Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIW http://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIW http://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.

What qualification do you have to say you can't tell any difference
between VOIP and a MaBell? Have your ears been certified?

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H

Not gonna' happen to my customers... no way, no how...

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John H. wrote in
:

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon,
but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my
neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
-

Ever tried Skype, John....in the last year?

Skype out is $30/YEAR for US and Canadians, including PR, HI and
AK. No time limit, 24/7. Works great. Incoming calls are
$60/YEAR/phone number. You can buy up to 9 numbers in many
countries. I have a local number in Charleston, SC, USA and
another in London, UK, for my English friends to call. I can
even network them together through Skype. Skype-to-Skype calls
are always free, as is the software. Don't like computers? No
problem, just buy a Skype Phone. I use a Netgear SPH101 on my
wifi at home. Works within about 1/4 mile of the outside hotspot
50' up. Portable, I'm now using a Nokia N800 internet tablet,
which allows me to use Skype on the road either through my Alltel
Sellphone data link or any wifi hotspot. They can't block Skype
because it's hard to detect its encrypted data stream and it uses
any port you like, not something assigned.

Makes a great home phone...especially Skype-to-Skype with video.
You don't have to pay for overpriced, non-encrypted, voip
service. Skype's distributed system works great and sounds as
good as the equipment you buy. You must have broadband. You can
also text, send/receive any files, send SMS messages, forward
your Skype to any landline number. Mine forwards to my Sellphone
if I'm not home or the computer is busy and I don't boot Skype.

Nothing beats it.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H

John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H

John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.


Y-A-W-N.

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wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIW http://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.


The broadband carriers, particularly cable will have to show me a lot
more reliability before I cut my "always works" phone line.
After any decent storm, named or not, my cable is always out a few
days and "data" was out for over a week. In 25 years I have never lost
my phone.


Ditto. Maybe "Cable" is more reliable for city dwellers.

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:32:08 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIW http://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.

What qualification do you have to say you can't tell any difference
between VOIP and a MaBell? Have your ears been certified?

I'll have you know that my ears have been highly calibrated by none other
than the Veterans Administration! This has been certified by same.
--
John H

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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:20:29 +0000, Larry wrote:

John H. wrote in
:

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon,
but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my
neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
-

Ever tried Skype, John....in the last year?

Skype out is $30/YEAR for US and Canadians, including PR, HI and
AK. No time limit, 24/7. Works great. Incoming calls are
$60/YEAR/phone number. You can buy up to 9 numbers in many
countries. I have a local number in Charleston, SC, USA and
another in London, UK, for my English friends to call. I can
even network them together through Skype. Skype-to-Skype calls
are always free, as is the software. Don't like computers? No
problem, just buy a Skype Phone. I use a Netgear SPH101 on my
wifi at home. Works within about 1/4 mile of the outside hotspot
50' up. Portable, I'm now using a Nokia N800 internet tablet,
which allows me to use Skype on the road either through my Alltel
Sellphone data link or any wifi hotspot. They can't block Skype
because it's hard to detect its encrypted data stream and it uses
any port you like, not something assigned.

Makes a great home phone...especially Skype-to-Skype with video.
You don't have to pay for overpriced, non-encrypted, voip
service. Skype's distributed system works great and sounds as
good as the equipment you buy. You must have broadband. You can
also text, send/receive any files, send SMS messages, forward
your Skype to any landline number. Mine forwards to my Sellphone
if I'm not home or the computer is busy and I don't boot Skype.

Nothing beats it.

Larry

My friend in Holland is wanting my to try Skype. I've not done so yet,
because with the digital from Cox, calling Holland is very cheap. It was
much cheaper with VOIP. I know nothing about it.
--
John H

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

On Dec 8, 10:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H

John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.

Y-A-W-N.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tell us again how great the sound is from copper wired connections as
opposed to digital. My fiber optics cable never ever goes out, any
decent ice storm and the phones are out for days at a time.

