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New line of East Coast boats....
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http://nordicstar.net/index.html Press release: Nordic Star Yachts (www.nordicstarusa.com) The Nordic Star Yacht series is the first fusion of the ultimate in luxury and affordable price. The Norwegian-designed Nordic Star yachts are elegant, easy to operate and of lasting value, perfect for weekend cruising. The models in the series are single-engine motor yachts, between 9.7 and 10.2 meters in length, seating 8 comfortably and with choice of layouts from the sleek lines of the open design 'Sportsman', to the stylish 'Runabout' and 'Cruiser' and the functional design of the 'Hardtop' which offer comfortable two-berth overnight accommodation. The Nordic Star Series carries a blend of what is traditional Scandinavian, with lines from other classic boats designed in the United States in the late 1920s and 30s, and truly modern design ideas from Continental Europe. But more than just beautiful lines, The Nordic Star Series is about fun and friendship. They are small enough to be a joy to handle, yet large enough to accommodate day and weekend cruising with family and friends, or entertaining business associates on a summer evening. The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Starting at $250,000, visit www.nordicstarusa.com or call (978) 210-7550 for further information. |
New line of East Coast boats....
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html Press release: Nordic Star Yachts (www.nordicstarusa.com) snip... Is it just me...or do they seem expensive for 'made in China' open type boats. |
New line of East Coast boats....
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:56:33 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. Amen -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...2727&sliceId=1 |
New line of East Coast boats....
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... On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...2727&sliceId=1 Cool, but then what happens when I go to a site where I want to see the pictures, and they're only available via the flash travesty? |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Dec 18, 3:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...Id=tn_12727&sl... Cool, but then what happens when I go to a site where I want to see the pictures, and they're only available via the flash travesty?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - push the red button |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Dec 18, 3:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...Id=tn_12727&sl... Cool, but then what happens when I go to a site where I want to see the pictures, and they're only available via the flash travesty?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So.... now you want you use flash....... go figure.... |
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... On Dec 18, 3:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...Id=tn_12727&sl... Cool, but then what happens when I go to a site where I want to see the pictures, and they're only available via the flash travesty?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So.... now you want you use flash....... go figure.... I never said that. If you disagree, quote the text. I said I want to view pictures without flash. Before that, I said the site design was defective. |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Dec 18, 11:01�am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. �The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. �The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. �At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. �That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. I would categorize these boats more as "day boats", based on their open design and a paucity of amenities. I think the lines are generally pleasing, but I have no basis upon which to evaluate the build quality. I agree with Don White about the apparent value (you can get a brand new 31 foot Albermarle sport fisher for around $300k). $250,000 and up seems like a lot for one of these, but that's simply at first glance and there may be more content or quality than can be detected from photos on the web site. If they are bulding these boats in Europe, the current unfavorable exchange rate between the US dollar and the EURO is going to make these boats seem rather costly. Definitely an East Coast design; even the finest "picnic" and "lobster" boats have a tough time getting a foothold in a market where we boat year 'round- more often than not in cool, wet weather. |
New line of East Coast boats....
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 11:01?am, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. ?The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. ?The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. ?At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. ?That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. I would categorize these boats more as "day boats", based on their open design and a paucity of amenities. I think the lines are generally pleasing, but I have no basis upon which to evaluate the build quality. I agree with Don White about the apparent value (you can get a brand new 31 foot Albermarle sport fisher for around $300k). $250,000 and up seems like a lot for one of these, but that's simply at first glance and there may be more content or quality than can be detected from photos on the web site. If they are bulding these boats in Europe, the current unfavorable exchange rate between the US dollar and the EURO is going to make these boats seem rather costly. Definitely an East Coast design; even the finest "picnic" and "lobster" boats have a tough time getting a foothold in a market where we boat year 'round- more often than not in cool, wet weather. The one with the swept in side reminds me of a 1956-59 design. |
New line of East Coast boats....
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New line of East Coast boats....
