E-bay shoppers beware....
 

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html


Here, you would just sue Ebay.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Dec 3, 3:49 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, for one thing, they hijacked an individual's page. Then if you
read Ebay's disclaimers you'll see that they ask you to you OnGuard
Online to protect yourself. Then, it's been proven in courts from
other's trying to sue them that they are nothing more than a
"marketplace that links buyers and sellers". The fact is that the
buyer is responsible for their actions. They can choose not to deal
with a seller or not.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

How about the sellers account was hijacked because he fell for a phishing
scam. Or downloaded a virus that collected his ebay id and password. Ebay
will probably have logs that show that someone provided a good id and
password. It's not ebay's responsibility or capability to know that the
person using the id and password is really the correct person.

Our ebay account got hijacked. Ebay found it very quickly and disabled it.
I never figured out how it was hijacked because we're pretty good about
recognizing the phishing stuff. After I go it turned back on I got the $5
verisign token for it and paypal.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:27:29 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 3:49 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, for one thing, they hijacked an individual's page. Then if you
read Ebay's disclaimers you'll see that they ask you to you OnGuard
Online to protect yourself. Then, it's been proven in courts from
other's trying to sue them that they are nothing more than a
"marketplace that links buyers and sellers". The fact is that the
buyer is responsible for their actions. They can choose not to deal
with a seller or not.

Hmmm - good point.

Not sure I would agree with you, but it is a good point.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:32:27 -0500, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

How about the sellers account was hijacked because he fell for a phishing
scam. Or downloaded a virus that collected his ebay id and password. Ebay
will probably have logs that show that someone provided a good id and
password. It's not ebay's responsibility or capability to know that the
person using the id and password is really the correct person.

All good points.

Doesn't explain contacting email accounts though - I can't see how a
hacker would get around that unless you had the same email password as
your eBay account which doesn't seem likely.

Or maybe it is.

Our ebay account got hijacked. Ebay found it very quickly and disabled it.
I never figured out how it was hijacked because we're pretty good about
recognizing the phishing stuff. After I go it turned back on I got the $5
verisign token for it and paypal.

Well, at least that's a positive.

How did you find out about the hijacking?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 3, 3:49 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, for one thing, they hijacked an individual's page. Then if you
read Ebay's disclaimers you'll see that they ask you to you OnGuard
Online to protect yourself. Then, it's been proven in courts from
other's trying to sue them that they are nothing more than a
"marketplace that links buyers and sellers". The fact is that the
buyer is responsible for their actions. They can choose not to deal
with a seller or not.

What is OnGuard Online?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"jamesgangnc" wrote
How about the sellers account was hijacked because he fell for a phishing
scam.

Hard to say from the account in the OP, but most likely the phisherman then
hoodwinked the buyer into sending a large advance payment, just as eBay
advises everyone not to do. Shoulda been red flags all over this deal.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:32:27 -0500, jamesgangnc penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|How about the sellers account was hijacked because he fell for a phishing
|scam. Or downloaded a virus that collected his ebay id and password. Ebay
|will probably have logs that show that someone provided a good id and
|password. It's not ebay's responsibility or capability to know that the
|person using the id and password is really the correct person.
|
|Our ebay account got hijacked. Ebay found it very quickly and disabled it.
|I never figured out how it was hijacked because we're pretty good about
|recognizing the phishing stuff. After I go it turned back on I got the $5
|verisign token for it and paypal.

eBay owns Paypal......PayPal now owns VeriSign and from the attempted
screwing I got from PayPal..... I feel no sense of security.....

--

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Homepage
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:48:31 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|
|What is OnGuard Online?
|

http://onguardonline.gov/index.html

--

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E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:48:31 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|
|What is OnGuard Online?
|

http://onguardonline.gov/index.html


Thanks. Advice for those who've been living in a cave for the past few
years.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Bob" wrote in message
...

I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.


I get those emails and I don't have an eBay account.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.

Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote in message
...

I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.


I get those emails and I don't have an eBay account.


Same here. I always used to get e-mails telling me that there was a problem
with my PayPal account and I should confirm data.
I never have had , nor will I ever have a 'PayPal' account... or purchase
anything off e-Bay.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.

Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".

And if the scammed guy brings up all this in a jury case, the jury may just
award a large amount of punitive damages in addition to the actual damages.
Ebay claims they are just the marketplace, but marketplaces are also
responsible for what happens in thier marketplace.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:15:39 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.

Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".

Tom, my hotmail account gets that many or more, and I've never used Ebay or
PayPal.
--
John H

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Dec 3, 5:59 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


I get those emails and I don't have an eBay account.


After I made my 5th transaction on ebay, i started getting emails
congratulating me on being a "power seller" and sent me a link to fill
out for application to be in the Power Seller "Gold Club" All they
requested was my handle and password.

uh-huh


uh-huh

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

He wired the money...very very dumb. Many people don't know it, but if
you are in good, long term standing with your CC co. , you can get them
to agree to raise your limit temporarily by, say, 20k, by depositing
that much into the account. Then to finance the Ebay purchase with it
through PayPal. No calling Bull**** either, I've done it. For that
amount. You then have all the protections a CC purchase and PayPal gives
you.
JR

Don White wrote:
Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html




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E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"DB" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html


Here, you would just sue Ebay.


