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John H. November 24th 07 07:53 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:59:11 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:30:00 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"BillP" wrote in message
news:nfi1j.4379$ch.3347@trnddc03...
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Yes...oven cooked is the only way we'd even consider cooking our turkey.

I guess you've never had one slow cooked over lump charcoal and apple
wood.

Fried are nice a juicy and quick. We have done them that way on camping
trips. The oven roasted give you the drippings for excellent gravy, and I
also like to cook them in my offset firebox smoker for 8-9 hours with some
alderwood for smoke. They are all good.


If you ever decide to try one on the grill or smoker, loogypicker and I do
the same thing, and it works. Buy a cheap pack of turkey wings, put in a
cast iron pan, and roast at 350 in the oven for a couple hours. This will
provide a good base for gravy, and it can be done early.




Gosh, I put the whole turkey in a turkey bag in the oven at 350F for
three hours and it is done, wings, legs, breast, everything, and I don't
have to worry about a grill or a smoker outdoors. Is it the Army way to
make more work than need be out of a simple task? Did you have to call
in for a "surge"?


You're not a dip****, Harry. But it seems like you're trying exceptionally
hard to become one.

I'm doubt you would like outdoor cooking. You know best.
--
John H

John H. November 24th 07 07:56 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:52:24 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 24, 5:59 am, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:30:00 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:
"BillP" wrote in message
news:nfi1j.4379$ch.3347@trnddc03...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Yes...oven cooked is the only way we'd even consider cooking our turkey.
I guess you've never had one slow cooked over lump charcoal and apple
wood.
Fried are nice a juicy and quick. We have done them that way on camping
trips. The oven roasted give you the drippings for excellent gravy, and I
also like to cook them in my offset firebox smoker for 8-9 hours with some
alderwood for smoke. They are all good.
If you ever decide to try one on the grill or smoker, loogypicker and I do
the same thing, and it works. Buy a cheap pack of turkey wings, put in a
cast iron pan, and roast at 350 in the oven for a couple hours. This will
provide a good base for gravy, and it can be done early.
Gosh, I put the whole turkey in a turkey bag in the oven at 350F for
three hours and it is done, wings, legs, breast, everything, and I don't
have to worry about a grill or a smoker outdoors. Is it the Army way to
make more work than need be out of a simple task? Did you have to call
in for a "surge"?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry, it's all about taste. If you'd rather not experience anything
than what you are used to, that's your choice.



I like roasted turkey to taste like roasted turkey. If I wanted to eat
oiled turkey, I would. I am not a fan of fried foods, be they potatoes
or turkeys.


We would not want our smoked turkey to taste like roasted turkey. Nor would
we want the rotisserie turkey to taste like roasted turkey. Boston Market
makes a great (I've heard) roasted turkey. I'm glad you like it.
--
John H

John H. November 24th 07 07:59 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:14:40 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:08 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 23, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
JR North wrote:
And, no sweeter sound to the Utility than the hum of your meter spinning
happily away...all day.
JR
JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I was half thinking of trying to cook a deep fried turkey this year,
just for something different.
Until I came upon this, that is ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqemKVTf_38
Eisboch
Sort of confirms that Allstate commercial talking about a dozen or so
houses burning down on holidays due to deep frying turkeys.
I agree with Harry and oven roast ours. Nothing finer than the smell
of turkey cooking in the oven all day.
Household cooking takes up very little electricity. While no device is
foolproof, a modern electric oven on "bake" is pretty close to it. The
question for me remains, though...why would anyone want to take a
relatively healthy food item, such as turkey, and cook in a way that
adds what it doesn't have a lot of naturally, fat and cholesterol.
If done correctly and at the correct temp. you'll hardly notice an
increase in fat and cholesterol. Turkey has a fair percentage of fat
as is, the fat goes to the bottom of the pan, and you baste with it,
what's the difference?
We had a "smoked" turkey one year. It tasted more like ham than turkey,
if memory serves. I like roast turkey, and I expect it to taste like
roast turkey, not oil-soaked turkey or ham turkey.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If it tasted like ham, you did a horrible job smoking it.
A. I don't "baste" with pan drippings.

B. I didn't smoke the ham.

Next?- Hide quoted text -

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Just how many turkeys have you fried? Or is this another one of your
lasily uninformed opinions?--- `

I don't cook food deep fried in fat, grease or oil. I have tasted
oil-boiled turkey cooked by someone who knows how to do it. I didn't
like the taste or texture of the bird.

My opinion is not uninformed. If you cook food boiled in oil, you are
eating oil.

I don't smoke cigarettes or cigars, either.

Life is risky enough without taking really stupid chances with your
"intakes."


I guess that makes you one of those special few that have never had fried
chicken. Damn, that explains it.



If I eat fried chicken, which I rarely do, I first remove the skin. I
don't eat that.


Which violates your statement.

" My opinion is not uninformed. If you cook food boiled in oil, you are
eating oil."

