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JoeSpareBedroom December 3rd 07 09:48 PM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 
wrote in message
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On Dec 3, 3:49 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:01:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 2:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message


. ..


Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html


Here, you would just sue Ebay.


Bull****.


I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.


Nope, not necessarily.


Ok, just for the sake of discussion, what's the caveat?- Hide quoted
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Well, for one thing, they hijacked an individual's page. Then if you
read Ebay's disclaimers you'll see that they ask you to you OnGuard
Online to protect yourself. Then, it's been proven in courts from
other's trying to sue them that they are nothing more than a
"marketplace that links buyers and sellers". The fact is that the
buyer is responsible for their actions. They can choose not to deal
with a seller or not.


What is OnGuard Online?



Ernest Scribbler December 3rd 07 09:50 PM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 
"jamesgangnc" wrote
How about the sellers account was hijacked because he fell for a phishing
scam.


Hard to say from the account in the OP, but most likely the phisherman then
hoodwinked the buyer into sending a large advance payment, just as eBay
advises everyone not to do. Shoulda been red flags all over this deal.



Gene Kearns December 3rd 07 09:50 PM

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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:32:27 -0500, jamesgangnc penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|How about the sellers account was hijacked because he fell for a phishing
|scam. Or downloaded a virus that collected his ebay id and password. Ebay
|will probably have logs that show that someone provided a good id and
|password. It's not ebay's responsibility or capability to know that the
|person using the id and password is really the correct person.
|
|Our ebay account got hijacked. Ebay found it very quickly and disabled it.
|I never figured out how it was hijacked because we're pretty good about
|recognizing the phishing stuff. After I go it turned back on I got the $5
|verisign token for it and paypal.

eBay owns Paypal......PayPal now owns VeriSign and from the attempted
screwing I got from PayPal..... I feel no sense of security.....

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Gene Kearns December 3rd 07 09:52 PM

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:48:31 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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|
|What is OnGuard Online?
|

http://onguardonline.gov/index.html

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JoeSpareBedroom December 3rd 07 10:03 PM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:48:31 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


|
|What is OnGuard Online?
|

http://onguardonline.gov/index.html



Thanks. Advice for those who've been living in a cave for the past few
years.



Bob December 3rd 07 11:50 PM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.

JoeSpareBedroom December 3rd 07 11:59 PM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 
"Bob" wrote in message
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I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.



I get those emails and I don't have an eBay account.



Short Wave Sportfishing December 4th 07 12:15 AM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.


I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.


Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.


Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".

Don White December 4th 07 01:12 AM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"Bob" wrote in message
...

I had my eBay account hijacked not too long ago. I started getting
eMail confirmations regarding items I had supposely put up for
sale...someone in the Far East was using it to try and sell athletic
shoes and all kinds of what appeared to be gray market goods. I have
no idea how they got my password as I am very aware of phishing schemes
and the like. When I found out about it, I immediately changed my eBay
password, cancelled the items for sale, and also contacted eBay and
have not had any problems since. But it was a very odd experience.



I get those emails and I don't have an eBay account.



Same here. I always used to get e-mails telling me that there was a problem
with my PayPal account and I should confirm data.
I never have had , nor will I ever have a 'PayPal' account... or purchase
anything off e-Bay.



Calif Bill December 4th 07 02:11 AM

E-bay shoppers beware....
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...

Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.


Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.


Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".


And if the scammed guy brings up all this in a jury case, the jury may just
award a large amount of punitive damages in addition to the actual damages.
Ebay claims they are just the marketplace, but marketplaces are also
responsible for what happens in thier marketplace.




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