Vic Smith wrote:
"

I vaguely remember a recent incident revolving around a sex act.
No way I could count the times I heard his opponents say:
"The President is the chief law enforcement officer of the land."
Just a vague memory.

--Vic

Vic,
I know the way a thread will develop many tangents, but SWS's original
question was a rhetorical question about someone's ability to pick and
chose the laws they want to obey. He really wasn't trying to provide
justification for anyone disobeying the law. I don't believe a sex act
is illegal though, and i don't believe anyone was ever accused any
president of breaking the law. My memory was the problem had to do with
perjury in a civil suit and before a grand jury.
Eeither way, that horse has been beat so hard and so often in this NG it
is nothing more than a smear on the forum floor.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:45:19 -0500, HK wrote:


A. Other than paying taxes on income and not breaking the law, there are
no other obligations of an ordinary citizen.

Yes there are - the fact that you refuse to adhere to them is not
relevant.
B. The oath of citizenship is not taken by native-borns.

It is implied as a condition of citizenship. If it were not implied
for native borns, then it would not be required of non-citizens who
wish to become citizens.

Look up the case law.

C. The POTUS takes an oath. Whatever his moral compulsion, he cannot
legally take steps that interfere with his oath.

And you are the ultimate rationalizer. I have said before and I'll
say it again - you have a remarkable ability to rationalize anything
as long as it suits your individual view point.

In some ways, that is admirable.

I am finished here.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:41:46 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...



When I engaged in civil disobedience and broke certain laws, I anticipated
I would be arrested and subject to certain penalties for trying to end
segregation and suchlike. When Bush breaks the laws he doesn't like, he
knows that his Justice Department and his Supreme Court will for the most
part rubberstamp what he does, and give him a hall pass.

How's that for morality?


This whole discussion just became a waste of time.

Let's drop it.

Not yet. I remember at the time not having much sympathy for PATCO,
because it was partly a stickup for money, and they could have played
it smarter with Ronnie, a known anti-union wacko.
At the time I had been laid off from my first IT job. 1982.
We had the highest unemployment since the Great Depression.
In 1983, after working some time as a helper for plumber, I went to
work running packaging machines, because the plumbing work was spotty
after I demurred from toking up with my boss.
I had formerly been a packaging machine mechanic. Started the new
operator job at 5.50 an hour, about what I had been making 15 years
prior. To the point. I daily ate lunch with a QC inspector making
the same as me - 5.50 - who had 10 years experience as an ATC before
Ronnie fired him. He had 3 kids and was about to lose his house.
He had stuck with his union leadership, as many did.
He still had some hope to get his ATC job back, but when I left to go
back into IT he was still there.
Ronnie never would let any of these guys be rehired, baldly showing a
mean streak and a disconnect from the "common man."
At the same time him and Nancy were attending ostentatiously lavish
balls.
Although I never hated Ronnie, I don't have much affection for him
either. Nowadays, I really miss Dick Nixon.

--Vic

HK wrote:


Sorry, dickbreath, there's no one in here I wish to impress.

Ha ha ha.


I remember
details that to me are important enough to remember. I remember the
first political campaign on which I worked when I was 16 years old, I
remember the candidate, I remember the downtown office in which we made
phone calls, and I remember going to a victory picnic. I also remember
the name of every grade school, junior high, and high school teacher I
had, and that it was Mrs. Dickstein in the third grade who taught us
simple French, and it was Mrs. Olson in the fifth grade who got me
hooked on Latin. On the other hand, it was Ms. McGough in the 8th grade
who told me I could become a writer.

Hell, if I had *half* the accomplishments you claim to have, I wouldn't
be wasting my time in a newsgroup where most of the participants are,
according to you, idiots. After all, there's what here, two "responsible
conservatives"? Good thing there's plenty of lap dogs here who look
adoringly into your eyes and suck up the stories.

snicker


There's no one in here I even know, and probably no more than a half
dozen I'd enjoy meeting. You aren't on the list.

Yea, we all remember what happens when you have to meet up face to face
with someone. ((Peggy Hall))


What have you ever done professionally, Reggie? How long were you
employed as a fluffer?

You're a fraud.

-- Charlie

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:18 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

confabulation

Ok, I'll admit it - I had to look that one up.

That is the WOD.

You should send it to someone...

http://tinyurl.com/ywosrt
--
John H

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:54:06 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:18 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

confabulation
Ok, I'll admit it - I had to look that one up.
That is the WOD.

You should send it to someone...

http://tinyurl.com/ywosrt

yes, but he would just cut me off and then go onto another diatribe.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:17:18 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...



Ice on the driveway? How can you live like that? ;) Cold here last
night. Was 45 when driving home from mom's at 10 pm.



Tell me about it. Rather, tell Mrs.E. about it. When winter sets in our
driveway becomes a sheet of ice and it's a long, long driveway. I am sick
and tired of spreading 20 bucks worth of de-icer every time it snows or
rains and then freezes like it's done for the past few days. Our house is
up on a hill and nobody can make it up the driveway unless your's truly goes
out and cracks the ice with de-icer, then pushes it away with the tractor.

I am sick of it, I am telling you.

Eisboch


Put up a sign..."Icy driveway, use cell phone"
--
John H