On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:12:40 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

The 20% or so of the boaters in the
country, the fuel costs of getting the fishing hole with the 12-16' fishing
boat is going to be 10-20x the fuel costs for a day of fishing.

I've had this discussion with a number of tournament types over the
past couple of weeks and their overall approach to the upcoming
southern season and next summer.

A lot of guys are going to double up and team fish.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.


$165 for a big 21-footer, including the lower unit of the engine ain't bad.

Do you wrap your hub, shaft, et cetera?

http://tinyurl.com/3ceco4

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always
promoted the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What
happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

I actually use my marina's boat store for 90% of my needs, but they
always meet competitive prices for parts and supplies. I do most of the
maintenance and winterization myself. I actually enjoy putzing around
on the boat, but then again, I would enjoy taking a long cruise on a
floating RV, you know a trawler.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always
promoted the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What
happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

I actually use my marina's boat store for 90% of my needs, but they
always meet competitive prices for parts and supplies. I do most of the
maintenance and winterization myself.


More Reggie b.s.

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:



Speaking of cost, the guy who shrinkwrapped Yo Ho for me did the job
for a little more than half what the dealer charges. He did a fine
job. Cost me $165 instead of $300.

Of course, he didn't have any overhead. In the past you always promoted
the concept of paying the extra money to the dealer. What happened?





Of course he has overhead, crap-for-brains.

I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

If you had a boat, you'd understand. But, of course, you don't.

Is your name-calling necessary?
--
John H

On Nov 28, 3:22�am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:12:40 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
The 20% or so of the boaters in the
country, the fuel costs of getting the fishing hole with the 12-16' fishing
boat is going to be 10-20x the fuel costs for a day of fishing.

I've had this discussion with a number of tournament types over the
past couple of weeks and their overall approach to the upcoming
southern season and next summer.

A lot of guys are going to double up and team fish.

It would make sense that people will change some of their customary
boating practices to adapt to the higher fuel costs, but I still
predict that few people who currently boat will be driven out of the
pastime soley because gas or diesel is up a couple of dollars per
gallon.

On Nov 28, 4:46 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:17:34 -0500, HK wrote:
I don't mind paying the dealer for the mechanical expertise and parts
inventory he must carry, but activities such as "detailing" and
shrinkwrapping don't require either, and I see no reason to pay dealer
prices for them.

There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.

I thought he came to you, you know....."mobile basis"??

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


There is a young guy up the street from me, high school student, who
has made quite a small business out of detailing cars, boats, trucks,
etc.

A year ago, he stopped by when I was shrink wrapping the boats and
asked some questions about it. He helped me wrap the Ranger, asked
more questions and I told him - hey, simple investment, not a lot of
money involved - go mobile like your detailing business.

He's doing quite well with it. He hired three of his friends and they
are now doing detailing and shrink wrapping all kinds of stuff on a
mobile basis. He advertised shrink wrapping for RVs, trailers and
ended up doing a whole collection of antique tractors for a local
collector who is having a new storage/museum facility built.

When I get my Ranger back, I'm probably going to take it to him to
wrap instead of doing it myself.

No, reading a story like that makes me proud. a young kid cutting his
own path. It's obvious that he wants to be good at what he does , and
takes pride in his work. and makes sure that his buddies do a good job
as well. I commend him!

I would think that the reasoning behind this is that people with small
crafts are tired of paying slip fees for something mostly portable.
That's what I like about my 23'r. I can still trailer it around, and
not be stuck with slip fees and not knowing that my boat was being
watched or not. And/or the marina is finding that they can pull in
much more revenue by accomodating larger crafts with minor expansion
expense. Especially if they charge by the foot of the boat.

wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:34:13 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Nov 28, 3:22?am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:12:40 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
The 20% or so of the boaters in the
country, the fuel costs of getting the fishing hole with the 12-16' fishing
boat is going to be 10-20x the fuel costs for a day of fishing.

I've had this discussion with a number of tournament types over the
past couple of weeks and their overall approach to the upcoming
southern season and next summer.

A lot of guys are going to double up and team fish.

It would make sense that people will change some of their customary
boating practices to adapt to the higher fuel costs, but I still
predict that few people who currently boat will be driven out of the
pastime soley because gas or diesel is up a couple of dollars per
gallon.

In my area, it was very apparent this past season that the bulk of
fishing boats from 16 to 20 feet were absent from slips. The parking
lots at area ramps were far more crowded than in the past. Seems
pretty obvious what happened.

Some marinas are responding by removing the smaller slips and
replacing them with new accomodations for larger boats.