On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:14:01 -0000, Solomon_Man
wrote:

1) Has anyone online here ever went through this process and gotten a
title?
2) What is the rough value of a running (wishful thinking) 35Hp
Evinrude outboard motor from the 1950s worth? What are parts worth?
Whats the big deal on 50 yr old motors, I understand the legalities
behind titles and such but they have not been registered in 30 yrs.
3) What is a typical outboard motor (25-45 Hp), running,used, not
older then 20 yrs, with title going for today?
4) What would you do in this situation?

I'm sort of intrigued by the whole outboard title thing - are you sure
outboards are titled in Ohio? That doens't make any sense.

With respect to value, it's all relative. If the engines are rare
examples of outboards for their era, they are worth what ever a
collector will pay for them.

As operating engines for use, maybe $50 each - not much more than that
certainly. Models 20 years old or there abouts - maybe $100/125 in
perfect running condition.

As parts - probably not much as not many engines of that age are still
running requiring parts.

A certain member of this august body excepted. :)

On Nov 13, 6:37 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:14:01 -0000, Solomon_Man
wrote:

1) Has anyone online here ever went through this process and gotten a
title?
2) What is the rough value of a running (wishful thinking) 35Hp
Evinrude outboard motor from the 1950s worth? What are parts worth?
Whats the big deal on 50 yr old motors, I understand the legalities
behind titles and such but they have not been registered in 30 yrs.
3) What is a typical outboard motor (25-45 Hp), running,used, not
older then 20 yrs, with title going for today?
4) What would you do in this situation?

I'm sort of intrigued by the whole outboard title thing - are you sure
outboards are titled in Ohio? That doens't make any sense.

With respect to value, it's all relative. If the engines are rare
examples of outboards for their era, they are worth what ever a
collector will pay for them.

As operating engines for use, maybe $50 each - not much more than that
certainly. Models 20 years old or there abouts - maybe $100/125 in
perfect running condition.

As parts - probably not much as not many engines of that age are still
running requiring parts.

A certain member of this august body excepted. :)

All,
Here is the rules for Ohio in a nice flowchart;

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/tabid/2782/default.aspx

basically anything greater or equal to 10 Hp needs a title whether
outboard or not.

I am intrigued by the prices you quote. To be honest I have only been
in a marina sales floor once in my entire life and that was to pay
launch fee at the local marina for a friends boat. Since that marina
was bought out by the City of Toledo for Expansion plans of our
downtown, I know of no others. I thought about this last night on the
way home from work maybe I need to price out a used motor somewhere
but where?

Would a marina have used outboards for sale? Is this a common
occurence?

Basically I am in a rock and a hard place. I can not legally get rid
of them responsibly. I am a stubborn old fool and will end up probably
doing both one and two choices I mentioned previously to get the title
to just get rid of all of them. This does not solve the problem of the
need for a motor for the one boat. In all reality, I would love to
have a backup smaller motor so that I can go in lakes that require
10 HP in our state specifically around the Hocking Hills Region as I
spend a week each year there.

Anyways if I saved up to close to $600 for a motor you would think I
should be able to get a decent running outboard in the neighborhood of
25-40 Hp? Correct?

Thanks,
Chris

On Nov 14, 9:56 am, Solomon_Man wrote:
On Nov 13, 6:37 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:





On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:14:01 -0000, Solomon_Man
wrote:

1) Has anyone online here ever went through this process and gotten a
title?
2) What is the rough value of a running (wishful thinking) 35Hp
Evinrude outboard motor from the 1950s worth? What are parts worth?
Whats the big deal on 50 yr old motors, I understand the legalities
behind titles and such but they have not been registered in 30 yrs.
3) What is a typical outboard motor (25-45 Hp), running,used, not
older then 20 yrs, with title going for today?
4) What would you do in this situation?

I'm sort of intrigued by the whole outboard title thing - are you sure
outboards are titled in Ohio? That doens't make any sense.

With respect to value, it's all relative. If the engines are rare
examples of outboards for their era, they are worth what ever a
collector will pay for them.

As operating engines for use, maybe $50 each - not much more than that
certainly. Models 20 years old or there abouts - maybe $100/125 in
perfect running condition.

