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[email protected] December 8th 07 05:47 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
On Dec 8, 10:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.


I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.


FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/


I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H


John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.


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Tell us again how great the sound is from copper wired connections as
opposed to digital. My fiber optics cable never ever goes out, any
decent ice storm and the phones are out for days at a time.

HK December 8th 07 05:50 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
wrote:
On Dec 8, 10:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.
I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.
FWIW
http://www.comparevoipservice.org/
I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H
John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.

Y-A-W-N.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Tell us again how great the sound is from copper wired connections as
opposed to digital. My fiber optics cable never ever goes out, any
decent ice storm and the phones are out for days at a time.



I told you once before I have no interest in engaging in one of your
silly, never-ending, mindless discussions. Find other playmates.

Larry December 8th 07 06:09 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
John H. wrote in
:

My friend in Holland is wanting my to try Skype. I've not done

so yet,
because with the digital from Cox, calling Holland is very

cheap. It was
much cheaper with VOIP. I know nothing about it.
--
John H



Just download free and install. You can call your friend's Skype
for FREE....about as cheap as you can get....ZERO...NADA...FREE.

Talk as long as you like. You are connected DIRECTLY to him, not
through a money machine server of some VOIP company. That's why
it's free....as it should be.

You may also, even while talking to him, see each other on your
webcams, swap any files directly, use the chat window to share
URLs and other not-so-easy-to-convey-in-voice things like
URLs....again, all free as you are connected directly to him.

Who pays for all this, you might ask. YOU DO! If you open a
port sniffer like TCPView, you'll see other Skypers connected to
you, just like you'll see you connected to others using their
system to relay your Dutch friend's data to you. This is NOT how
the phone call is routed...this is how your contact list, which
is stored on Skype's server, eliminating you entering it in every
Skype device, is stored. When you open any Skype device, your
contact list comes down from the other Skyper's supernode Skype
connects to, to you. A distributed system, not some VoIP company
depending on servers in one or a few places, Skype self-heals
when the guy you're connected to shuts down his computer or his
Skype. It uses almost no bandwidth and costs you nothing in
speed or time. It's just a few control codes and encrypted text.
The other guy cannot see your contact list, even with his packet
sniffer. Skype is encoded with 256-bit encryption and would take
a supercomputer a LONG time to decrypt, making it quite
secure....more secure than your government-controlled VoIP
company like Vonage, etc. Skype is in Luxembourgh, even though
it is run by Englishmen. Luxembourgh imposes no taxes on
it....unlike the UK taxed to death. You pay no taxes to anyone
to use Skype, even the bureaucrats in the USA or Canada. The
distributed system would be a helluva nightmare to trace through
the millions of Skype users online, 8,674,812 at 1:05PM on
Saturday as I type this. Skype tells you how many are online at
the bottom to choose from. Call any of them you can find. They
don't normally bite and can be very friendly. To find out, just
go from ONLINE to SKYPE ME status and the whole Skype world can
find you. Great fun if you're bored.....(c;

You have nothing to lose....just do it!

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

John H. December 8th 07 06:19 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:44:04 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIW
http://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.



The broadband carriers, particularly cable will have to show me a lot
more reliability before I cut my "always works" phone line.
After any decent storm, named or not, my cable is always out a few
days and "data" was out for over a week. In 25 years I have never lost
my phone.


I've had very good luck with Cox here in Alexandria, VA. After the first
year's growing pains, the service has been very free of outages of any
kind. In the 12 years we've been in this house, we've never lost
electricity for more than a few hours either. So, we've been quite lucky.
--
John H

[email protected] December 8th 07 06:44 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
On Dec 8, 12:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 8, 10:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.
I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.
FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/
I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H
John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.
Y-A-W-N.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Tell us again how great the sound is from copper wired connections as
opposed to digital. My fiber optics cable never ever goes out, any
decent ice storm and the phones are out for days at a time.


I told you once before I have no interest in engaging in one of your
silly, never-ending, mindless discussions. Find other playmates.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

Jim December 8th 07 06:45 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
What is your skype name?

HK December 8th 07 06:52 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
Jim wrote:
What is your skype name?



Skippy. Or is it JIF?

Jim December 8th 07 07:10 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Jim wrote:
What is your skype name?



Skippy. Or is it JIF?

Peter Pan


Larry December 8th 07 11:17 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
"Jim" wrote in news:01a63171$0$11583$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

What is your skype name?


Is that your email addy? I'd email it, but posting it here to be
scrammed 24/7 with hate calls would be stupid.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

HK December 8th 07 11:19 PM

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 
Larry wrote:
"Jim" wrote in news:01a63171$0$11583$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

What is your skype name?


Is that your email addy? I'd email it, but posting it here to be
scrammed 24/7 with hate calls would be stupid.

Larry



Come on, Larry, admit it...you get calls in your head whether you are
near a phone or not!

Merry Christmas, by the way.


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