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I'm thinking of building a boat.
That is all. :) |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) I think you are the man to do the job |
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On Nov 25, 8:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Well you know how I feel about it. Every man should wet a hull of his own hand in his lifetime. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Check Revell. |
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On Nov 25, 8:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) My kid came in from DC last night, and her bf found me a book called "How to Duild a Tin Canoe" by Rob White. I guess it's a life story, not a set of plans though;) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Way back in the early eighties, I bought plans for a 16 foot 'Friendship Sloop'. I got as far as fabricaring the keel before going out and buying a new 17' Siren. I love wood boats but I'm not prepared to do the upkeep. |
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Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Way back in the early eighties, I bought plans for a 16 foot 'Friendship Sloop'. I got as far as fabricaring the keel before going out and buying a new 17' Siren. I love wood boats but I'm not prepared to do the upkeep. I'm sure this has been posted before, but this fellow built himself a beautiful boat, and his web pages detail the processes nicely: http://www.missrebecca.net/ |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. Eisboch How excellent? And for what? I know a couple of "name brand" n.a.'s. |
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On Nov 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:avsik3liefqlkk4qg0idfd05ghef6lg3ch@4ax .com... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. Eisboch I have access to one or two if you are serious... |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:45 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:10:42 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:avsik3liefqlkk4qg0idfd05ghef6lg3ch@4ax .com... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. I have access to one or two if you are serious... Something occurred to me after we were talking the other night. I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 The second thing that occurred to me is that I have all that pine under the addition (you've seen that mass of wood) - if I had that resawn to 3/8" would that work as planking? Or built it as lap strake? I have access to all kinds of red and white oak for ribs and such. I think I need to give you another call to discuss it. Or maybe this. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=OD18&cat=29 |
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On Nov 25, 11:25 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:10:42 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:avsik3liefqlkk4qg0idfd05ghef6lg3ch@4ax .com... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. I have access to one or two if you are serious... Something occurred to me after we were talking the other night. I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 The second thing that occurred to me is that I have all that pine under the addition (you've seen that mass of wood) - if I had that resawn to 3/8" would that work as planking? Or built it as lap strake? I have access to all kinds of red and white oak for ribs and such. I think I need to give you another call to discuss it. Grrrrrr.... check your e-mail man;) |
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On Nov 25, 11:31 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:45 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:10:42 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:avsik3liefqlkk4qg0idfd05ghef6lg3ch@4ax .com... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. I have access to one or two if you are serious... Something occurred to me after we were talking the other night. I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 The second thing that occurred to me is that I have all that pine under the addition (you've seen that mass of wood) - if I had that resawn to 3/8" would that work as planking? Or built it as lap strake? I have access to all kinds of red and white oak for ribs and such. I think I need to give you another call to discuss it. Or maybe this. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=OD18&cat=29- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - With slightly more effort you can build a wooden boat, that looks like a wooden boat, and holds up like a composite... looks do count;) |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:42:46 -0800 (PST),
wrote: On Nov 25, 11:25 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:10:42 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:avsik3liefqlkk4qg0idfd05ghef6lg3ch@4ax .com... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. I have access to one or two if you are serious... Something occurred to me after we were talking the other night. I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 The second thing that occurred to me is that I have all that pine under the addition (you've seen that mass of wood) - if I had that resawn to 3/8" would that work as planking? Or built it as lap strake? I have access to all kinds of red and white oak for ribs and such. I think I need to give you another call to discuss it. Grrrrrr.... check your e-mail man;) Done and done. Sent a quick reply. Thanks for the advice. I'll call you later this afternoon. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 Check this guy out .... I've been looking at his steel hull trawler plans. http://www.bruceroberts.com/public/H...OAT_DESIGN.htm Eisboch |
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On Nov 25, 11:52 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:42:46 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 11:25 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:10:42 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:avsik3liefqlkk4qg0idfd05ghef6lg3ch@4ax .com... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. I have access to one or two if you are serious... Something occurred to me after we were talking the other night. I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 The second thing that occurred to me is that I have all that pine under the addition (you've seen that mass of wood) - if I had that resawn to 3/8" would that work as planking? Or built it as lap strake? I have access to all kinds of red and white oak for ribs and such. I think I need to give you another call to discuss it. Grrrrrr.... check your e-mail man;) Done and done. Sent a quick reply. Thanks for the advice. I'll call you later this afternoon. Look into the Tolman Skiffs, it took me 1 yr to build my 20' |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:44:43 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . I wonder if there are plans out there for, say, 18' Novi type hull, CC. Something like this only with a after of center outboard well. http://www.bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=PG20&cat=29 Check this guy out .... I've been looking at his steel hull trawler plans. http://www.bruceroberts.com/public/H...OAT_DESIGN.htm I like some of the fishing/work boat plans. Don't know if I want to build in aluminum or steel though. |
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On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg |
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On Nov 25, 12:41 pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg try this one instead: http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/34162...5A1E4F32AD3138 |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:48:03 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Nov 25, 12:41 pm, Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg try this one instead: http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/34162...5A1E4F32AD3138 It appears that the second is twice as manpower intensive as the first. -- John H |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Nov 25, 12:41 pm, Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg try this one instead: http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/34162...5A1E4F32AD3138 That's how mine would come out if I built it myself. Eisboch |
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On Nov 25, 1:01 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:48:03 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 12:41 pm, Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg try this one instead: http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/34162...ages&k=2&d=6D8... It appears that the second is twice as manpower intensive as the first. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But when inished it will ahve the option of double the power and manuverability. Not counting having an automatic bow thruster. |