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

wrote:
On Dec 8, 10:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.
I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.
FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/
I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H
John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.
Y-A-W-N.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tell us again how great the sound is from copper wired connections as
opposed to digital. My fiber optics cable never ever goes out, any
decent ice storm and the phones are out for days at a time.


I told you once before I have no interest in engaging in one of your
silly, never-ending, mindless discussions. Find other playmates.

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

John H. wrote in
:

My friend in Holland is wanting my to try Skype. I've not done
so yet,
because with the digital from Cox, calling Holland is very
cheap. It was
much cheaper with VOIP. I know nothing about it.
--
John H



Just download free and install. You can call your friend's Skype
for FREE....about as cheap as you can get....ZERO...NADA...FREE.

Talk as long as you like. You are connected DIRECTLY to him, not
through a money machine server of some VOIP company. That's why
it's free....as it should be.

You may also, even while talking to him, see each other on your
webcams, swap any files directly, use the chat window to share
URLs and other not-so-easy-to-convey-in-voice things like
URLs....again, all free as you are connected directly to him.

Who pays for all this, you might ask. YOU DO! If you open a
port sniffer like TCPView, you'll see other Skypers connected to
you, just like you'll see you connected to others using their
system to relay your Dutch friend's data to you. This is NOT how
the phone call is routed...this is how your contact list, which
is stored on Skype's server, eliminating you entering it in every
Skype device, is stored. When you open any Skype device, your
contact list comes down from the other Skyper's supernode Skype
connects to, to you. A distributed system, not some VoIP company
depending on servers in one or a few places, Skype self-heals
when the guy you're connected to shuts down his computer or his
Skype. It uses almost no bandwidth and costs you nothing in
speed or time. It's just a few control codes and encrypted text.
The other guy cannot see your contact list, even with his packet
sniffer. Skype is encoded with 256-bit encryption and would take
a supercomputer a LONG time to decrypt, making it quite
secure....more secure than your government-controlled VoIP
company like Vonage, etc. Skype is in Luxembourgh, even though
it is run by Englishmen. Luxembourgh imposes no taxes on
it....unlike the UK taxed to death. You pay no taxes to anyone
to use Skype, even the bureaucrats in the USA or Canada. The
distributed system would be a helluva nightmare to trace through
the millions of Skype users online, 8,674,812 at 1:05PM on
Saturday as I type this. Skype tells you how many are online at
the bottom to choose from. Call any of them you can find. They
don't normally bite and can be very friendly. To find out, just
go from ONLINE to SKYPE ME status and the whole Skype world can
find you. Great fun if you're bored.....(c;

You have nothing to lose....just do it!

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:44:04 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:28:22 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.

I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.

FWIW http://www.comparevoipservice.org/

I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.


The broadband carriers, particularly cable will have to show me a lot
more reliability before I cut my "always works" phone line.
After any decent storm, named or not, my cable is always out a few
days and "data" was out for over a week. In 25 years I have never lost
my phone.

I've had very good luck with Cox here in Alexandria, VA. After the first
year's growing pains, the service has been very free of outages of any
kind. In the 12 years we've been in this house, we've never lost
electricity for more than a few hours either. So, we've been quite lucky.
--
John H

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On Dec 8, 12:50 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 8, 10:36 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 7, 9:28 pm, John H. wrote:
Here's a site that allows some comparison of different plans and provides
some brief reviews of same.
I had SunRocket, which went under. My neighbor transferred to VOIP.com and
is very happy with it. I can't tell he is using VOIP when he calls.
FWIWhttp://www.comparevoipservice.org/
I'm happy with Cox digital, at about half the cost of Verizon, but may go
back to VOIP in a couple months. Will wait to see what my neighbor thinks
in a month or two.
--
John H
John, Harry says that even though I've had both hardwire and VOIP that
I'm not able to state for a fact that my VOIP connection is clearer
than my hardwired one ever was. He's never had VOIP, but somehow he IS
able to state without a doubt that hardwired copper with old
connections, 1930's technology is better. You should discuss this with
him, apparently he's the expert.
Y-A-W-N.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tell us again how great the sound is from copper wired connections as
opposed to digital. My fiber optics cable never ever goes out, any
decent ice storm and the phones are out for days at a time.

