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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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So, yes, if certain laws don't fit in with my philosophy, it is OK to
break them. In fact, one is morally compelled to break them.

In a nation founded on laws, I wish you had said "morally compelled to
change them".

Eisboch

This nation runs on greed, not law.

Sounds like Patco.



No, what it sounds like is this: you don't know what you are talking
about. One of the main purposes of a labor union is to obtain equity for
its members.

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HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

So, yes, if certain laws don't fit in with my philosophy, it is OK
to break them. In fact, one is morally compelled to break them.

In a nation founded on laws, I wish you had said "morally compelled
to change them".

Eisboch

This nation runs on greed, not law.

Sounds like Patco.


No, what it sounds like is this: you don't know what you are talking
about. One of the main purposes of a labor union is to obtain equity for
its members.

They definitely failed on that one. In fact, Patco handled it so poorly
that Patco had a negative effect on all labor unions. Talk about
screwing up big time.

If Patco wanted to get the public behind them, they should have
emphasized the need to update the infrastructure, increase public and
employee safety and also lastly provide a competitive workplace.

If Patco is not a case study for all unions, it should be. By any
chance, were you advising Patco how to handle their negotiations?

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On Dec 10, 2:12 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"HK" wrote in message
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This nation runs on greed, not law.

I see. I also see that it's worthless to continue this discussion.
I have to go outside and de-ice the driveway anyway.

Eisboch

Ice on the driveway? How can you live like that? ;) Cold here last
night. Was 45 when driving home from mom's at 10 pm.

45 degrees is too cold, also. When I was out there during
thanksgiving, it was down in the 30's a few of the nights.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

So, yes, if certain laws don't fit in with my philosophy, it is OK
to break them. In fact, one is morally compelled to break them.

In a nation founded on laws, I wish you had said "morally compelled
to change them".

Eisboch

This nation runs on greed, not law.

Sounds like Patco.


No, what it sounds like is this: you don't know what you are talking
about. One of the main purposes of a labor union is to obtain equity
for its members.

They definitely failed on that one. In fact, Patco handled it so poorly
that Patco had a negative effect on all labor unions. Talk about
screwing up big time.

If Patco wanted to get the public behind them, they should have
emphasized the need to update the infrastructure, increase public and
employee safety and also lastly provide a competitive workplace.

If Patco is not a case study for all unions, it should be. By any
chance, were you advising Patco how to handle their negotiations?




No, crap-for-brains. I was, however, involved in negotiating on behalf
of three unions the largest labor contact ever agreed to in the United
States and as a result of success in that area, my principal and I were
offered top jobs at a big federal agency by the incoming Reagan
Administration and then offered the same jobs again in 1984.
Independently, we both said no both times.

Of course, you've deliberately kept from this newsgroup what it is
you've been doing for a living all these years. From the quality of your
posts, I'm guess you paint the eyeballs on Mickey Mouse dolls for some
Chinese labor contractor. You don't seem to have the skills for much else.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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So, yes, if certain laws don't fit in with my philosophy, it is OK to
break them. In fact, one is morally compelled to break them.

In a nation founded on laws, I wish you had said "morally compelled to
change them".

Eisboch

This nation runs on greed, not law.

Sounds like Patco.

No, what it sounds like is this: you don't know what you are talking
about. One of the main purposes of a labor union is to obtain equity for
its members.

PATCO members already made more than the average salary.

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On Dec 10, 2:12 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"HK" wrote in message
...

This nation runs on greed, not law.

I see. I also see that it's worthless to continue this discussion.
I have to go outside and de-ice the driveway anyway.

Eisboch

Ice on the driveway? How can you live like that? ;) Cold here last
night. Was 45 when driving home from mom's at 10 pm.

45 degrees is too cold, also. When I was out there during
thanksgiving, it was down in the 30's a few of the nights.

Beats the crap out of snow and ice in the driveway. About 65 today.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

So, yes, if certain laws don't fit in with my philosophy, it is OK to
break them. In fact, one is morally compelled to break them.

In a nation founded on laws, I wish you had said "morally compelled to
change them".

