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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:37:00 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote:

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote:

Has anyone else thought about jumping ship and going to the dark
side?
I have used both Windows and Macs for many years.
If I have to buy a computer from my money, it is going to be a Mac.
Nowadays you can even run Windows on them, if you must: Bootcamp,
Parallels and others make it possible.
The laptops outperform typical PC's anyway, even when running
Windows
(natively).
http://www.apple.com/getamac/windows.html
Of those I have seen switching to a Mac, it took them usually some
two
weeks to learn the new habits, but none of them ever looked back.

Marc

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Apple computers consistently rank at the top of Consumer Report
rating for
both performance and reliability. They are far from cheap though.

The Dell Inspiron laptop I purchased for my son ranked 2nd in
performance
and their latest tests of laptops and Dell ranked either 2nd or 3rd
for
reliability.

Sounds like your son is getting a super gift! ;-)
Is a nice gift. But kids always cost us money. My 2 cost me a little
over $100k for university degrees.
You got off cheaply. ;)


Both are excellent students. #2 was on a 1/2 ride scholarship, and #1
was on a little less scholarship, and went to a state school. #2 went to
a private university.

My oldest was offered a full scholarship with $5000 annual expenses to
ASU, 1/2 scholarship to NYU and U of S. California. He went to his first
choice school which offered him a work study program. Damn kid. He wants
to be a college professor and felt the school he went to would carry more
weight in academia.

University of the Pacific offered bigger grant, but she preferred a better
location. Better school and location.

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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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In article ,
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote:

Has anyone else thought about jumping ship and going to the dark
side?
I have used both Windows and Macs for many years.
If I have to buy a computer from my money, it is going to be a Mac.
Nowadays you can even run Windows on them, if you must: Bootcamp,
Parallels and others make it possible.
The laptops outperform typical PC's anyway, even when running
Windows
(natively).
http://www.apple.com/getamac/windows.html
Of those I have seen switching to a Mac, it took them usually some
two
weeks to learn the new habits, but none of them ever looked back.

Marc

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remove bye and from mercial to get valid e-mail
http://www.heusser.com
Apple computers consistently rank at the top of Consumer Report
rating for
both performance and reliability. They are far from cheap though.

The Dell Inspiron laptop I purchased for my son ranked 2nd in
performance
and their latest tests of laptops and Dell ranked either 2nd or 3rd
for
reliability.

Sounds like your son is getting a super gift! ;-)
Is a nice gift. But kids always cost us money. My 2 cost me a little
over $100k for university degrees.
You got off cheaply. ;)

Both are excellent students. #2 was on a 1/2 ride scholarship, and #1
was on a little less scholarship, and went to a state school. #2 went to
a private university.
My oldest was offered a full scholarship with $5000 annual expenses to
ASU, 1/2 scholarship to NYU and U of S. California. He went to his first
choice school which offered him a work study program. Damn kid. He wants
to be a college professor and felt the school he went to would carry more
weight in academia.

University of the Pacific offered bigger grant, but she preferred a better
location. Better school and location.

Damn Kids. While my son did not take advantage of ASU's offer, they
have been extremely successful with their full scholarship and stipend
offer. They actually enrolled more National Honor Scholars than Yale,
Princeton or Stanford. They send out their offer to all Scholars (most
who have not applied to ASU) and time their offer to arrive at about the
same time as other schools are finalizing their financial package for
the students. When you are looking at the the expense the parents
and/or students will incur, it makes ASU look extremely attractive.

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:49:27 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Is a nice gift. But kids always cost us money. My 2 cost me a little over
$100k for university degrees.

Each or for both?

That's a good deal if it's both. Private schools in the east are
running $120 to $160K for a 4 year degree.

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:24:43 -0000,
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I still think that at least for now, PC is still the machine of
commerce. I don't know of anyone who runs internet business
applications and/or networking on MAC.

Not in the graphic arts business. My brother-in-law runs a small ad
agency and he says they have to run Macs just to be compatible with
everyone they do business with.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:49:27 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Is a nice gift. But kids always cost us money. My 2 cost me a little
over
$100k for university degrees.

Each or for both?

That's a good deal if it's both. Private schools in the east are
running $120 to $160K for a 4 year degree.

That was for both. The younger has been out almost 10 years and her school
ran $28k / year. Had a scholarship so saved about $13.5k year. The older
went to a California state run university and cost me about $12.5k a year
total. 5 years for her. As could not get all the classes she needed. One
advantage of a private univ. And she has been out about 13 years.

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In article ,
Wayne.B wrote:

I still think that at least for now, PC is still the machine of
commerce. I don't know of anyone who runs internet business
applications and/or networking on MAC.

Probably more than half of the high traffic websites run their Apache as
their webserver. And use ipfw as their firewall.
You get both on every single Mac OS X installation, for free.
Mac Servers are cheaper than Dell's.
Mac Servers are most likely the easiest to administer Unix servers.

