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wrote in message

I notice your head is still firmly planted in the sand!

Do The Math
1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
2- All atmospheric CO2 from all sources is less than (three hundredths) .03
of the total of all greenhouse gases.
3- All man made atmospheric CO2 is less than (nine ten thousandths) .0009 of
all greenhouse gases.
4- All US produced atmospheric CO2 is less than (three hundred twenty four
millionths) .000324 of all greenhouse gases.
5- The Kyoto Protocol requires the US to reduce our atmospheric CO2
production by (four hundred eighty six ten millionths) .0000486 of all
greenhouse gases.
6- This US CO2 reduction is equivalent to reducing a full to the brim
standard US bathtub by 3/4 of a teaspoon. A ratio of 1 to 20,576.

A- It is mathematically unlikely that atmospheric CO2 is the cause of global
warming.
B- It is mathematically improbable that MAN MADE atmospheric CO2 causes
global warming.
C- It is mathematically impossible that US PRODUCED atmospheric CO2 is a
cause of global warming.
D- It is mathematically 20,576 times MORE IMPOSSIBLE that reducing US
produced atmospheric CO2 will have ANY IMPACT at all on global warming.

Do you want to raise all US prices by 32%, raise unemployment by 300%, and
give up US sovereignty to the United Nations in order to remove 3/4 teaspoon
of water from a full bathtub?

Cutting US CO2 production to the levels required by the Kyoto Protocols
results in NO STATISTICAL IMPACT on total atmospheric CO2 and NO PRACTICAL
IMPACT on global warming.

CONCLUSION

There can be only 3 logical reasons why some people are man-made global
warming proponents.
They are either:

1- Ignorant: They don't know the truth.
2- Delusional: They know the truth but refuse to believe it.
3- Liars: They know the truth and believe it, but they promote the lie for
personal benefit.

The world is warming but not because of man's activity.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Ahh, but Gore typically cites and references others, pedigreed experts, if
you will, in pulling together his materials. The weather channel guy sets
himself up as an expert. He has no credentials. In fact, I spent about two
minutes researching him, and while I may have missed something, it doesn't
seem as if he has even a bachelor's degree...in anything.

I also quickly searched. No evidence other than he attended college.


He's not an expert, and no one would accept his credentials. Except, of
course, those who cite him to support their anti-global warming nonsense.

It's a time honored spin technique ... you know .... like stating as fact
that GWB's grandpa bought his university degrees. Say it often enough and
some will assume it's true.

Eisboch

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
snip...
Some years ago - cold war, maybe early '70's - I read a Popular
Mechanics article about how we could destroy Ruskie naval
capabilities. The plan was simple. Some number of C-130's are filled
with pulverized coal dust. The dust is dropped over the arctic and
antarctic ice sheets. As the blackened ice ABSORBS the sun's energy,
it melts. Sea levels rise, and the Ruskie naval ports become useless.
Okay, that's one side of the issue - the wrong side for now, since the
ice is already melting, and the Ruskies aren't a threat..
Where I need your help is to come up with something to drop from the
C-130's that will REFLECT the sun's energy. This will halt the
warming, and get the ice freezing up again.
I thought of a few things that might work, like Johnson & Johnson baby
powder, Christmas tree foil, etc., and looked in my tackle box - which
has a lot of reflective lures - for ideas on materials, but really
couldn't come up with anything with which I was confident.
I admit I'm not an engineer, but I can caulk.
Coal dust is cheap and works. In its own dark way it's "green" too,
being naturally occurring. Try to find its counterpart.
Now, listen up.
You guys come up with the reflective material, get all the logistics
worked out with SAC, and launch operation "Freeze."
snip
--Vic

Good idea... we'll build a reflectivecanopy over all the developed areas of
the world...just imagine, no more rain in the cities...the water would be
collected 100 feet above the ground and channeled directly to the sewers.

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On Nov 12, 9:14 am, "BillP" wrote:
wrote in message

I notice your head is still firmly planted in the sand!

Do The Math
1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
2- All atmospheric CO2 from all sources is less than (three hundredths) .03
of the total of all greenhouse gases.
3- All man made atmospheric CO2 is less than (nine ten thousandths) .0009 of
all greenhouse gases.
4- All US produced atmospheric CO2 is less than (three hundred twenty four
millionths) .000324 of all greenhouse gases.
5- The Kyoto Protocol requires the US to reduce our atmospheric CO2
production by (four hundred eighty six ten millionths) .0000486 of all
greenhouse gases.
6- This US CO2 reduction is equivalent to reducing a full to the brim
standard US bathtub by 3/4 of a teaspoon. A ratio of 1 to 20,576.

