On Mon, 29 Oct 07, Woland99 wrote:
I have an offer to buy (very cheaply) a 24' keel fiberglass sailboat
that has some damage to keel and needs repair.

What brand is it?
I agree with the two posters so far, find a surveyor and/or get a yard
estimate. Keel damage is usually repairable but .....
You might also want to post this on rec.boats.building. There is some
good advice over there by some folks that won't see your message here.

Rick

On Oct 29, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 07, Woland99 wrote:
I have an offer to buy (very cheaply) a 24' keel fiberglass sailboat
that has some damage to keel and needs repair.

What brand is it?
I agree with the two posters so far, find a surveyor and/or get a yard
estimate. Keel damage is usually repairable but .....
You might also want to post this on rec.boats.building. There is some
good advice over there by some folks that won't see your message here.

Rick

Bayliner Buccaneer. To be quite honest with you guys - I was not
actively looking for a boat - right now I have a friend with boat
that occasionally needs a helping hand to sail it - and that seems
like a better solution. But since price was almost free ~ $1000
range I thought I could investigate it a bit.
Thanks for the info!

JT

Woland99 wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 07, Woland99 wrote:
I have an offer to buy (very cheaply) a 24' keel fiberglass sailboat
that has some damage to keel and needs repair.
What brand is it?
I agree with the two posters so far, find a surveyor and/or get a yard
estimate. Keel damage is usually repairable but .....
You might also want to post this on rec.boats.building. There is some
good advice over there by some folks that won't see your message here.

Rick

Bayliner Buccaneer. To be quite honest with you guys - I was not
actively looking for a boat - right now I have a friend with boat
that occasionally needs a helping hand to sail it - and that seems
like a better solution. But since price was almost free ~ $1000
range I thought I could investigate it a bit.
Thanks for the info!

JT


I had no idea Bayliner made a sailboat. Another one of those you learn
something new every day.

On Mon, 29 Oct 07, Woland99 wrote:
I have an offer to buy (very cheaply) a 24' keel fiberglass sailboat
that has some damage to keel and needs repair.

Phantman wrote:
What brand is it?

Woland99 wrote:
Bayliner Buccaneer. To be quite honest with you guys - I was not
actively looking for a boat - right now I have a friend with boat
that occasionally needs a helping hand to sail it - and that seems
like a better solution.

Knowing only what I know so far, I would agree with your assesment.
Unless you're looking for a project boat to play with, even after
you've spent a lot of time, effort, and money, you'll end up with not
much to show for it except maybe experience.
-shrug- Just my 2 cents.

Rick

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:00:47 -0000, Woland99
wrote:

But since price was almost free ~ $1000
range I thought I could investigate it a bit.

Not free enough. It's probably a negative value boat, meaning that it
will cost more to fix than it is worth. There are a lot of negative
value boats out there, but that one is particularly suspect.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:00:47 -0000, Woland99
wrote:

But since price was almost free ~ $1000
range I thought I could investigate it a bit.

Not free enough. It's probably a negative value boat, meaning that it
will cost more to fix than it is worth. There are a lot of negative
value boats out there, but that one is particularly suspect.

You forgot to mention how much it will cost him to dispose of the boat
if he buys it and then realizes it is not worth fixing it.

It is common to see people trying to giving away boats just so they
won't have pay the trash man.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:47:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

You forgot to mention how much it will cost him to dispose of the boat
if he buys it and then realizes it is not worth fixing it.

It is common to see people trying to giving away boats just so they
won't have pay the trash man.

That too. I was once able to get rid of an old Hobie Cat for the
price of a cheap chain saw. We cut it up into small chunks and threw
it out with the trash over a couple of weeks. Before we moved to
Florida I tipped both of our trash pick up guys $20 each for
cheerfully carting away all of the krapp we threw out. They were
astounded. I don't think anyone had ever thanked them before, let
alone tipped them.

"Woland99" wrote
Bayliner Buccaneer.

Have you checked this out? (At a glance, I'm kinda glad my boat isn't a BB.)
http://groups.msn.com/BaylinerBuccaneerSloops

"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
At a glance, I'm kinda glad my boat isn't a BB.

No offense intended.
I went to the "core repair" forum first, and all those descriptions of wood
rot gave me the willies.

Ernest Scribbler wrote:
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote
At a glance, I'm kinda glad my boat isn't a BB.

No offense intended.
I went to the "core repair" forum first, and all those descriptions of wood
rot gave me the willies.




I wouldn't touch a boat with a cored hull with a 50' pole. Some smaller
boats have cored transoms (cored with a closed bubble foam or special
treated ply) and those are okay because it's easy to control and seal
any holes properly, and even replace if it ever is necessary, but a
cored hull...no way. Plus, the few cored hulls I have seen with holes in
them seem to have very thin fiberglass on each side of the coring material.