Someone earlier said you were hilarious. They were correct.
--
John H

Reginald P. Smithers III November 24th 07 08:09 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
hk wrote:



Sorry, braindead, as I stated, I rarely eat fried foods. I cannot even
recall how many years ago it was when I last ate fried chicken. But when
I did I removed the skin.


But you did eat a turkey steamed and boiled in a bag. Trust me, the
deep fat fried turkey had substantially less fat than your steamed and
boiled in turkey fat turkey. The oil used in a deep fat fryer is also
healthier than your turkey fat oil.



HK November 24th 07 08:17 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
hk wrote:



Sorry, braindead, as I stated, I rarely eat fried foods. I cannot even
recall how many years ago it was when I last ate fried chicken. But
when I did I removed the skin.


But you did eat a turkey steamed and boiled in a bag. Trust me, the
deep fat fried turkey had substantially less fat than your steamed and
boiled in turkey fat turkey. The oil used in a deep fat fryer is also
healthier than your turkey fat oil.




Sorry, Crap for Brains, but inside the bag was a bed of celery and
carrots, which raised the turkey off the bottom of the bag, and I always
punch a drain hole in the bottom of the bag after the bird is half done
so the water and fat drain into the roasting pan. Didn't your mama teach
you how to cook healthy?

HK November 24th 07 08:17 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:52:24 -0500, HK wrote:



About 30 posts in a row, all of which I am sure are not worth
reading...so...I won't.

Sorry.

John H. November 24th 07 08:38 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:17:48 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:52:24 -0500, HK wrote:



About 30 posts in a row, all of which I am sure are not worth
reading...so...I won't.

Sorry.


Good idea.
--
John H

John H. November 24th 07 08:40 PM

Deep frying a turkey
 
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:58:59 -0500, hk wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:14:40 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:10:08 -0500, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Nov 23, 4:38 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 23, 11:27 am, HK wrote:
JR North wrote:
And, no sweeter sound to the Utility than the hum of your meter spinning
happily away...all day.
JR
JimH wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I was half thinking of trying to cook a deep fried turkey this year,
just for something different.
Until I came upon this, that is ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqemKVTf_38
Eisboch
Sort of confirms that Allstate commercial talking about a dozen or so
houses burning down on holidays due to deep frying turkeys.
I agree with Harry and oven roast ours. Nothing finer than the smell
of turkey cooking in the oven all day.
Household cooking takes up very little electricity. While no device is
foolproof, a modern electric oven on "bake" is pretty close to it. The
question for me remains, though...why would anyone want to take a
relatively healthy food item, such as turkey, and cook in a way that
adds what it doesn't have a lot of naturally, fat and cholesterol.
If done correctly and at the correct temp. you'll hardly notice an
increase in fat and cholesterol. Turkey has a fair percentage of fat
as is, the fat goes to the bottom of the pan, and you baste with it,
what's the difference?
We had a "smoked" turkey one year. It tasted more like ham than turkey,
if memory serves. I like roast turkey, and I expect it to taste like
roast turkey, not oil-soaked turkey or ham turkey.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
If it tasted like ham, you did a horrible job smoking it.
A. I don't "baste" with pan drippings.

B. I didn't smoke the ham.

Next?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Just how many turkeys have you fried? Or is this another one of your
lasily uninformed opinions?--- `
I don't cook food deep fried in fat, grease or oil. I have tasted
oil-boiled turkey cooked by someone who knows how to do it. I didn't
like the taste or texture of the bird.

My opinion is not uninformed. If you cook food boiled in oil, you are
eating oil.

I don't smoke cigarettes or cigars, either.

Life is risky enough without taking really stupid chances with your
"intakes."
I guess that makes you one of those special few that have never had fried
chicken. Damn, that explains it.

If I eat fried chicken, which I rarely do, I first remove the skin. I
don't eat that.


Which violates your statement.

" My opinion is not uninformed. If you cook food boiled in oil, you are
eating oil."

Someone earlier said you were hilarious. They were correct.




Sorry, braindead, as I stated, I rarely eat fried foods. I cannot even
recall how many years ago it was when I last ate fried chicken. But when
I did I removed the skin.


Does 'hk' deserve the same thoughtful response as 'HK' would?
--
John H

BillP November 25th 07 01:15 AM

Deep frying a turkey
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


Sorry, braindead, as I stated, I rarely eat fried foods. I cannot even
recall how many years ago it was when I last ate fried chicken. But when I
did I removed the skin.


How in the hell did you get in *the shape* you are without eating fried
foods?



HK November 25th 07 01:26 AM

Deep frying a turkey
 
BillP wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Sorry, braindead, as I stated, I rarely eat fried foods. I cannot even
recall how many years ago it was when I last ate fried chicken. But when I
did I removed the skin.


How in the hell did you get in *the shape* you are without eating fried
foods?



How would you know what shape I am in?


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