No wonder, Apple has increased its market share.
Just because everyone does it, does not necessarily mean it is a better
solution.

Do the comparison, have a look at the software and use it. If after that
you come to the conclusion that a PC under Windows is the better
solution, then by all means go that route. If not, you may find a better
way to do things with Mac OS X. You might be pleasently surprised.

HTH

Marc

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Marc Heusser wrote:
In article ,
Wayne.B wrote:

I still think that at least for now, PC is still the machine of
commerce. I don't know of anyone who runs internet business
applications and/or networking on MAC.

Probably more than half of the high traffic websites run their Apache as
their webserver. And use ipfw as their firewall.
You get both on every single Mac OS X installation, for free.
Mac Servers are cheaper than Dell's.
Mac Servers are most likely the easiest to administer Unix servers.

No wonder, Apple has increased its market share.
Just because everyone does it, does not necessarily mean it is a better
solution.

Do the comparison, have a look at the software and use it. If after that
you come to the conclusion that a PC under Windows is the better
solution, then by all means go that route. If not, you may find a better
way to do things with Mac OS X. You might be pleasently surprised.

HTH

Marc



I keep trying Macs at the Apple stores. Just about everything I try to
do on a Mac seems to take more clicks than it does on a PC, plus there
seems to be much more in the way of "overlay" on Macs to keep users out
of the system.

I do like the way Macs look, though. But their bits and pieces are way
overpriced on the desktop machines.

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On Oct 31, 10:55 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:24:43 -0000,
wrote:

I still think that at least for now, PC is still the machine of
commerce. I don't know of anyone who runs internet business
applications and/or networking on MAC.

Not in the graphic arts business. My brother-in-law runs a small ad
agency and he says they have to run Macs just to be compatible with
everyone they do business with.

I agree totally, that's what MAC shines at for sure. My kid was into
graphic design and used MAC for business and school. Still does, with
a PC OS installed too.. But again, that and some music mixers, and a
few others, not a lot in the contect of "commerce" though. Like I
said, each of these tools can be used for many things, but each has
it's area where it shines.

Here is a quick breakdown, my opinion only of each.

MAC- Professional and commercial Graphic arts, education, music,
virtual creativity.

PC Windows.- General personal and small business use. Finance, web,
Office type apps, general MP? and photo work, for the non-
professional. Light office networking and IP netwoking (web based
networking).

Windows 2000_Professional commerce, financial applications, dedicated
business network, security, bank communications, credit card gateways,
shopping cart and order processing, schedualing, live network
communications and dynamic web based databases, lists... etc...

Unix, Linux, (Apache).. Everything W2K does, only better;) IP
netoworking, and because it ain't MS, no one bothers writing viruses
for it. Unix machines have the ability with modules to run any MS type
language such as ASP (Active Server Pages). Also supporting many other
commercial lanuages and engines such as PHP, Miva, MySql, etc...

Again, these are very general observations, exceptions may even be the
rule, but I'm just sayin' ;)

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On Nov 1, 1:24 pm, Marc Heusser
d wrote:
In article ,

Wayne.B wrote:
I still think that at least for now, PC is still the machine of
commerce. I don't know of anyone who runs internet business
applications and/or networking on MAC.

Probably more than half of the high traffic websites run their Apache as
their webserver. And use ipfw as their firewall.
You get both on every single Mac OS X installation, for free.
Mac Servers are cheaper than Dell's.
Mac Servers are most likely the easiest to administer Unix servers.

No wonder, Apple has increased its market share.
Just because everyone does it, does not necessarily mean it is a better
solution.

Do the comparison, have a look at the software and use it. If after that
you come to the conclusion that a PC under Windows is the better
solution, then by all means go that route. If not, you may find a better
way to do things with Mac OS X. You might be pleasently surprised.

HTH

Marc

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I agree to some extent. I can't remember which thread(s) I noted it
in, but we do run Apache... on a blade system.

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On Nov 1, 3:32 pm, wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:24 pm, Marc Heusser





d wrote:
In article ,

Wayne.B wrote:
I still think that at least for now, PC is still the machine of
commerce. I don't know of anyone who runs internet business
applications and/or networking on MAC.

Probably more than half of the high traffic websites run their Apache as
their webserver. And use ipfw as their firewall.
You get both on every single Mac OS X installation, for free.
Mac Servers are cheaper than Dell's.
Mac Servers are most likely the easiest to administer Unix servers.

No wonder, Apple has increased its market share.
Just because everyone does it, does not necessarily mean it is a better
solution.

Do the comparison, have a look at the software and use it. If after that
you come to the conclusion that a PC under Windows is the better
solution, then by all means go that route. If not, you may find a better
way to do things with Mac OS X. You might be pleasently surprised.

HTH

Marc

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I agree to some extent. I can't remember which thread(s) I noted it
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