And ebay's lawyers would promptly bury you in paperwork for the next 10
years.


Just have to get a jury date. Good lawyer, and jury that has heard about
crap of the RICH Ebay.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"DB" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a
phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.

Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".

And if the scammed guy brings up all this in a jury case, the jury may
just award a large amount of punitive damages in addition to the actual
damages. Ebay claims they are just the marketplace, but marketplaces are
also responsible for what happens in thier marketplace.

Have you ever actually filed a lawsuit against a company with a big legal
dept in another state or in this case in another country? I had a simple
money owed lawsuit in the same state which was legally speaking a slam
dunk. The defendant was an individual with a lawyer who was not even
especially bright. The defendant signed contracts agreeing to pay for
services performed. The defendant's own expert witness testified in court
that the services had indeed been performed satisfactorily. The "simple"
suit created 1000 pages+ of documents took 28 months to get to court, 4
more months for the judges decision to come down and 4 more months after
that to collect what I was owed from the start according to signed legally
binding contracts. I was lucky to collect anything. As often as not
defendants turn out to be judgement proof.



You need better lawyers.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:35:49 -0500, "DB"
wrote:

Maybe the phisher changed the email contact information in the ebay account
after he accessed it. He may have also locked the real seller out

God point - didn't think of that.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

I got one of these. Works for both paypal and ebay. Best $5 I ever spent.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...ityKey-outside

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:35:49 -0500, "DB"
wrote:

Maybe the phisher changed the email contact information in the ebay
account
after he accessed it. He may have also locked the real seller out

God point - didn't think of that.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Dec 3, 4:48 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...





On Dec 3, 3:49 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

. ..

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Nope, not necessarily.

Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, for one thing, they hijacked an individual's page. Then if you
read Ebay's disclaimers you'll see that they ask you to you OnGuard
Online to protect yourself. Then, it's been proven in courts from
other's trying to sue them that they are nothing more than a
"marketplace that links buyers and sellers". The fact is that the
buyer is responsible for their actions. They can choose not to deal
with a seller or not.

What is OnGuard Online?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's a joint effort by resellers, such as Ebay, and the gov't. to try
and halt phishing and hijacking.
http://onguardonline.gov/index.html

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

In article ,
Don White wrote:
:
:"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
: "Bob" wrote in message
: ...
:
: I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
: eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
: sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
: shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
: no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
: and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
: password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
: have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.
:
:
: I get those emails and I don't have an eBay account.
:
:
:Same here. I always used to get e-mails telling me that there was a problem
:with my PayPal account and I should confirm data.
:I never have had , nor will I ever have a 'PayPal' account... or purchase
:anything off e-Bay.

In my case, the items were definitely put up for sale under my eBay
account. And for a little while until I changed my password, as soon
as I would remove them, they would go back up.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Dec 4, 7:24 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
I got one of these. Works for both paypal and ebay. Best $5 I ever spent.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...curitycenter/g...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:radal3pr3leea7b4n57aq0bfqcda45tefm@4ax .com...



On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:35:49 -0500, "DB"
wrote:

Maybe the phisher changed the email contact information in the ebay
account
after he accessed it. He may have also locked the real seller out

God point - didn't think of that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Isn't that rich..Paypal leaves all kinds of openings in their
security, then charges you to close them. Sounds like a protection
racket to me;)

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

Yup, that happened to me once. I logged in to EBay, and found that I had
*100s* of DVDs for sale. Everything from TV Series, to movies... prolly all
pirated as well. I contacted EBay, and they took care of it in less than an
hour. Kinda scary though.

Now I make sure I log in a few times a week... just to check.

--Mike

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:15:31 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

Yup, that happened to me once. I logged in to EBay, and found that I had
*100s* of DVDs for sale. Everything from TV Series, to movies... prolly all
pirated as well. I contacted EBay, and they took care of it in less than an
hour. Kinda scary though.

That's what I'm wondering - how does that happen?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:15:31 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

Yup, that happened to me once. I logged in to EBay, and found that I had
*100s* of DVDs for sale. Everything from TV Series, to movies... prolly
all
pirated as well. I contacted EBay, and they took care of it in less than
an
hour. Kinda scary though.

That's what I'm wondering - how does that happen?

Top security?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

It's not because paypal leaves security holes in their system. It's to
prevent someone that has illicitedly gotten your id and password from
getting in. All the security in the world is not going to help if someone
else has your id and password. With this thing you now need three things,
an id, a password, and the number displayed on the fob. The number is
different each time you press the button. It works for both paypal and
ebay. Admittedly they could give them away but I'm thinking they are not
making any money at $5 a go for lifetime service.