Eisboch
This nation runs on greed, not law.
Sounds like Patco.
No, what it sounds like is this: you don't know what you are talking
about. One of the main purposes of a labor union is to obtain equity for
its members.

PATCO members already made more than the average salary.




You think "the average" salary is equity?

You don't know what equity is, either.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

So, yes, if certain laws don't fit in with my philosophy, it is
OK to break them. In fact, one is morally compelled to break them.

In a nation founded on laws, I wish you had said "morally
compelled to change them".

Eisboch

This nation runs on greed, not law.

Sounds like Patco.


No, what it sounds like is this: you don't know what you are talking
about. One of the main purposes of a labor union is to obtain equity
for its members.

They definitely failed on that one. In fact, Patco handled it so
poorly that Patco had a negative effect on all labor unions. Talk
about screwing up big time.

If Patco wanted to get the public behind them, they should have
emphasized the need to update the infrastructure, increase public and
employee safety and also lastly provide a competitive workplace.

If Patco is not a case study for all unions, it should be. By any
chance, were you advising Patco how to handle their negotiations?




No, crap-for-brains. I was, however, involved in negotiating on behalf
of three unions the largest labor contact ever agreed to in the United
States and as a result of success in that area, my principal and I were
offered top jobs at a big federal agency by the incoming Reagan
Administration and then offered the same jobs again in 1984.
Independently, we both said no both times.

Wow, that is very impressive. You should be very proud of your
accomplishments. I am most impressed that both you and your principal
independently said no, both times. That and the "largest labor contract
ever agreed to" are both very nice touchs.

With all of your college education, world travels and vast experience
have you ever heard of or reading anything about mythomania?


I try not to

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

No, crap-for-brains. I was, however, involved in negotiating on behalf
of three unions the largest labor contact ever agreed to in the United
States and as a result of success in that area, my principal and I
were offered top jobs at a big federal agency by the incoming Reagan
Administration and then offered the same jobs again in 1984.
Independently, we both said no both times.

Wow, that is very impressive. You should be very proud of your
accomplishments. I am most impressed that both you and your principal
independently said no, both times. That and the "largest labor contract
ever agreed to" are both very nice touchs.

With all of your college education, world travels and vast experience
have you ever heard of or reading anything about mythomania?


I try not to


You don't have to try, since it is obvious you've never done a damned
thing in your work life.

I was a consultant to two of the national postal unions for many years,
and a member of the unions' postal labor negotiating committee twice,
during two different contract negotiations, in the late 1970s and early
1980s. In those days for a few contracts, the three major postal unions
bargained together in committee fashion. The committees were very small
at the main sessions, where I participated, but the craft session
committees were much larger.

What have you ever done professionally, Reggie?
Oh, we know...it would be *too* revealing.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

No, crap-for-brains. I was, however, involved in negotiating on
behalf of three unions the largest labor contact ever agreed to in
the United States and as a result of success in that area, my
principal and I were offered top jobs at a big federal agency by the
incoming Reagan Administration and then offered the same jobs again
in 1984. Independently, we both said no both times.

Wow, that is very impressive. You should be very proud of your
accomplishments. I am most impressed that both you and your principal
independently said no, both times. That and the "largest labor
contract ever agreed to" are both very nice touchs.

With all of your college education, world travels and vast experience
have you ever heard of or reading anything about mythomania?


I try not to


You don't have to try, since it is obvious you've never done a damned
thing in your work life.

I was a consultant to two of the national postal unions for many years,
and a member of the unions' postal labor negotiating committee twice,
during two different contract negotiations, in the late 1970s and early
1980s. In those days for a few contracts, the three major postal unions
bargained together in committee fashion. The committees were very small
at the main sessions, where I participated, but the craft session
committees were much larger.

What have you ever done professionally, Reggie?
Oh, we know...it would be *too* revealing.

Harry,
Someone who had done some reading on mythomania, would tell you that
those who are prone to mythomania are inclined to embellishes his or her
stories with very elaborate detail, in a way that he or she believes
will impress people.