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BillP November 27th 07 08:45 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
"The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with
the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon
dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's
burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels."

"We're suggesting 1.6 percent of (global) GDP - still very affordable,"
Kjorven said. "The countries of the world that are the principal culprits,
if you wish, for creating this problem in the first place need to act
strongly to safeguard the future of those that have done nothing to cause
this problem but are the most vulnerable."


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...5_wKAD8T664JO0





John H. November 27th 07 11:08 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:19:59 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:45:34 GMT, BillP penned the following whining
about global phenomena, that causes him the anxiety of cognitive
dissonance, to the readers of rec.boats:

"The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with
the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon
dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's
burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.............."



BFD.

Now, the well heeled of NC, those that can afford a cool 1mil plus of
land bordered on at least one side by salt water, have finally
realized that this global warming stuff may actually hit them in
*their* pocketbook.
http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/p...5&source=email


http://www.newsobserver.com/2660/story/589840.html

Look for the first admission of the existence of global warming, from
the detractors, to come from those subject to the smackdown from
actuarial tables......


They can get a lot of sand from all the bunkers in those damned NC golf
courses. Some of them are ridiculous, especially Tanglewood.

"Scientists predict that the buildup of carbon dioxide gas in the
atmosphere will lead to higher global temperatures. That warming will cause
seas to rise faster and increase erosion driven by storms." (from your
second site)

Those guys must not have seen the 'hidden chart'.
--
John H

BillP November 28th 07 12:19 AM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:45:34 GMT, BillP penned the following whining
about global phenomena, that causes him the anxiety of cognitive
dissonance, to the readers of rec.boats:

"The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies
with
the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating
carbon
dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's
burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.............."



BFD.

Now, the well heeled of NC, those that can afford a cool 1mil plus of
land bordered on at least one side by salt water, have finally
realized that this global warming stuff may actually hit them in
*their* pocketbook.
http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/p...5&source=email


http://www.newsobserver.com/2660/story/589840.html

Look for the first admission of the existence of global warming, from
the detractors, to come from those subject to the smackdown from
actuarial tables......


"Mallinson said that about 130,000 years ago, the shoreline was about where
it is today. Then, polar regions grew significantly warmer for an extended
period. Sea level rose 15 to 20 feet. All or parts of a dozen counties of
present-day Eastern North Carolina were submerged, making areas of Gates and
Washington counties beachfront."

"Some evidence suggests it rose fairly rapidly up to the Suffolk shoreline,"
said Mallinson, a geologist at East Carolina University. "That is what we
think may be beginning to happen today."



See a pattern?







[email protected] November 28th 07 03:03 AM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:45:34 GMT, BillP penned the following whining
about global phenomena, that causes him the anxiety of cognitive
dissonance, to the readers of rec.boats:

"The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with
the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon
dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's
burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.............."


BFD.

Now, the well heeled of NC, those that can afford a cool 1mil plus of
land bordered on at least one side by salt water, have finally
realized that this global warming stuff may actually hit them in
*their* pocketbook.http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/p...=2007711260345...

http://www.newsobserver.com/2660/story/589840.html

Look for the first admission of the existence of global warming, from
the detractors, to come from those subject to the smackdown from
actuarial tables......

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!

BillP November 28th 07 05:13 AM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 

wrote in message
...
On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns



Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


I'm pretty sure neither of us ever said global warming wasn't happening, but
don't let that little *fact* get in the way, ok?



Reginald P. Smithers III November 28th 07 01:13 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio for
less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp had only
increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there a base of
historical data that both the believers and detractors can agree upon?


HK November 28th 07 01:21 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio for
less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp had only
increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there a base of
historical data that both the believers and detractors can agree upon?



You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 28th 07 01:27 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there a
base of historical data that both the believers and detractors can
agree upon?



You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.


He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?


HK November 28th 07 01:31 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats



Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!

Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there a
base of historical data that both the believers and detractors can
agree upon?



You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.


He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?



Only on NPR, never on Faux or any stations that carry Faux feeds.

The only "talk radio" show I listen to with any regularity is the Diane
Rehm Show, which is probably the best talk radio show out there.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 28th 07 01:46 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats




Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!

Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there a
base of historical data that both the believers and detractors can
agree upon?



You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.


He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?



Only on NPR, never on Faux or any stations that carry Faux feeds.

The only "talk radio" show I listen to with any regularity is the Diane
Rehm Show, which is probably the best talk radio show out there.


I don't think I have ever heard talk radio I would actually plan on
listening, even though Hannity tells everyone all he asks for is "3
hours a day, everyday". I have enjoyed many of the in depth interviews
or subject reviews on NPR, but I only hear it if I happen to be in the
car and I happen to hit the button for NPR. I only listen to NPR, if I
plan on driving for a long time. Normally I don't bother to change the
channel and it stays on the station that provides the best traffic
updates. Last night, I had to change the channel.

HK November 28th 07 03:16 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats





Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!

Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there
a base of historical data that both the believers and detractors
can agree upon?



You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.

He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?



Only on NPR, never on Faux or any stations that carry Faux feeds.

The only "talk radio" show I listen to with any regularity is the
Diane Rehm Show, which is probably the best talk radio show out there.


I don't think I have ever heard talk radio I would actually plan on
listening, even though Hannity tells everyone all he asks for is "3
hours a day, everyday". I have enjoyed many of the in depth interviews
or subject reviews on NPR, but I only hear it if I happen to be in the
car and I happen to hit the button for NPR. I only listen to NPR, if I
plan on driving for a long time. Normally I don't bother to change the
channel and it stays on the station that provides the best traffic
updates. Last night, I had to change the channel.



Diane Rehm is on in the AM here, and she runs a well-balanced and
controlled adult discussion program, with loonies on the left or right
simply not invited. Actually few of her shows are political in nature,
but when they are, there is really thoughtful discussion.

John H. November 28th 07 05:05 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:03:17 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:45:34 GMT, BillP penned the following whining
about global phenomena, that causes him the anxiety of cognitive
dissonance, to the readers of rec.boats:

"The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with
the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon
dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's
burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.............."


BFD.

Now, the well heeled of NC, those that can afford a cool 1mil plus of
land bordered on at least one side by salt water, have finally
realized that this global warming stuff may actually hit them in
*their* pocketbook.
http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/p...=2007711260345...

http://www.newsobserver.com/2660/story/589840.html

Look for the first admission of the existence of global warming, from
the detractors, to come from those subject to the smackdown from
actuarial tables......

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


What a silly statement.
--
John H

John H. November 28th 07 06:50 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:16:21 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats





Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!

Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there
a base of historical data that both the believers and detractors
can agree upon?



You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.

He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?



Only on NPR, never on Faux or any stations that carry Faux feeds.

The only "talk radio" show I listen to with any regularity is the
Diane Rehm Show, which is probably the best talk radio show out there.


I don't think I have ever heard talk radio I would actually plan on
listening, even though Hannity tells everyone all he asks for is "3
hours a day, everyday". I have enjoyed many of the in depth interviews
or subject reviews on NPR, but I only hear it if I happen to be in the
car and I happen to hit the button for NPR. I only listen to NPR, if I
plan on driving for a long time. Normally I don't bother to change the
channel and it stays on the station that provides the best traffic
updates. Last night, I had to change the channel.



Diane Rehm is on in the AM here, and she runs a well-balanced and
controlled adult discussion program, with loonies on the left or right
simply not invited. Actually few of her shows are political in nature,
but when they are, there is really thoughtful discussion.


....and she leans way left, as do most of her guests, as does NPR in
general. But that's OK.
--
John H

BillP November 28th 07 06:52 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 

wrote in message
...
On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns



Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Speaking of "facts", which one of these two "experts" do you think is
focused on them?

Also, don't you find it interesting that the UN has decided to hold a
climate-change conference in Jakarta during a high in the 18-year tide
cycles?



Indonesian official says flood caused by global warming
Winston-Salem Journal


JAKARTA, Indonesia - Indonesia's environment minister said yesterday that
global warming was the cause of flooding in the capital of Jakarta that
drove thousands of people out of their homes and cut off a highway to the
international airport.

However, flood expert Jan Japp Brinkman said that the authorities had also
ignored warnings about exceptionally high 18-year tide cycles, and had not
repaired a sea barrier breached more than a week ago.

