profit.

****************
If you want to know why something happens in politics - Follow the money!




Do you know anything about Herring?

You are arguing with an idiot.

Harry does not like people who don't abide liars and bigots. He pretends to
have them filtered, but he hangs on every word.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."