A- It is mathematically unlikely that atmospheric CO2 is the cause of global
warming.
B- It is mathematically improbable that MAN MADE atmospheric CO2 causes
global warming.
C- It is mathematically impossible that US PRODUCED atmospheric CO2 is a
cause of global warming.
D- It is mathematically 20,576 times MORE IMPOSSIBLE that reducing US
produced atmospheric CO2 will have ANY IMPACT at all on global warming.

Do you want to raise all US prices by 32%, raise unemployment by 300%, and
give up US sovereignty to the United Nations in order to remove 3/4 teaspoon
of water from a full bathtub?

Cutting US CO2 production to the levels required by the Kyoto Protocols
results in NO STATISTICAL IMPACT on total atmospheric CO2 and NO PRACTICAL
IMPACT on global warming.

CONCLUSION

There can be only 3 logical reasons why some people are man-made global
warming proponents.
They are either:

1- Ignorant: They don't know the truth.
2- Delusional: They know the truth but refuse to believe it.
3- Liars: They know the truth and believe it, but they promote the lie for
personal benefit.

The world is warming but not because of man's activity.

Yeah, sure, a very few scientists, and only one's with an agenda, come
up with that drivel, while thousands upon thousands (and yes, some of
them have an agenda too) have good hard data to show otherwise. People
like you and Shortwave prefer to stick your heads in the sand and
ignore that data, and will only look at data that you THINK helps make
your point.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Nov 12, 9:14 am, "BillP" wrote:
wrote in message

I notice your head is still firmly planted in the sand!

Do The Math
1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
2- All atmospheric CO2 from all sources is less than (three hundredths)
.03
of the total of all greenhouse gases.
3- All man made atmospheric CO2 is less than (nine ten thousandths) .0009
of
all greenhouse gases.
4- All US produced atmospheric CO2 is less than (three hundred twenty
four
millionths) .000324 of all greenhouse gases.
5- The Kyoto Protocol requires the US to reduce our atmospheric CO2
production by (four hundred eighty six ten millionths) .0000486 of all
greenhouse gases.
6- This US CO2 reduction is equivalent to reducing a full to the brim
standard US bathtub by 3/4 of a teaspoon. A ratio of 1 to 20,576.

A- It is mathematically unlikely that atmospheric CO2 is the cause of
global
warming.
B- It is mathematically improbable that MAN MADE atmospheric CO2 causes
global warming.
C- It is mathematically impossible that US PRODUCED atmospheric CO2 is a
cause of global warming.
D- It is mathematically 20,576 times MORE IMPOSSIBLE that reducing US
produced atmospheric CO2 will have ANY IMPACT at all on global warming.

Do you want to raise all US prices by 32%, raise unemployment by 300%,
and
give up US sovereignty to the United Nations in order to remove 3/4
teaspoon
of water from a full bathtub?

Cutting US CO2 production to the levels required by the Kyoto Protocols
results in NO STATISTICAL IMPACT on total atmospheric CO2 and NO
PRACTICAL
IMPACT on global warming.

CONCLUSION

There can be only 3 logical reasons why some people are man-made global
warming proponents.
They are either:

1- Ignorant: They don't know the truth.
2- Delusional: They know the truth but refuse to believe it.
3- Liars: They know the truth and believe it, but they promote the lie
for
personal benefit.

The world is warming but not because of man's activity.

Yeah, sure, a very few scientists, and only one's with an agenda, come
up with that drivel, while thousands upon thousands (and yes, some of
them have an agenda too) have good hard data to show otherwise. People
like you and Shortwave prefer to stick your heads in the sand and
ignore that data, and will only look at data that you THINK helps make
your point.


I gave you the data- prove any of it wrong.

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:14:29 GMT, BillP penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
wrote in message
|
| I notice your head is still firmly planted in the sand!
|
|Do The Math
|1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
|Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
|2- All atmospheric CO2 from all sources is less than (three hundredths) .03
|of the total of all greenhouse gases.
|3- All man made atmospheric CO2 is less than (nine ten thousandths) .0009 of
|all greenhouse gases.
|4- All US produced atmospheric CO2 is less than (three hundred twenty four
|millionths) .000324 of all greenhouse gases.
|5- The Kyoto Protocol requires the US to reduce our atmospheric CO2
|production by (four hundred eighty six ten millionths) .0000486 of all
|greenhouse gases.
|6- This US CO2 reduction is equivalent to reducing a full to the brim
|standard US bathtub by 3/4 of a teaspoon. A ratio of 1 to 20,576.
|
|A- It is mathematically unlikely that atmospheric CO2 is the cause of global
|warming.
|B- It is mathematically improbable that MAN MADE atmospheric CO2 causes
|global warming.
|C- It is mathematically impossible that US PRODUCED atmospheric CO2 is a
|cause of global warming.
|D- It is mathematically 20,576 times MORE IMPOSSIBLE that reducing US
|produced atmospheric CO2 will have ANY IMPACT at all on global warming.
|
|Do you want to raise all US prices by 32%, raise unemployment by 300%, and
|give up US sovereignty to the United Nations in order to remove 3/4 teaspoon
|of water from a full bathtub?
|
|Cutting US CO2 production to the levels required by the Kyoto Protocols
|results in NO STATISTICAL IMPACT on total atmospheric CO2 and NO PRACTICAL
|IMPACT on global warming.
|
|CONCLUSION
|
|There can be only 3 logical reasons why some people are man-made global
|warming proponents.
|They are either:
|
|1- Ignorant: They don't know the truth.
|2- Delusional: They know the truth but refuse to believe it.
|3- Liars: They know the truth and believe it, but they promote the lie for
|personal benefit.
|
|The world is warming but not because of man's activity.