The flooding came as Indonesia prepares to hold a U.N. climate-change
conference Dec. 3-14 to start negotiations on a replacement for the 1997
Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse-gas emissions to expire in 2012.

http://tinyurl.com/2x68e7





Reginald P. Smithers III November 28th 07 06:55 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:16:21 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats




Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!
Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there
a base of historical data that both the believers and detractors
can agree upon?


You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.
He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?


Only on NPR, never on Faux or any stations that carry Faux feeds.

The only "talk radio" show I listen to with any regularity is the
Diane Rehm Show, which is probably the best talk radio show out there.
I don't think I have ever heard talk radio I would actually plan on
listening, even though Hannity tells everyone all he asks for is "3
hours a day, everyday". I have enjoyed many of the in depth interviews
or subject reviews on NPR, but I only hear it if I happen to be in the
car and I happen to hit the button for NPR. I only listen to NPR, if I
plan on driving for a long time. Normally I don't bother to change the
channel and it stays on the station that provides the best traffic
updates. Last night, I had to change the channel.


Diane Rehm is on in the AM here, and she runs a well-balanced and
controlled adult discussion program, with loonies on the left or right
simply not invited. Actually few of her shows are political in nature,
but when they are, there is really thoughtful discussion.


...and she leans way left, as do most of her guests, as does NPR in
general. But that's OK.


They definitely do lean to the left, but if you compare them to
Fox, they are Fair and Balanced, but then again compared to Fox, Goebel
was Fair and Balanced. ;)


John H. November 28th 07 07:16 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:55:17 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:16:21 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's
Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats




Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!
Last night I listened to one of the most obnoxious guy on the radio
for less than 5 min. Hannity was carrying on about the global temp
had only increased one degree in the last hundred years. Is there
a base of historical data that both the believers and detractors
can agree upon?


You listen to Sean Hannity? Well, that explains a lot.
He was on the radio when I started my car. He was screaming about
everything, and it was like a car accident, I couldn't turn it off.

Have you ever listened to talk radio?


Only on NPR, never on Faux or any stations that carry Faux feeds.

The only "talk radio" show I listen to with any regularity is the
Diane Rehm Show, which is probably the best talk radio show out there.
I don't think I have ever heard talk radio I would actually plan on
listening, even though Hannity tells everyone all he asks for is "3
hours a day, everyday". I have enjoyed many of the in depth interviews
or subject reviews on NPR, but I only hear it if I happen to be in the
car and I happen to hit the button for NPR. I only listen to NPR, if I
plan on driving for a long time. Normally I don't bother to change the
channel and it stays on the station that provides the best traffic
updates. Last night, I had to change the channel.

Diane Rehm is on in the AM here, and she runs a well-balanced and
controlled adult discussion program, with loonies on the left or right
simply not invited. Actually few of her shows are political in nature,
but when they are, there is really thoughtful discussion.


...and she leans way left, as do most of her guests, as does NPR in
general. But that's OK.


They definitely do lean to the left, but if you compare them to
Fox, they are Fair and Balanced, but then again compared to Fox, Goebel
was Fair and Balanced. ;)


Compared to some of the characters on Fox, that is true. I find Fox to
present the news in a balanced way. By that I mean both sides are shown,
whereas on NBC only one side is shown.

However, I will admit that NBC had a presentation last night on Iraqis
returning to Iraq from Syria. I was surprised to see it.
--
John H

[email protected] November 29th 07 04:26 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Nov 28, 12:13 am, "BillP" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


I'm pretty sure neither of us ever said global warming wasn't happening, but
don't let that little *fact* get in the way, ok?


Really? Shortwave has repeatedly said right here in this forum that
global warming isn't happening. But don't let that little fact get in
the way.

[email protected] November 29th 07 04:27 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Nov 28, 12:05 pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:03:17 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:45:34 GMT, BillP penned the following whining
about global phenomena, that causes him the anxiety of cognitive
dissonance, to the readers of rec.boats:


"The development panel says the greatest financial responsibility lies with
the U.S. and other rich nations most responsible for the accumulating carbon
dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mainly from man's
burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels.............."


