HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.

Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.




How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.

I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will
agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat

HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 27, 8:29 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Nov 27, 4:05�am, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:15:45 -0500, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:04 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
Colored spotlights, inflatable figures, plastic candy
canes............the
list is endless! � ;-)
Neon palm trees and flamingos are very popular here in south
Florida.
(not home yet but making good progress)
One of the aspects of Florida I enjoyed the most when I lived
there was
the absolute tastelessness on exhibit almost everywhere. I
happened to
be in one dipstick Florida town one holiday season and got to see its
annual Christmas parade, in which the various fundie church
congregations ran floats depicting the crucifixion. Yes, they had
live
guys up there on the cross. Well, gag me with a spoon.
Harry, I was raised Roman Catholic, have been to many religious
festivals
and parades, and have lived all over this country and several
different
parts of the world. I've never seen or heard of a live person
displayed on
a cross, except at Oberammergau, Germany.
In the past couple weeks you've described two such incidents.
Remarkable.
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In San Miguel de Allende, in Mexico, the Good Friday religious parade
includes a live person dragging a heavy cross through the street of
town. To make the spectacle more realistic, they weave a crown of
thorns for the person portraying Jesus and jam it down on his head
until blood starts running down his face. No mention, however, of
anybody willing to have nails driven through the wrists or have his
shins broken to reenact an actual cruicifixion. Not to say that it
couldn't be done somewhere; people beat themselves with whips and
handle poison snakes in the name of religion, so how hard would it be
to imagine that some zealot gets up on a cross and pretends to be
crucified?
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/trave.../gasemana.html
Most people probably don't know that the actual cause of death in
crucifixion is usually a form of drowning. With the lower legs broken,
the victim must rely upon arm strength to keep from literally
"sagging"
down the cross. When the body hangs down long enough with arms
stretched overhead, the lungs begin to fill up with fluid. Only by
pulling back to an full upright position can the lungs clear enough to
breath properly. Eventually the arms lose the required strength, and
the victim
drowns in his own fluid.
Not something most people would want to portray, I'd think.
I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.
A. These weren't Catholics...they were crazed fundies.
B. There were very few Latinos in the area where I saw the parade when I
saw it.
C. It was a Christmas parade.

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I'm not trying to debate what you saw, only remarking that it seemed
unusual.

(activate sense of humor here)
Harry, how do you visually determine the difference between a Catholic
and a "crazed fundie"?



I am very familiar with the Roman Catholic faith in the United States.
None of the Catholics I have ever known, and I have known and know a lot
of them, would ever climb up on a cross during a Christmas parade to
portray themselves as Jesus.

In South America, maybe. I've not seen that.

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I asked
my hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They weren't
Catholics; they were fundie Baptists.

So what church and what communities were these fundies located?

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:37:26 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

I'm surprised that the Christ on a Cross parades that Harry mentioned
would have occured around Christmas. Don't the Catholics concentrate
more on images of the infant Jesus during this portion of the year
and the crucified Jesus during lent? Maybe he saw a Good Friday or
Easter parade back in FL? There are a lot of Hispanics in Florida
these days, which undoubtedly increases the percentage of practicing
Catholics.

Chuck,
I would be willing to give very good odds that there is no Christ on a
Cross parage during the Christmas season. As I said, Harry saw a
photo of it, and didn't understand the time of year it is done, and
who was doing the parade.

How much you willing to put up, sh*t for brains? How about...$100,000?

It's not a Christ on a Cross parade. It is a Christmas parade, and as
part of it, there were guys on floats up there on crosses.

I am willing to put up $10,000 about the Christmas parade, if you will
agree to put up $20,000 about the Lobster Boat

I'll bid 40 Quatloos.

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I asked my
hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They weren't Catholics;
they were fundie Baptists.



That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high" Protestant
tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a cross,
not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ in their
rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch




I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all the
fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But it
doesn't.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:51:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I asked my
hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They weren't Catholics;
they were fundie Baptists.



That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high" Protestant
tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a cross,
not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ in their
rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch




I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all the
fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But it
doesn't.

What town?
--
John H

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I
asked my hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They
weren't Catholics; they were fundie Baptists.



That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high"
Protestant tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a
cross, not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ in
their rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch



I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all the
fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But it
doesn't.


What was the name of the town?

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:51:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I asked my
hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They weren't Catholics;
they were fundie Baptists.


That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high" Protestant
tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a cross,
not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ in their
rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch



I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all the
fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But it
doesn't.

What town?

sorry, didn't see your post.

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:51:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I
asked my hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They
weren't Catholics; they were fundie Baptists.


That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high"
Protestant tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a
cross, not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ
in their rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch


I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all
the fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But
it doesn't.

What town?

sorry, didn't see your post.



Hehehe. This is funny.

What town, what town, what town?

I told you: a small town in NE Florida.

I believe I mentioned this was in the early 1990 to mid 1990s. I have no
idea whether the same sort of parade is still taking place now, since I
haven't been in that area during the holiday season for many years.

Oh, I get it you want to use your highly refined internet research
skills to see what you can google.

Well, it may not be on google.

Then what? It didn't happen?

What a pair of plonkers the two of you are.

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:51:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I
asked my hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They
weren't Catholics; they were fundie Baptists.


That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high"
Protestant tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on
a cross, not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ
in their rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch


I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all
the fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But
it doesn't.

What town?

sorry, didn't see your post.



Hehehe. This is funny.

What town, what town, what town?

I told you: a small town in NE Florida.

I believe I mentioned this was in the early 1990 to mid 1990s. I have no
idea whether the same sort of parade is still taking place now, since I
haven't been in that area during the holiday season for many years.

Oh, I get it you want to use your highly refined internet research
skills to see what you can google.

Well, it may not be on google.

Then what? It didn't happen?

What a pair of plonkers the two of you are.


So Harry, what was the name of this small town?

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:33:08 -0500, HK wrote:

Reginald Smithers III wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:51:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

How do I know they were crazed fundies? When I saw the parade, I
asked my hosts, "Who are those nutcases?" and they told me. They
weren't Catholics; they were fundie Baptists.


That is a bit strange Harry.

The figure of Jesus on the cross is more of a Catholic and "high"
Protestant tradition.
Baptists ... "fundie" or not .... don't depict a figure hanging on a
cross, not even in their churches.

Baptists, by tradition, celebrate the life, not the death of Christ
in their rituals.

http://www.teddingtonbaptist.org.uk/tbctour.htm

Eisboch


I had no idea you were a theologian, and empowered to speak for all
the fundie sects. :} If the town I saw the parade in wasn't such a
backwater place, it probably would have a newspaper with photos. But
it doesn't.

What town?

sorry, didn't see your post.



Hehehe. This is funny.

What town, what town, what town?

I told you: a small town in NE Florida.

I believe I mentioned this was in the early 1990 to mid 1990s. I have no
idea whether the same sort of parade is still taking place now, since I
haven't been in that area during the holiday season for many years.

Oh, I get it you want to use your highly refined internet research
skills to see what you can google.

Well, it may not be on google.

Then what? It didn't happen?

What a pair of plonkers the two of you are.

Telephones, Harry. There's bound to be someone down there who remembers
something like men being paraded through town tied to crosses in
celebration of Christmas by a fundamental Baptist sect.

I'd like to know which of the Baptist organizations was doing such a thing.
They are not big on portrayals of Christ on the cross, although the Roman
Catholic church is.

Besides, you said the town 'doesn't' have a newspaper with photos. I assume
you used the present tense because you checked. Well, that's what I want to
do.

I think you're making it all up.
--
John H