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:54:58 GMT, Thurston Howell III ask
penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:51:29 -0500, "Thurston Howell III" ask wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 11:01?am, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. ?The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. ?The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. ?At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. ?That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. I would categorize these boats more as "day boats", based on their open design and a paucity of amenities. ====================================== Indeed. Indeed. It is bad form to reply to yourself...... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:57:20 -0500, "Thurston Howell III" ask
wrote: Thurston Howell III ask wrote in message .. . On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:51:29 -0500, "Thurston Howell III" ask wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 11:01?am, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. ?The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. ?The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. ?At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. ?That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. I would categorize these boats more as "day boats", based on their open design and a paucity of amenities. ====================================== Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. Indeed. |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:01:31 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:54:58 GMT, Thurston Howell III ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:51:29 -0500, "Thurston Howell III" ask wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 11:01?am, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. ?The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. ?The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. ?At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. ?That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. I would categorize these boats more as "day boats", based on their open design and a paucity of amenities. ====================================== Indeed. Indeed. It is bad form to reply to yourself...... Indeed. |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:01:31 -0500, Gene Kearns penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:54:58 GMT, Thurston Howell III ask penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:51:29 -0500, "Thurston Howell III" ask wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 11:01?am, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:05:17 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: The models are designed for coastal waters, fjords, lakes and inland waters and can reach up to 30 plus knots, with range up to 180 nautical miles. ?The styling is to "yacht standards" with extensive use of teak in both the interior and exterior fit out. ?The Nordic Star yachts are offered with a Yanmar engine driving a conventional shaft and propeller. Nice looking boats but fuel tankage and range are decidely on the short side for a boat of that type. ?At 20 kt cruise it will burn about 12 gph and require a fill up every 6 or 7 hours. ?That's marginal for a day boat let alone a cruiser. I would categorize these boats more as "day boats", based on their open design and a paucity of amenities. ====================================== Indeed. Indeed. It is bad form to reply to yourself...... to yourself...... -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:09:38 GMT, "Thurston Howell III ask
" wrote: Indeed. plonk |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:54:59 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:09:38 GMT, "Thurston Howell III ask " wrote: Indeed. plonk Indeed. |
New line of East Coast boats....
On Dec 18, 5:09 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 3:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...Id=tn_12727&sl... Cool, but then what happens when I go to a site where I want to see the pictures, and they're only available via the flash travesty?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So.... now you want you use flash....... go figure.... I never said that. If you disagree, quote the text. I said I want to view pictures without flash. Before that, I said the site design was defective.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The site design is defective because they can't judge when you are viewing it as opposed to someone who likes Flash? Now, I agree that IN MY OPINION there are better ways to approach ME than use Flash, but some people love the stuff! |
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... On Dec 18, 5:09 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 3:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 12:56 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... Link: http://nordicstar.net/index.html If you happen to speak to someone from that company, tell them to lose the Flash nonsense. It's annoying and slow. When I want to browse products, I want to see them as quickly as if I turned a magazine page. They're using Flash to switch from one picture to another, which can be done faster in other ways. Silly. Turn off the Flash player, Active X http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/view...Id=tn_12727&sl... Cool, but then what happens when I go to a site where I want to see the pictures, and they're only available via the flash travesty?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So.... now you want you use flash....... go figure.... I never said that. If you disagree, quote the text. I said I want to view pictures without flash. Before that, I said the site design was defective.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The site design is defective because they can't judge when you are viewing it as opposed to someone who likes Flash? Now, I agree that IN MY OPINION there are better ways to approach ME than use Flash, but some people love the stuff! Many TV & radio stations claim to know that their audiences love loud screamer commercials, while surveys show otherwise. The same fools who sell & create those commercials have now infested the web design industry. Their "practices", if you can even use that term, fly in the face of what old hands in the ad biz know is effective. The rules have not changed at all. What's changed is how they're implemented in this new medium. To some extent, it's guesswork because some customers respond better to video, while others prefer brochures or magazines. How is an advertiser to know? By asking, of course, or by offering a choice. Unfortunately, this small step is very rarely seen. Barilla did an excellent survey earlier this year, in an effort to learn more about its customers and where to place their advertising. Meanwhile, web designers do their jobs using their penises and their egos, instead of their brains. Tell me how long it takes before you see any useful content at this web site: www.highfidelityrochester.com On my DSL connection, it takes at least a minute. Surveys consistently indicate that you've got about 10 seconds to deliver information to the user, or they're out the door, so to speak. I've conversed about the site with the president of the web design company. He thinks it's just fine, but also blames his customer for the travesty. Fine, but a travesty? This is analogous to radio ad sales people who know a customer's commercial sucks, but claim they can't really advise the customer about how to do better. When I want to shop for a product, I want a brochure, not a demo of how many tools a "designer" felt like using on a given day. When I'm ready to turn a page, so to speak, I want it instantly. |
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