BFD.


Now, the well heeled of NC, those that can afford a cool 1mil plus of
land bordered on at least one side by salt water, have finally
realized that this global warming stuff may actually hit them in
*their* pocketbook.http://www.starnewsonline.com/apps/p...=2007711260345...


http://www.newsobserver.com/2660/story/589840.html


Look for the first admission of the existence of global warming, from
the detractors, to come from those subject to the smackdown from
actuarial tables......


--


Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/


Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


What a silly statement.
--
John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Why?

[email protected] November 29th 07 04:28 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Nov 28, 1:52 pm, "BillP" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Speaking of "facts", which one of these two "experts" do you think is
focused on them?

Also, don't you find it interesting that the UN has decided to hold a
climate-change conference in Jakarta during a high in the 18-year tide
cycles?

Indonesian official says flood caused by global warming
Winston-Salem Journal

JAKARTA, Indonesia - Indonesia's environment minister said yesterday that
global warming was the cause of flooding in the capital of Jakarta that
drove thousands of people out of their homes and cut off a highway to the
international airport.

However, flood expert Jan Japp Brinkman said that the authorities had also
ignored warnings about exceptionally high 18-year tide cycles, and had not
repaired a sea barrier breached more than a week ago.

The flooding came as Indonesia prepares to hold a U.N. climate-change
conference Dec. 3-14 to start negotiations on a replacement for the 1997
Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse-gas emissions to expire in 2012.

http://tinyurl.com/2x68e7


Where in that article does it state and give data that global warming
isn't happening? And where in that article does it state, again with
data, that global warming isn't caused or at least partially caused by
man?

BillP November 29th 07 11:38 PM

UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 

wrote in message
...
On Nov 28, 1:52 pm, "BillP" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Speaking of "facts", which one of these two "experts" do you think is
focused on them?

Also, don't you find it interesting that the UN has decided to hold a
climate-change conference in Jakarta during a high in the 18-year tide
cycles?

Indonesian official says flood caused by global warming
Winston-Salem Journal

JAKARTA, Indonesia - Indonesia's environment minister said yesterday that
global warming was the cause of flooding in the capital of Jakarta that
drove thousands of people out of their homes and cut off a highway to the
international airport.

However, flood expert Jan Japp Brinkman said that the authorities had
also
ignored warnings about exceptionally high 18-year tide cycles, and had
not
repaired a sea barrier breached more than a week ago.

The flooding came as Indonesia prepares to hold a U.N. climate-change
conference Dec. 3-14 to start negotiations on a replacement for the 1997
Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse-gas emissions to expire in 2012.

http://tinyurl.com/2x68e7


Where in that article does it state and give data that global warming
isn't happening? And where in that article does it state, again with
data, that global warming isn't caused or at least partially caused by
man?


Dumber than a box of hammers you are.



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UN: Poor Need $86 Billion in Climate Aid
 
On Nov 29, 6:38 pm, "BillP" wrote:
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On Nov 28, 1:52 pm, "BillP" wrote:
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On Nov 27, 2:19 pm, Gene Kearns


Gene how dare you use facts in this debate. You know global warming
isn't happening because two people have said so, Shortwave and GWB!


Speaking of "facts", which one of these two "experts" do you think is
focused on them?


Also, don't you find it interesting that the UN has decided to hold a
climate-change conference in Jakarta during a high in the 18-year tide
cycles?


Indonesian official says flood caused by global warming
Winston-Salem Journal


JAKARTA, Indonesia - Indonesia's environment minister said yesterday that
global warming was the cause of flooding in the capital of Jakarta that
drove thousands of people out of their homes and cut off a highway to the
international airport.


However, flood expert Jan Japp Brinkman said that the authorities had
also
ignored warnings about exceptionally high 18-year tide cycles, and had
not
repaired a sea barrier breached more than a week ago.


The flooding came as Indonesia prepares to hold a U.N. climate-change
conference Dec. 3-14 to start negotiations on a replacement for the 1997
Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse-gas emissions to expire in 2012.


http://tinyurl.com/2x68e7


Where in that article does it state and give data that global warming
isn't happening? And where in that article does it state, again with
data, that global warming isn't caused or at least partially caused by
man?


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