I have a similar device from rsa that I use to establish a vpn tunnel from
home to my work campus internal network. It allows my home pc to behave
just as if it is physically connected at work behind the firewall. Anything
I can do at work, I can do from home.

wrote in message
...
On Dec 4, 7:24 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
I got one of these. Works for both paypal and ebay. Best $5 I ever
spent.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...curitycenter/g...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:35:49 -0500, "DB"
wrote:

Maybe the phisher changed the email contact information in the ebay
account
after he accessed it. He may have also locked the real seller out

God point - didn't think of that.- Hide quoted text -

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Isn't that rich..Paypal leaves all kinds of openings in their
security, then charges you to close them. Sounds like a protection
racket to me;)

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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It's not because paypal leaves security holes in their system. It's to
prevent someone that has illicitedly gotten your id and password from
getting in. All the security in the world is not going to help if someone
else has your id and password. With this thing you now need three things,
an id, a password, and the number displayed on the fob. The number is
different each time you press the button. It works for both paypal and
ebay. Admittedly they could give them away but I'm thinking they are not
making any money at $5 a go for lifetime service.

I have a similar device from rsa that I use to establish a vpn tunnel from
home to my work campus internal network. It allows my home pc to behave
just as if it is physically connected at work behind the firewall.
Anything I can do at work, I can do from home.

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On Dec 4, 7:24 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
I got one of these. Works for both paypal and ebay. Best $5 I ever
spent.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...curitycenter/g...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:35:49 -0500, "DB"
wrote:

Maybe the phisher changed the email contact information in the ebay
account
after he accessed it. He may have also locked the real seller out

God point - didn't think of that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Isn't that rich..Paypal leaves all kinds of openings in their
security, then charges you to close them. Sounds like a protection
racket to me;)



Ford Motor company has the same thing for thier factory reps.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

That's what I'm wondering - how does that happen?

They say it's not by stealing usernames and passwords, there's another
method... wouldn't elaborate (I don't blame them). I changed my password
anyway. ;-)

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:15:31 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

Yup, that happened to me once. I logged in to EBay, and found that I had
*100s* of DVDs for sale. Everything from TV Series, to movies... prolly
all
pirated as well. I contacted EBay, and they took care of it in less than
an
hour. Kinda scary though.

That's what I'm wondering - how does that happen?

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

Ford Motor company has the same thing for thier factory reps.

My wife works for EMC and has the same type setup.

--Mike

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
...
It's not because paypal leaves security holes in their system. It's to
prevent someone that has illicitedly gotten your id and password from
getting in. All the security in the world is not going to help if
someone else has your id and password. With this thing you now need
three things, an id, a password, and the number displayed on the fob.
The number is different each time you press the button. It works for
both paypal and ebay. Admittedly they could give them away but I'm
thinking they are not making any money at $5 a go for lifetime service.

I have a similar device from rsa that I use to establish a vpn tunnel
from home to my work campus internal network. It allows my home pc to
behave just as if it is physically connected at work behind the firewall.
Anything I can do at work, I can do from home.

wrote in message
...
On Dec 4, 7:24 am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
I got one of these. Works for both paypal and ebay. Best $5 I ever
spent.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...curitycenter/g...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:radal3pr3leea7b4n57aq0bfqcda45tefm@4ax .com...



On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:35:49 -0500, "DB"
wrote:

Maybe the phisher changed the email contact information in the ebay
account
after he accessed it. He may have also locked the real seller out

God point - didn't think of that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Isn't that rich..Paypal leaves all kinds of openings in their
security, then charges you to close them. Sounds like a protection
racket to me;)



Ford Motor company has the same thing for thier factory reps.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

I just got a really high quality spoofed.... "please send me an
invoice for the item you sold" .....eBay email.

Make sure the links match the stated URL.....

I get 4 or 5 of those a week. As you stated, make sure the links match the
stated URL. It's the easiest way to avoid these phishing emails.

--Mike

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:40:54 -0400, Don White penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html


I just got a really high quality spoofed.... "please send me an
invoice for the item you sold" .....eBay email.

Make sure the links match the stated URL.....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Sounds like a dumb sort.

You give the cheque when you gets the keys. Heck, no shortage of Canadians
that would promise you a car in 10 days for cash today.

Probably should sue eBay anyways.

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:47:12 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

They say it's not by stealing usernames and passwords, there's another
method... wouldn't elaborate (I don't blame them). I changed my password
anyway. ;-)

There are lots of scams on eBay and I've been a "victim" in the sense
that I was out bid, then asked if I wanted to buy after the "winner"
backed out. It works like this - you put some items up for sale, get
some of your friends to bid, use different computers yourself to get
the bid up under false names and drive the bid price up.

I know this happens because I had somebody tell me that's how she does
it for glass jewerly materials and her own creations.

Not everybody scammed by having their accounts taken over is stupid
and phished - there has to be a hole in the system in more than one
place.

I gave up on eBay after bidding on some of the deep blue Ande fishing
line I like to use. When the price went past what I can get a 1,000
yard spool for from Cabela's or Bass Pro by a few dollars, I noticed
it was all the same bidders. Then I watched the next sale on the same
stuff and it was all the same bidders pushing the price up.

It's all a scam and as an "auction" site, it ain't what it used to be.