"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:14:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Please note how many of these fine scientists were members of the IPCC
panel and disagreed with it's conclusions.

Some have had to sue, or threaten to sue, to have their names removed from
the report.

BillP wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:14:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Please note how many of these fine scientists were members of the IPCC
panel and disagreed with it's conclusions.

Some have had to sue, or threaten to sue, to have their names removed from
the report.




Amazing how almost everyone in denial about our contribution to "global
warming" spouts the same right-wing crapola. Obviously science denial is
a right-wing kind of thing.

On Nov 22, 11:17�am, HK wrote:
BillP wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:14:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Please note how many of these fine scientists were members of the IPCC
panel and disagreed with it's conclusions.

Some have had to sue, or threaten to sue, to have their names removed from
the report.

Amazing how almost everyone in denial about our contribution to "global
warming" spouts the same right-wing crapola. Obviously science denial is
a right-wing kind of thing.

Harry, I've notived that it sems to me that any comment that you may
disagree with, you tend to lable as "right-wing". Which is neither
true, nor necessary.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:05:11 -0500, hk wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Nov 22, 11:17�am, HK wrote:
BillP wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:14:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Please note how many of these fine scientists were members of the IPCC
panel and disagreed with it's conclusions.
Some have had to sue, or threaten to sue, to have their names removed from
the report.
Amazing how almost everyone in denial about our contribution to "global
warming" spouts the same right-wing crapola. Obviously science denial is
a right-wing kind of thing.

Harry, I've notived that it sems to me that any comment that you may
disagree with, you tend to lable as "right-wing". Which is neither
true, nor necessary.

Almost everyone who denies science is on the right.

Let me see - real scientists who are in serious doubt aren't really
scientists? Put another way - your assertion is that all those real
scientists who are advising caution and presenting evidence that
directly refutes the current global warming hysteria are right wing
extremists? You know - those guys who invented the science?

Including those on the IPCC who are now running as far and as fast as
they can from the IPCC report? Or those who were deliberately
misquoted by Al Gore and the IPCC panel?

Come on Harry - get informed, just don't follow along with the
rhetoric and disinformation campaign led by the Goracle.

Remember - the first and most important propaganda principle is for a
problem to be perceived - as in propaganda evoking audience interest
transmitted through attention-getting communications.

And as I'm sure you know, being a Union type, the second most
important principle of propaganda is that it must offer some form of
action or diversion, or both.

"An Inconvenient Truth" comes immediately to mind as fitting both of
those important criteria.

I would suggest that instead of immediately demonizing the "right",
you might actually want to figure out why it is that some of these
very real and very important scientists are saying what they are
saying.

By the way, denunciation of any group or principle is "hate speech" -
which I'm sure you would never participate in.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


By the way, denunciation of any group or principle is "hate speech" -
which I'm sure you would never participate in.

SWS,
Nice to meet you, are you new to the group?

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:34:16 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


By the way, denunciation of any group or principle is "hate speech" -
which I'm sure you would never participate in.

SWS,
Nice to meet you, are you new to the group?

Why yes - yes I am.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:34:16 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


By the way, denunciation of any group or principle is "hate speech" -
which I'm sure you would never participate in.

SWS,
Nice to meet you, are you new to the group?

LMAO, truthfully. That was funny!
--
John H

John H. wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:34:16 -0500, Reginald Smithers III
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

By the way, denunciation of any group or principle is "hate speech" -
which I'm sure you would never participate in.
SWS,
Nice to meet you, are you new to the group?

LMAO, truthfully. That was funny!

Are you talking about SWS's comment?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:05:11 -0500, hk wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Nov 22, 11:17�am, HK wrote:
BillP wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:14:47 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Please note how many of these fine scientists were members of the IPCC
panel and disagreed with it's conclusions.
Some have had to sue, or threaten to sue, to have their names removed from
the report.
Amazing how almost everyone in denial about our contribution to "global
warming" spouts the same right-wing crapola. Obviously science denial is
a right-wing kind of thing.
Harry, I've notived that it sems to me that any comment that you may
disagree with, you tend to lable as "right-wing". Which is neither
true, nor necessary.
Almost everyone who denies science is on the right.

Let me see - real scientists who are in serious doubt aren't really
scientists? Put another way - your assertion is that all those real
scientists who are advising caution and presenting evidence that
directly refutes the current global warming hysteria are right wing
extremists? You know - those guys who invented the science?

Including those on the IPCC who are now running as far and as fast as
they can from the IPCC report? Or those who were deliberately
misquoted by Al Gore and the IPCC panel?

Come on Harry - get informed, just don't follow along with the
rhetoric and disinformation campaign led by the Goracle.

Remember - the first and most important propaganda principle is for a
problem to be perceived - as in propaganda evoking audience interest
transmitted through attention-getting communications.

And as I'm sure you know, being a Union type, the second most
important principle of propaganda is that it must offer some form of
action or diversion, or both.

"An Inconvenient Truth" comes immediately to mind as fitting both of
those important criteria.

I would suggest that instead of immediately demonizing the "right",
you might actually want to figure out why it is that some of these
very real and very important scientists are saying what they are
saying.

By the way, denunciation of any group or principle is "hate speech" -
which I'm sure you would never participate in.


Almost everyone who denies science is on the right. Check it out. Count
'em up. It's not just this issue.

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:05:11 -0500, hk wrote:
Almost everyone who denies science is on the right.


Let me see - real scientists who are in serious doubt aren't really
scientists? Put another way - your assertion is that all those real
scientists who are advising caution and presenting evidence that
directly refutes the current global warming hysteria are right wing
extremists? You know - those guys who invented the science?

Come on Harry - get informed, just don't follow along with the
rhetoric and disinformation campaign led by the Goracle.

Remember - the first and most important propaganda principle is for a
problem to be perceived - as in propaganda evoking audience interest
transmitted through attention-getting communications.

I would suggest that instead of immediately demonizing the "right",
you might actually want to figure out why it is that some of these
very real and very important scientists are saying what they are
saying.


Almost everyone who denies science is on the right. Check it out. Count
'em up. It's not just this issue.


Tom's representative list of scientists are "denying" science?

It will be interesting so see what happens over the next 5-10 years. From
what I've read on the subject even the most ardent advocates of mankind
being responsible for a global warming trend agree that it can't be reversed
in that short of a time frame.

My hunch is that in about 5 years new data will cause the whole debate to go
away, only to be replaced by a growing concern of a coming mini Ice Age
cycle.

Remember all the dire predictions of Y2K?

Eisboch