Wonderful textbook example of both hasty generalization and false
dilemma. Don't they teach logic in schools any more?

Trivial Pursuit:
If I believe that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other
natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of
pirates since the 1800s, of what religion am I a member?

--

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:14:29 GMT, BillP penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
wrote in message
|
| I notice your head is still firmly planted in the sand!
|
|Do The Math
|1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
|Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
|2- All atmospheric CO2 from all sources is less than (three hundredths)
.03
|of the total of all greenhouse gases.
|3- All man made atmospheric CO2 is less than (nine ten thousandths) .0009
of
|all greenhouse gases.
|4- All US produced atmospheric CO2 is less than (three hundred twenty
four
|millionths) .000324 of all greenhouse gases.
|5- The Kyoto Protocol requires the US to reduce our atmospheric CO2
|production by (four hundred eighty six ten millionths) .0000486 of all
|greenhouse gases.
|6- This US CO2 reduction is equivalent to reducing a full to the brim
|standard US bathtub by 3/4 of a teaspoon. A ratio of 1 to 20,576.
|
|A- It is mathematically unlikely that atmospheric CO2 is the cause of
global
|warming.
|B- It is mathematically improbable that MAN MADE atmospheric CO2 causes
|global warming.
|C- It is mathematically impossible that US PRODUCED atmospheric CO2 is a
|cause of global warming.
|D- It is mathematically 20,576 times MORE IMPOSSIBLE that reducing US
|produced atmospheric CO2 will have ANY IMPACT at all on global warming.
|
|Do you want to raise all US prices by 32%, raise unemployment by 300%,
and
|give up US sovereignty to the United Nations in order to remove 3/4
teaspoon
|of water from a full bathtub?
|
|Cutting US CO2 production to the levels required by the Kyoto Protocols
|results in NO STATISTICAL IMPACT on total atmospheric CO2 and NO
PRACTICAL
|IMPACT on global warming.
|
|CONCLUSION
|
|There can be only 3 logical reasons why some people are man-made global
|warming proponents.
|They are either:
|
|1- Ignorant: They don't know the truth.
|2- Delusional: They know the truth but refuse to believe it.
|3- Liars: They know the truth and believe it, but they promote the lie
for
|personal benefit.
|
|The world is warming but not because of man's activity.

Wonderful textbook example of both hasty generalization and false
dilemma. Don't they teach logic in schools any more?

Trivial Pursuit:
If I believe that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other
natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of
pirates since the 1800s, of what religion am I a member?

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in

Wonderful textbook example of both hasty generalization and false
dilemma. Don't they teach logic in schools any more?

My statement is logical, sorry if that doesn't fit your religion.

Lets make it easy for you- we'll take one at a time.


1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
Water Vapor is the major component (95%).

Is this a true or false statement ?

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:44:15 GMT, BillP penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|"Gene Kearns" wrote in
|
| Wonderful textbook example of both hasty generalization and false
| dilemma. Don't they teach logic in schools any more?
|
|My statement is logical, sorry if that doesn't fit your religion.
|
|Lets make it easy for you- we'll take one at a time.
|
|
|1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
|Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
|
|Is this a true or false statement ?
|

Do you accept the entire FAQ document published by NOAA, that suggests
that CO2 is the second most abundant greenhouse gas, as a factual
document?

--

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:44:15 GMT, BillP penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|"Gene Kearns" wrote in
|
| Wonderful textbook example of both hasty generalization and false
| dilemma. Don't they teach logic in schools any more?
|
|My statement is logical, sorry if that doesn't fit your religion.
|
|Lets make it easy for you- we'll take one at a time.
|
|
|1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
|Water Vapor is the major component (95%).
|
|Is this a true or false statement ?
|

Do you accept the entire FAQ document published by NOAA, that suggests
that CO2 is the second most abundant greenhouse gas, as a factual
document?


Yes I agree that CO2 (approx 3.5% of all greenhouse gases) is the second
most abundant greenhouse gas behind water vapor, but back to my question-

1- Atmospheric CO2 is not the only, not even the primary greenhouse gas.
|Water Vapor is the major component (95%).

True or false?