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On Nov 25, 1:01 pm, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:48:03 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 12:41 pm, Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg try this one instead: http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/34162...ages&k=2&d=6D8... It appears that the second is twice as manpower intensive as the first. -- John H- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - forgot to mention John, but the assembly time is automatically cut in half.... |
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On Nov 25, 1:48 pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 25, 12:41 pm, Tim wrote: On Nov 25, 7:10 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Easily done, but labor intensive, minimal tools and skill required. http://galenfrysinger.us/1/hires/newguinea152.jpg try this one instead: http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/34162...ages&k=2&d=6D8... I reccomended a John Gardner design just for the record although, Tolman skiffs are pretty nifty... |
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JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw How about duplicating what this fellow did? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGVE6...eature=related |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:39:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. Even betterer. http://www.spirainternational.com/study/CalaStudy.pdf |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:16:46 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. Actually I thought I did. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. You are welcome. BTW: 8:15 start for NE......it is now 8:16. I would guess that NE is up by 14 already. ;-) Don't know - I'm watching "Hogfather". Never seen it before. |
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:44:43 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote: Check this guy out .... I've been looking at his steel hull trawler plans. http://www.bruceroberts.com/public/H...OAT_DESIGN.htm ================================================= If you are looking for a Long Range Cruiser (LRC), take a look at the "Diesel Ducks) as well. http://dieselducks.com/ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=diesel+duck There's also a custom Buhler design for sale right now that circumnavigated last year: http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/t...er/005722.html http://www.trawlersandtrawlering.com...dcomplete.html If you want something a little more turnkey, the Norhavn's are well proven: http://www.nordhavn.com/ In older, used boats, the Hatteras 58 LRC is a classic, very nice, and very "shippy" looking: http://www.powercruising.com/hatt58.html The good ones don't stay on the market long. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. How about a good old fashioned 'dory'. Very seaworthy. http://www.doryshop.com/ http://museum.gov.ns.ca/dory/ |
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On Nov 25, 7:57 pm, "Don White" wrote:
How about a good old fashioned 'dory'. Very seaworthy. then again Don, dories are cool, but your statement is subject. I would suppose that a Dory is seaworthy, that is considering worthy of what sea ?: |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) If steel or alumium I can arrange for metal fab and welding. Hmmm.... that gives me an idea. I need to find an excellent naval architect. Eisboch http://www.metalboatkits.com/ There are others. |
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On Nov 25, 7:50 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:39:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. Even betterer. http://www.spirainternational.com/study/CalaStudy.pdf- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are some "designers" ou there who started about 10 years ago, went to every site on the net, copied their plans to cad and then paid folks to be guinea pigs and submit pictures of finished untried boats so they could go "international".. I really hate those guys, in the beginning they were even set up in sections. My plans were on one page, Roberts on another, Bateau (doing the same thing back then) on another. Then after enough complaints, some of them at least changed their sites so the boats were no grouped by the designers the plans were stolen from... humprh....... not mentioning any names here.... |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Nov 25, 7:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: How about a good old fashioned 'dory'. Very seaworthy. then again Don, dories are cool, but your statement is subject. I would suppose that a Dory is seaworthy, that is considering worthy of what sea ?: How about the cold stormy North Atlantic? |
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Don White wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Nov 25, 7:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: How about a good old fashioned 'dory'. Very seaworthy. then again Don, dories are cool, but your statement is subject. I would suppose that a Dory is seaworthy, that is considering worthy of what sea ?: How about the cold stormy North Atlantic? Some posters here must think the old-time whalers chased their prey in trawlers. |
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Don White wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Nov 25, 7:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: How about a good old fashioned 'dory'. Very seaworthy. then again Don, dories are cool, but your statement is subject. I would suppose that a Dory is seaworthy, that is considering worthy of what sea ?: How about the cold stormy North Atlantic? Probably so, Don, that is, as long as I'm not in it! LOL! |
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:47:50 -0800 (PST),
wrote: On Nov 25, 7:50 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:39:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. Even betterer. http://www.spirainternational.com/study/CalaStudy.pdf- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are some "designers" ou there who started about 10 years ago, went to every site on the net, copied their plans to cad and then paid folks to be guinea pigs and submit pictures of finished untried boats so they could go "international".. I really hate those guys, in the beginning they were even set up in sections. My plans were on one page, Roberts on another, Bateau (doing the same thing back then) on another. Then after enough complaints, some of them at least changed their sites so the boats were no grouped by the designers the plans were stolen from... humprh....... not mentioning any names here.... That's ok - I found a betterer one anyway on the Bateau site. |
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On Nov 26, 9:47 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:47:50 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 25, 7:50 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:39:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:25 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. I'm thinking of building a boat. That is all. :) Audio is not the best.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5iCzI9TbIw I'll be danged - you found exactly what I was looking for and you didn't even know what I was looking for. http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_alas.html Mucus Grassy Ass. Even betterer. http://www.spirainternational.com/st...Study.pdf-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are some "designers" ou there who started about 10 years ago, went to every site on the net, copied their plans to cad and then paid folks to be guinea pigs and submit pictures of finished untried boats so they could go "international".. I really hate those guys, in the beginning they were even set up in sections. My plans were on one page, Roberts on another, Bateau (doing the same thing back then) on another. Then after enough complaints, some of them at least changed their sites so the boats were no grouped by the designers the plans were stolen from... humprh....... not mentioning any names here.... That's ok - I found a betterer one anyway on the Bateau site.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Jaques (bateau) is a first class designer. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Nov 25, 7:57 pm, "Don White" wrote: How about a good old fashioned 'dory'. Very seaworthy. then again Don, dories are cool, but your statement is subject. I would suppose that a Dory is seaworthy, that is considering worthy of what sea ?: How about the cold stormy North Atlantic? Some posters here must think the old-time whalers chased their prey in trawlers. Those dories were used fishing for cod, haddock etc all over the Maritimes and Newfoundland. |
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