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D.Duck December 13th 07 04:58 PM

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On Dec 13, 9:03 am, "D.Duck" wrote:
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On Dec 13, 8:42 am, "Jim" me @nothere.net wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY


I was in the marching band at high school. We actually had to march
AND play an instrument at the same time.


AND play at the same time. That's different.


Well, I'd think it'd take a lot more talent to do both at the same
time as opposed to just marching. We did both at the same time, and
didn't have to practice until our hands were tore up! Goes to show you
what type of people get picked for that service!


You ought to check out the USMC marching band from Headquarters, Washington.
There's a marching band. And, they play while they are marching.



John H. December 13th 07 09:28 PM

For Jim H
 
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY


The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.


You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H

HK December 13th 07 09:38 PM

For Jim H
 
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY
The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H



Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.




Is your son planning to make a career out of being an operating engineer
after his time in the marines comes to an end?

John H. December 14th 07 01:51 AM

For Jim H
 
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:34:35 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY

The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.


You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H



Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


Here is the incentive package possible as of July, 2007:
************************************************** ********************************
ENLISTMENT BONUS ACTIVE DUTY ENLISTMENT BONUS

Qualified Active Duty recruits may be eligible for a combination of bonuses
up to $40,000.
ARMY RESERVE ENLISTMENT BONUSES

Qualified Army Reserve recruits may be eligible for a combination of
bonuses up to $20,000.
EDUCATION BONUSES

Active Duty and Army Reserve applicants may be rewarded for their civilian
educational experience.
ACTIVE DUTY EDUCATION BONUSES

Qualified applicants who enlist for two or more years in any Army Military
Occupational Specialty may receive one of the following bonuses for
civilian education:

* Bachelor's degree—$6,000
* Associate or two-year degree—$5,000
* High school graduates with 60 or more college semester hours—$4,000
* High school graduates with 30 to 59 college semester hours—$2,000
************************************************** ************************************

Yeah, you're probably right about the soldiers' appearance not quite up to
Marine standards. In the interest of group harmony, I won't go into any
comments soldiers may have about Marines.

Has our Marine noticed any photographers around?
--
John H

Tim December 14th 07 02:00 AM

For Jim H
 
On Dec 13, 3:34 pm, " JimH" ask wrote:


My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


maybe so, Jim.

But in the field you all look the same..


John H. December 14th 07 02:48 PM

For Jim H
 
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:13:15 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:34:35 -0500, " JimH" ask
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
om...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY

The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.


You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H


Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


Here is the incentive package possible as of July, 2007:
************************************************** ********************************
ENLISTMENT BONUS ACTIVE DUTY ENLISTMENT BONUS

Qualified Active Duty recruits may be eligible for a combination of
bonuses
up to $40,000.
ARMY RESERVE ENLISTMENT BONUSES

Qualified Army Reserve recruits may be eligible for a combination of
bonuses up to $20,000.
EDUCATION BONUSES

Active Duty and Army Reserve applicants may be rewarded for their civilian
educational experience.
ACTIVE DUTY EDUCATION BONUSES

Qualified applicants who enlist for two or more years in any Army Military
Occupational Specialty may receive one of the following bonuses for
civilian education:

* Bachelor's degree-$6,000
* Associate or two-year degree-$5,000
* High school graduates with 60 or more college semester hours-$4,000
* High school graduates with 30 to 59 college semester hours-$2,000
************************************************** ************************************

Yeah, you're probably right about the soldiers' appearance not quite up to
Marine standards. In the interest of group harmony, I won't go into any
comments soldiers may have about Marines.

Has our Marine noticed any photographers around?
--
John H


How is your daughters health John?


Which one?
--
John H

BAR December 15th 07 02:52 AM

For Jim H
 
JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY
The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H



Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


My cousin an Army Major, who is over in Iraq right now, isn't impressed
with the USMC.

All brothers in arms.

