On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:49:27 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I suppose if we make the penalties against the western economies strong
enough (and crash them) the resulting nuclear war will reverse the
warming trend and cut way back on that pesky population growth.

That is really the issue - it's another attempt to redistribute income
only on an internationlist scale.

If that really is the issue, you are looking to blame the wrong people.
It isn't the environmentalists, it's the capitalists. If we are buying
all the out-sourced, pollution intensive products of the eastern
economies, who's pollution is it really? The Chinese, or ours? Part of
the "attractiveness" of out-sourcing is, in addition to the dollar a day
wages, companies don't have to put up with our pesky pollution laws.

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:49:27 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



That is really the issue - it's another attempt to redistribute income
only on an internationlist scale.

If that really is the issue, you are looking to blame the wrong people.
It isn't the environmentalists, it's the capitalists. If we are buying
all the out-sourced, pollution intensive products of the eastern
economies, who's pollution is it really? The Chinese, or ours? Part of
the "attractiveness" of out-sourcing is, in addition to the dollar a day
wages, companies don't have to put up with our pesky pollution laws.


If you really get down to it, it's not the environmentalists nor the
capitalists. It's the consumer ... looking for the lowest prices for
products and the highest return on their stock market investments.

Eisboch

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:49:27 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


That is really the issue - it's another attempt to redistribute income
only on an internationlist scale.
If that really is the issue, you are looking to blame the wrong people.
It isn't the environmentalists, it's the capitalists. If we are buying
all the out-sourced, pollution intensive products of the eastern
economies, who's pollution is it really? The Chinese, or ours? Part of
the "attractiveness" of out-sourcing is, in addition to the dollar a day
wages, companies don't have to put up with our pesky pollution laws.


If you really get down to it, it's not the environmentalists nor the
capitalists. It's the consumer ... looking for the lowest prices for
products and the highest return on their stock market investments.

Eisboch



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Biting their noses to spite their faces.

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:49:27 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


That is really the issue - it's another attempt to redistribute income
only on an internationlist scale.
If that really is the issue, you are looking to blame the wrong people.
It isn't the environmentalists, it's the capitalists. If we are buying
all the out-sourced, pollution intensive products of the eastern
economies, who's pollution is it really? The Chinese, or ours? Part of
the "attractiveness" of out-sourcing is, in addition to the dollar a day
wages, companies don't have to put up with our pesky pollution laws.


If you really get down to it, it's not the environmentalists nor the
capitalists. It's the consumer ... looking for the lowest prices for
products and the highest return on their stock market investments.

Eisboch



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Biting their noses to spite their faces.


Yup. It's a catch 22. I suppose you could impose high tariffs on imported
products but that opens up another can of worms. Meanwhile, the Chinese
factory worker is delighting in his and his country's newfound economic
success, very happy to be working for compensation and in conditions that we
consider slavery.

Eisboch

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Biting their noses to spite their faces.


Yup. It's a catch 22. I suppose you could impose high tariffs on
imported products but that opens up another can of worms. Meanwhile, the
Chinese factory worker is delighting in his and his country's newfound
economic success, very happy to be working for compensation and in
conditions that we consider slavery.

Eisboch


Harry .... just thought of something that would keep you busy for a couple
of decades.

Go unionize China.

Eisboch

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Biting their noses to spite their faces.

Yup. It's a catch 22. I suppose you could impose high tariffs on
imported products but that opens up another can of worms. Meanwhile, the
Chinese factory worker is delighting in his and his country's newfound
economic success, very happy to be working for compensation and in
conditions that we consider slavery.

Eisboch


Harry .... just thought of something that would keep you busy for a couple
of decades.

Go unionize China.

Eisboch




It would be more fun to see all the multi-national corporationists and
Wall Streeters rounded up and shot.

On Nov 23, 8:09 am, HK wrote:
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Biting their noses to spite their faces.

Yup. It's a catch 22. I suppose you could impose high tariffs on
imported products but that opens up another can of worms. Meanwhile, the
Chinese factory worker is delighting in his and his country's newfound
economic success, very happy to be working for compensation and in
conditions that we consider slavery.

Eisboch

Harry .... just thought of something that would keep you busy for a couple
of decades.

Go unionize China.

Eisboch

It would be more fun to see all the multi-national corporationists and
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Better to shoot all those union slobs who take your money, make you
fight with management, sell you out, and leave you cold when the shop
shuts down.

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Biting their noses to spite their faces.

Yup. It's a catch 22. I suppose you could impose high tariffs on
imported products but that opens up another can of worms. Meanwhile, the
Chinese factory worker is delighting in his and his country's newfound
economic success, very happy to be working for compensation and in
conditions that we consider slavery.

Eisboch


Harry .... just thought of something that would keep you busy for a couple
of decades.

Go unionize China.

Eisboch




It would be more fun to see all the multi-national corporationists and
Wall Streeters rounded up and shot.

hmmm, the French Revolution? Russia circa. 1917?

Could you pull the trigger, Harry?

Echos of distant drums....

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:32 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
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"HK" wrote in message
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Biting their noses to spite their faces.

Yup. It's a catch 22. I suppose you could impose high tariffs on
imported products but that opens up another can of worms. Meanwhile, the
Chinese factory worker is delighting in his and his country's newfound
economic success, very happy to be working for compensation and in
conditions that we consider slavery.

Eisboch


Harry .... just thought of something that would keep you busy for a couple
of decades.

Go unionize China.

Eisboch




It would be more fun to see all the multi-national corporationists and
Wall Streeters rounded up and shot.

Profound, Harry.

Multi-national corporations should be done away with. You are so
enlightening, Harry.
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John H

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:00:32 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Harry .... just thought of something that would keep you busy for a
couple of decades.

Go unionize China.

I believe China already is unionized, but the union is controlled by the
ruling communist party. Hell, even Walmart is unionized over there.

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