I told you once before I have no interest in engaging in one of your
silly, never-ending, mindless discussions. Find other playmates.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

What is your skype name?

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

Jim wrote:
What is your skype name?


Skippy. Or is it JIF?

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Jim wrote:
What is your skype name?


Skippy. Or is it JIF?
Peter Pan

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"Jim" wrote in news:01a63171$0$11583$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

What is your skype name?


Is that your email addy? I'd email it, but posting it here to be
scrammed 24/7 with hate calls would be stupid.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

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Larry wrote:
"Jim" wrote in news:01a63171$0$11583$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

What is your skype name?


Is that your email addy? I'd email it, but posting it here to be
scrammed 24/7 with hate calls would be stupid.

Larry


Come on, Larry, admit it...you get calls in your head whether you are
near a phone or not!

Merry Christmas, by the way.

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wrote in message
...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel like
answering"- Loogpicker

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BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel like
answering"- Loogpicker






What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person. Fortunately,
Tom doesn't know, either.

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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:26:43 -0500, HK wrote:

BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel like
answering"- Loogpicker

What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person. Fortunately,
Tom doesn't know, either.

Harry is my brother from another mother.

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Jim" wrote in news:01a63171$0$11583$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

What is your skype name?


Is that your email addy? I'd email it, but posting it here to be
scrammed 24/7 with hate calls would be stupid.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

its jiminfl @ g m a i l . com
Leave out the spaces, obviously

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel like
answering"- Loogpicker






What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person. Fortunately,
Tom doesn't know, either.

Hey Mon! You been brethin Kanter's second hand smoke again?

Jumping on the VOIP bandwagon?
 

Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...


As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel
like answering"- Loogpicker






What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person.
Fortunately, Tom doesn't know, either.

Hey Mon! You been brethin Kanter's second hand smoke again?


No. I never inhale.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel
like answering"- Loogpicker






What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person. Fortunately,
Tom doesn't know, either.

Hey Mon! You been brethin Kanter's second hand smoke again?


No. I never inhale.

How do you do that?


--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:00:35 -0500, "Jim" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel
like answering"- Loogpicker

What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person. Fortunately,
Tom doesn't know, either.

Hey Mon! You been brethin Kanter's second hand smoke again?

No. I never inhale.

How do you do that?

Osmosis.

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Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
BillP wrote:
wrote in message
...


As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have
it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I
feel like answering"- Loogpicker






What he doesn't know is that Tom and I are the same person.
Fortunately, Tom doesn't know, either.

Hey Mon! You been brethin Kanter's second hand smoke again?


No. I never inhale.

How do you do that?


Gills.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Larry wrote:
"Jim" wrote in news:01a63171$0$11583$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

What is your skype name?


Is that your email addy? I'd email it, but posting it here to be
scrammed 24/7 with hate calls would be stupid.

Larry


Come on, Larry, admit it...you get calls in your head whether you are near
a phone or not!

Merry Christmas, by the way.

And Merry Christmas to you, Harold. Speaking of calls in your head: Yale /
M.D. / Lobster boat.

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"Jim" wrote in news:475b2c7b$0$25422$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

Leave out the spaces, obviously



Check your email.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

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On Dec 8, 6:22 pm, "BillP" wrote:
wrote in message

...

As suspected.......
Harry, why do you consistently start with the mean spirited, petty
insults when someone engages you in a conversation that you really
don't know about? You and Tom are alot alike, if you don't have it, or
don't want it, then you can find nothing good in it.

"Let me make myself perfectly clear. I'll answer what to **** I feel like
answering"- Loogpicker

Are you trying (and failing miserably) to make a point?