As parts - probably not much as not many engines of that age are still
running requiring parts.

A certain member of this august body excepted. :)

All,
Here is the rules for Ohio in a nice flowchart;

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/tabid/2782/default.aspx

basically anything greater or equal to 10 Hp needs a title whether
outboard or not.

I am intrigued by the prices you quote. To be honest I have only been
in a marina sales floor once in my entire life and that was to pay
launch fee at the local marina for a friends boat. Since that marina
was bought out by the City of Toledo for Expansion plans of our
downtown, I know of no others. I thought about this last night on the
way home from work maybe I need to price out a used motor somewhere
but where?

Would a marina have used outboards for sale? Is this a common
occurence?

Basically I am in a rock and a hard place. I can not legally get rid
of them responsibly. I am a stubborn old fool and will end up probably
doing both one and two choices I mentioned previously to get the title
to just get rid of all of them. This does not solve the problem of the
need for a motor for the one boat. In all reality, I would love to
have a backup smaller motor so that I can go in lakes that require
10 HP in our state specifically around the Hocking Hills Region as I
spend a week each year there.

Anyways if I saved up to close to $600 for a motor you would think I
should be able to get a decent running outboard in the neighborhood of
25-40 Hp? Correct?

Thanks,
Chris- Hide quoted text -

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One more thing,

Is there any good marinas online so I could browse?

Distance is usually not a problem as I end up traveling quite a bit
for work, school, and family.

Thanks,
Chris

On Nov 14, 10:07 am, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:59:12 -0000, Solomon_Man
wrote:

Distance is usually not a problem as I end up traveling quite a bit
for work, school, and family.

Take those outboards you want to sell over to a state where they don't
title them

The above is definetly a option as I live (within 60 miles) on the
edge two other states. Not to mention I have family and friends all
over the place. I will start looking at their laws. I think I will try
and contact the original owners first as I have nothing to hide and
may be my quickest way to a Ohio Title. I think this wishy washy
response from the state is a little to much.

Anyways, I emailed a couple Ohio marinas that I recognize on my
travels for some price expectations. We will see nothing as of yet. If
I get some time this afternoon I will do some online browsing to see
what I can find.

I did call my attorney, do not worry it costs me nothing as I have
legal console thru work, and I found out the below;

"1) send to the previous owner, by certified letter, to each of the
addresses given in the title search
2) if no response is received in 45 days, mail return letters and/or
certified statement that the letters were sent to the previous
owners.
3) Supposedly they will send a letter of authority to have the titles
placed in my name which will get me a title.
4) If I get lucky and one of the owners are still living at the
address given try and get them to sign the title over to me. "

is not a guarantee of a title. It has to go through some state
authority person above most of the people I have already dealt with.
One thing is nice I am glad I started this whole process now in the
off season instead on early spring when I hope to take the motors
out.

I should receive the official response from the state by early next
week. I will follow all their requirements with hopefully a few other
options in my pocket.

Also anybody have any suggestions for any good marinas in Ohio,
Michigan, Indiana, Northern New York Area, and Chicago? I would be
interested in any good online sites as well, even if they are on the
other side of the U.S. as long as they are willing to ship.

Thanks,
Chris

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:56:43 -0000, Solomon_Man
wrote:

Anyways if I saved up to close to $600 for a motor you would think I
should be able to get a decent running outboard in the neighborhood of
25-40 Hp? Correct?

If you take your time and look, yeah - that's doable. You'd have an
engine 10 to 12 years old in decent shape - might need a little work
to get running properly.

On Nov 14, 3:41 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:56:43 -0000, Solomon_Man
wrote:

Anyways if I saved up to close to $600 for a motor you would think I
should be able to get a decent running outboard in the neighborhood of
25-40 Hp? Correct?

If you take your time and look, yeah - that's doable. You'd have an
engine 10 to 12 years old in decent shape - might need a little work
to get running properly.

Well I think getting a 10Hp decent runner should be no problem at a
decent price. I probably pick one of these up in the coming weeks. I
have found plenty online.

If I get to the 20-40Hp range the prices jump real quick. I will keep
looking.

Any Suggestions on Marinas are greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the suggestions I will keep looking and keep you all
posted,
Chris