Mike wrote:
Just type "outlook express problems" into your web browser and have fun.

Most people only post when they have problems... rarely when things are just
fine. I'm very confident there are far more folks in the latter group, than
the former...

--Mike


Type in "Vista Problems" and see what pops up.

HK wrote:
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources,
not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing
is... except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike


I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

You do know you are stealing intellectual property when you download
from those Russian sites. They DO NOT PAY royalties and have been the
bane of MPAA who are trying to close down these sites.

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:03:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:09:53 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.

I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well. Also, a lot of the better .mp3, mp4 files have
been compressed using other than those recognised by MS.

I tried a few newsreaders, but settled on Forte' Agent. I've gotten
used to it, but it does have some strange "quirks".

I tried a new version a year or two ago and didn't like it. Too many
features. I'm back to 1.91, and have no problems with it. It works well, as
a newsreader.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:09:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

Right - I'm going to give a Russian mob a valid credit card number.

Not to mention that these are non-royalty paying sites and are
essentially pirating the music and movies.

Which I would think should be a problem for you being a professional
writer and such.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know
what the hell you are getting, quality-wise.

The better groups all use the higher compression. The stuff I
download is mostly experimental/trance/ambient stuff that has never
seen a recording studio.

Most of it is junk - some of it is quite good.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:03:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:09:53 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

No problems with OE here... been using it for years. Filters are easy.

I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well. Also, a lot of the better .mp3, mp4 files have
been compressed using other than those recognised by MS.

I tried a few newsreaders, but settled on Forte' Agent. I've gotten
used to it, but it does have some strange "quirks".

If you are into binaries try this one.....
http://www.newsrover.com/

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


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I've used NewsRover for several years and also find it quite capable.

"HK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike


I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.

MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:21:23 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike


I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.

MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.

True enough, but with files using the large sample rates - say CD
quality sample rates of 44.1 KHz at 16 bits - the various compressors
are handy to break up the one file into smaller files for uploading to
the servers. I think that figures to like 85 kB/s - did it in my head
- double that for stereo.

Is that right? Doesn't sound right.

Anyway...

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I
guess what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not
usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?

--Mike

I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I download
MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are available
from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know what
the hell you are getting, quality-wise.

MP3, MP4, JPEG, etc compress very little using any compression technique.
That applies to YENC, RAR, TAR, ZIP, etc. So unless you use the various
compressors to break a large file into parts (multi-part files), there is no
good reason to use one.



I agree. I think "multi-part files" are a pain in the ass.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:09:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Mike wrote:
I used it for a long time, but found it didn't handle multi-part
binaries very well.

I generally don't use it for that, but when I have, it's worked ok. I guess
what I mean is that I get mp3s and whatnot, from other sources, not usenet.

I will admit though, that it aint perfect, but then again, nothing is...
except for Harry of course. :-?
I don't bother with multi-part binaries. I don't see the point. I
download MP4s from Russia (with Love), and any movies I might want are
available from various sites in *.RAR file format. Same with MP3's.

Right - I'm going to give a Russian mob a valid credit card number.

Not to mention that these are non-royalty paying sites and are
essentially pirating the music and movies.

Which I would think should be a problem for you being a professional
writer and such.

The problem with usenet music binaries is that you never really know
what the hell you are getting, quality-wise.

The better groups all use the higher compression. The stuff I
download is mostly experimental/trance/ambient stuff that has never
seen a recording studio.

Most of it is junk - some of it is quite good.


Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:48:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Okay. One of the sites I visit has acres of "trance" music. What the
hell is it?

You wouldn't like it.

Don't bother.