Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:57 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 27, 2:28�pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:27:26 -0500, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
"With a little bit of budgeting, it would seem reasonable that most
families could justify spending 6-month's income on a used boat or
perhaps a year's income on a new one."
Only if they are insane.
In 2006, the median annual household income according to the US Census
Bureau was determined to be $48,201.00.
Maybe a 245 Bayliner Cruiser for 50K?
Maybe 3 families could go together and buy a 28' Mako.... 106K on sale
at Bass Pro....
Nah.........
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I suspect that if we further qualified beyond just "median household
income for Americans" to "median household income for Americans likely
to purchase a boat of any kind" the number would go up.
That 40-some thousand figure includes tens of millions of retirees,
and some of them rather nicely on assets rather than income. "Income"
might be limited to $3000 a month in social security payments, but if
that can be supplemented with another few thousand from savings, muni
bonds, a "reverse mortgage" etc they are living a lot better than a
family where two wage earners are grossing $9 an hour each.
The low figure also includes students working part time, as well as
all the burger-flippers, hotel maids, and other workers who are
literally "subsisting" rather than earning a living wage.
With fuel at the boat dock heading towards $4.00 a gallon, I don't see a
great future for boats in the mid to upper "fuel burn" ranges.- Hide quoted text -

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I'd say the twin big-block gas boat is probably done, or nearly so.
Agreed. At these big dollars for fuel, the old bromide "You'll never
save enough in fuel to offset the cost of a diesel engine" is now even
less true than it used to be.

The cost of fuel is more likely to deter new people from taking up the
sport than keep existing boaters off the water. Folks who don't have a
boat now probably imagine that fuel is a relatively major expediture
in the overall scheme of owning a powerboat. Those of us who already
boat know that fuel can be a significant number, but in the grand
scheme of things it is often far from the largest boating related
expense.



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job for
a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine job. Cost
me $165 instead of $300.

HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job for
a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine job. Cost
me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always promoted
the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What happened?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always promoted
the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.


$165 for a big 21-footer, including the lower unit of the engine ain't bad.

Do you wrap your hub, shaft, et cetera?

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On Nov 28, 4:46 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.

I thought he came to you, you know....."mobile basis"??

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.

No, reading a story like that makes me proud. a young kid cutting his
own path. It's obvious that he wants to be good at what he does , and
takes pride in his work. and makes sure that his buddies do a good job
as well. I commend him!

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always
promoted the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What
happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

I actually use my marina's boat store for 90% of my needs, but they
always meet competitive prices for parts and supplies. I do most of the
maintenance and winterization myself. I actually enjoy putzing around
on the boat, but then again, I would enjoy taking a long cruise on a
floating RV, you know a trawler.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always
promoted the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What
happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

I actually use my marina's boat store for 90% of my needs, but they
always meet competitive prices for parts and supplies. I do most of the
maintenance and winterization myself.


More Reggie b.s.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always promoted
the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

Is your name-calling necessary?
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John H