BAR December 15th 07 02:54 AM

For Jim H
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:34:35 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY
The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H


Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


Here is the incentive package possible as of July, 2007:
************************************************** ********************************
ENLISTMENT BONUS ACTIVE DUTY ENLISTMENT BONUS

Qualified Active Duty recruits may be eligible for a combination of bonuses
up to $40,000.
ARMY RESERVE ENLISTMENT BONUSES

Qualified Army Reserve recruits may be eligible for a combination of
bonuses up to $20,000.
EDUCATION BONUSES

Active Duty and Army Reserve applicants may be rewarded for their civilian
educational experience.
ACTIVE DUTY EDUCATION BONUSES

Qualified applicants who enlist for two or more years in any Army Military
Occupational Specialty may receive one of the following bonuses for
civilian education:

* Bachelor's degree—$6,000
* Associate or two-year degree—$5,000
* High school graduates with 60 or more college semester hours—$4,000
* High school graduates with 30 to 59 college semester hours—$2,000
************************************************** ************************************

Yeah, you're probably right about the soldiers' appearance not quite up to
Marine standards. In the interest of group harmony, I won't go into any
comments soldiers may have about Marines.

Has our Marine noticed any photographers around?


The re-enlistment bonuses for the technical fields in the USMC were
those amounts 25 years ago. The Army is getting off cheap.


John H. December 15th 07 09:38 AM

For Jim H
 
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:52:36 -0500, BAR wrote:

JimH wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY
The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H



Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


My cousin an Army Major, who is over in Iraq right now, isn't impressed
with the USMC.

All brothers in arms.


I lived for a year with a Marine in Korea....
--
John H

John H. December 15th 07 10:01 AM

For Jim H
 
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:54:21 -0500, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:34:35 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:57:37 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Jim" me @nothere.net wrote in message
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90UPLLo6nY
The USMC silent drill team is by far the finest precision marching group
I've ever had the pleasure of watching.

You've not seen the Army's? They also do a fine job.
--
John H

Do they offer them a $25k incentive to join like the Army will be doing
starting in January with their recruits?

My son made a comment of how sloppy US Army personnel look compared to the
Marines. He noticed this on Parris Island and now at Camp Leonard Wood.


Here is the incentive package possible as of July, 2007:
************************************************** ********************************
ENLISTMENT BONUS ACTIVE DUTY ENLISTMENT BONUS

Qualified Active Duty recruits may be eligible for a combination of bonuses
up to $40,000.
ARMY RESERVE ENLISTMENT BONUSES

Qualified Army Reserve recruits may be eligible for a combination of
bonuses up to $20,000.
EDUCATION BONUSES

Active Duty and Army Reserve applicants may be rewarded for their civilian
educational experience.
ACTIVE DUTY EDUCATION BONUSES

Qualified applicants who enlist for two or more years in any Army Military
Occupational Specialty may receive one of the following bonuses for
civilian education:

* Bachelor's degree—$6,000
* Associate or two-year degree—$5,000
* High school graduates with 60 or more college semester hours—$4,000
* High school graduates with 30 to 59 college semester hours—$2,000
************************************************** ************************************

Yeah, you're probably right about the soldiers' appearance not quite up to
Marine standards. In the interest of group harmony, I won't go into any
comments soldiers may have about Marines.

Has our Marine noticed any photographers around?


The re-enlistment bonuses for the technical fields in the USMC were
those amounts 25 years ago. The Army is getting off cheap.


The above doesn't address 're-enlistment', only enlistment. Selective
Reenlistment Bonuses can add up to a lot of dollars. The 'multiplier' for a
97E (Human Intelligence Collector), with the appropriate language skills,
is 5. That means if he re-ups for six years, his bonus would be:

#years x monthly base pay x multiplier = bonus

For a sergeant E-5 with six years, the base pay is $2323.80/month. If he
reups for six years, the SRB would be:

6 x 2323.80 x 5 = $69714

But, it gets capped at $40000. Which still isn't too shabby.

The Marines use the same basic idea, although the specialties in highest
demand may differ between the services. Sadly, Engineer Equipment
Operators, MOS 1345, are not in high demand right now, and therefore have
*no* SRB multiplier.

The lack of any SRB multiplier would indicate that the MOS is having no
problems meeting the personnel authorizations and may even be overstrength.
This will also reduce the promotion potential in the MOS.
--
John H


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