wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP


Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP
Duo Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of
Photoshop CS3 running on an older Mac. I might be buying a new
computer sooner than I normally do.


Under 11 seconds for CS3 extended just now, with two both my web
browers and news reader loaded. Seems fast enough to me for a PC.

About 15 secs for CS3 the first time, but when I closed it to try it
a second time, it opened in less than 5. Seems like there is a FNP
Licensing Service program that takes awhile to check out everything
when you first open the software, but it stays running in the
background even after shutting Photoshop down.

I think I paid about $1300 -$1500 for my off the shelf system about a
year ago. I actually upgraded sound card and video card so I really
not sure of the final cost, but it was in that range. It was around
the same time you upgraded yours, what is the total cost on your
custom job.

The quick overview:
Gateway GM5072
AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual Core 4200+
2.21 GHZ 2.0 GB Ram


Just under 2K.

and what is the quick overview of the system.



It runs just fine. :}

On Oct 30, 8:13 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in messagenews:hJOdnX8QZJalgLranZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comca st.com...





wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows
does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP

Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Bingo! If Vista is not to my sons liking I will buy a WinXP Home retail
package ($80 on the net), reformat it and install that OS. He will be
giving it a go while home and will make the decision.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Listen guys... If you are going to surf the net, spellcheck ng posts,
and edit pics of your little kitty cat, Mac is fine... If you are
going to really make a living and do business, not so much.. Unless
you are an art teacher or magazine editor.. even then...

" JimH" ask wrote in message
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP
Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a
tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows
does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games.
I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer
and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP


Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Bingo! If Vista is not to my sons liking I will buy a WinXP Home retail
package ($80 on the net), reformat it and install that OS. He will be
giving it a go while home and will make the decision.

So how does it feel to be charged twice for an OS?

On Oct 30, 8:43 am, "Canuck57" wrote:
" JimH" ask wrote in om...







"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP
Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a
tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows
does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games.
I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer
and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP

Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Bingo! If Vista is not to my sons liking I will buy a WinXP Home retail
package ($80 on the net), reformat it and install that OS. He will be
giving it a go while home and will make the decision.

So how does it feel to be charged twice for an OS?- Hide quoted text -

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It is called "the cost of doing business"... Sometimes it sucks, but
like I said, if you want to do business, you gotta' do PC.

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It is called "the cost of doing business"... Sometimes it sucks, but
like I said, if you want to do business, you gotta' do PC.


That was my feeling for 20 years, but since you can now save open source
and Mac Office programs in a MS compatible Office document, I don't
believe it as valid today as it once was.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:51:45 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3 running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.

I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.

I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

That's a nice thing to do!

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:13:42 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows
does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP


Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Bingo! If Vista is not to my sons liking I will buy a WinXP Home retail
package ($80 on the net), reformat it and install that OS. He will be
giving it a go while home and will make the decision.


He will love what you give him. Vista, from the expert's comments you've
shown us, is the way to go. And, based on Reggie's comments, you should be
happy with that AMD chip. I was totally wrong with my comment about the
Intel chips. Reggie knows what he's talking about when it comes to
computers!

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:17:57 -0000, wrote:

On Oct 30, 8:13 am, " JimH" ask wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in messagenews:hJOdnX8QZJalgLranZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comca st.com...





wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows
does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games. I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP

Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Bingo! If Vista is not to my sons liking I will buy a WinXP Home retail
package ($80 on the net), reformat it and install that OS. He will be
giving it a go while home and will make the decision.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Listen guys... If you are going to surf the net, spellcheck ng posts,
and edit pics of your little kitty cat, Mac is fine... If you are
going to really make a living and do business, not so much.. Unless
you are an art teacher or magazine editor.. even then...

When I first started teaching, we had Macs everywhere. I think they were
being given to the schools in the hopes the kids would get hooked.
Eventually the county in which I teach got the word and went with Dells,
for the most part. Now it's hard to find a Mac in the school.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:36:13 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:13:42 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:


"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
om...
wrote:
On Oct 30, 7:51 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:54:23 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:20 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
The reason I have started to think about this is I have a Win XP
Duo
Core processor with 2GB of Ram, and I am amazed at how slow
Photoshop
CS3 loads, especially when I compare the speed of Photoshop CS3
running
on an older Mac
I have 4 Gb and noticed the same thing. A video app I have is even
slower, but comes right up on a Mac at Mrs. Wave's school machine.
I am thinking about reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling
WinXP
with just the software we currently run. My daughters have a
tendency
to download an install new software just to check it out. Windows
does
not do a good job completely uninstalling the software.
I don't have that problem anymore. I don't play games on this
computer, I regularly update and clean out the cookies and clean the
registries every once in a while. I'm running the pro version of
XP -
whatever that is and I have enough processor speed and memory for
just
about anything.
I used to give my kids the old computer whenever I purchased a new
one.
That way they could play games and would not screw up my machine.
That didn't work because the old machine would not run the new games.
I
then started giving my old machine to my mother who only used it for
email and the internet. She soon got tired of using an old computer
and
purchased a new low end model. I am now giving away my old machine to
neighbors or a community center who gives them to kids who can't
afford
a computer.

I am considering giving away my new laptop with Vista and getting a
Mac or buying an older second hand laptop with XP


Why don't you just reformat the hard drive and install XP?

Bingo! If Vista is not to my sons liking I will buy a WinXP Home retail
package ($80 on the net), reformat it and install that OS. He will be
giving it a go while home and will make the decision.


He will love what you give him. Vista, from the expert's comments you've
shown us, is the way to go.

He will be the one making the decision.

Now how about this........stop puppy dogging me with your snarky comments.
I will do the same.

Deal?


As 'snarky' isn't in my vocabulary, perhaps you could explain what about
the last post of mine is 'snarky'.

And Jimh, from my observations, your 'deals' are much like your
'apologies', and we won't go there.

I think your son will be tickled with whatever you give him, and
justifiably so!

;-)