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"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.

Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.


Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch

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On Oct 19, 1:00 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would
you?

Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.

Why was I brought into this John? What seems to be your problem today?- Hide quoted text -

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:00:05 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would
you?

Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.


Why was I brought into this John? What seems to be your problem today?


You weren't 'brought into' anything. You were simply used as a comparison.
You're welcome to butt out.

Got it?

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the St.
John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine seaplane
basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but if you
deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers, why, you
might run aground.

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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or
marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the
Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the St.
John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine seaplane
basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but if you
deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers, why, you
might run aground.

Harry,
I thought you wondered why anyone would not use the ICW? You now seem
to agree with Wayne and Eisboch that he should run outside. See you can
learn a lot from someone who actually boats.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or
marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the
Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the
St. John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine
seaplane basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but
if you deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers,
why, you might run aground.

Harry,
I thought you wondered why anyone would not use the ICW? You now seem
to agree with Wayne and Eisboch that he should run outside. See you can
learn a lot from someone who actually boats.



I'm not agreeing, d.f. It's an interesting run, and can be hazardous if
you are careless or don't know what you are doing. Ergo, you probably
should never run the ICW in that area. A waterless lake lanier probably
is appropriate for a non-boater like you.

The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK
wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


Ribbing aside, you are correct, except only to find a safe harbor or
marina
until the weather improves.

The ICW is not a desirable option in a larger boat south of the
Carolinas,
until you get well south in Florida.

Eisboch



That's correct. It's especially interesting between Georgia and the
St. John's River, and from a few miles north of the St. Augustine
seaplane basin to the Lions' bridge. Not only is the ICW twisty, but
if you deviate a foot from the channel between the "stick" markers,
why, you might run aground.

Harry,
I thought you wondered why anyone would not use the ICW? You now seem
to agree with Wayne and Eisboch that he should run outside. See you
can learn a lot from someone who actually boats.



I'm not agreeing, d.f. It's an interesting run, and can be hazardous if
you are careless or don't know what you are doing. Ergo, you probably
should never run the ICW in that area. A waterless lake lanier probably
is appropriate for a non-boater like you.

The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.

Harry,
Ok, so you now think Eisboch and Wayne are wrong with their assessment
that it is better to wait for good weather and make a run on the
outside? It really is hard to figure out what you are saying because
when you said "That's correct", I thought you were agreeing with Eisboch.

Since Wayne and Eisboch have both made the trip a number of times, I
would assume you have done it a zillion times on the outside and found
it to be the less desirable route every time.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..

The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator. Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
..

Since Wayne and Eisboch have both made the trip a number of times, I
would assume you have done it a zillion times on the outside and found
it to be the less desirable route every time.


Correction. Eisboch has done it twice. Barely qualifies as a newbie.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
.
Since Wayne and Eisboch have both made the trip a number of times, I
would assume you have done it a zillion times on the outside and found
it to be the less desirable route every time.


Correction. Eisboch has done it twice. Barely qualifies as a newbie.

Eisboch


Two does qualify as a number. ;)

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator. Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea Pro
up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great fishing
along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular destination.
Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of tee-shirts leftover from
my last trip there.

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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator. Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea Pro
up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great fishing
along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular destination.
Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of tee-shirts leftover from
my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or to
contend with the barges on the ICW?

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers
heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some
quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least.
If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own
channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator.
Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea Pro
up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great
fishing along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular
destination. Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of
tee-shirts leftover from my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or to
contend with the barges on the ICW?



Why would you care? You're not going to encounter the ocean or the barges.

For what it is worth, the ICW run is far more interesting visually.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...


So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or to
contend with the barges on the ICW?


You asked Harry, but I'll give you my opinion.

There were a couple of places that we passed close by to a long train of
barges being towed by a large tugboat. The train was so long that several
small tugs were attached along the length of the multiple barge train to
help steer the whole thing around bends.

These barges take up the center of the channel in the ICW. In order for us
to pass (in opposing directions) the Navigator, at 52' LOA, 15' beam and
drawing 4.5' was within 12-15 feet abeam of the barge train, and still my
depth alarm was going off.

A smaller boat, with an outboard or I/0 could easily move out of the main
channel, even stop and tilt the engine up, until the barge passed.

There are notices of barge and large ship movements made available to boats
transiting those sections of the ICW so you can avoid having to deal with
it.

Eisboch

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers
heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some
quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the least.
If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own
channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator.
Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea
Pro up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great
fishing along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular
destination. Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of
tee-shirts leftover from my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or
to contend with the barges on the ICW?



Why would you care? You're not going to encounter the ocean or the barges.

For what it is worth, the ICW run is far more interesting visually.

Well thanks for your input. I am really surprised that you made the
"jump" dozens of times, since you have always said you don't like taking
long trips in the boat, and you would prefer to drive or fly somewhere
and then rent a boat, than to make a slow trip in a boat. I guess you
have changed your mind since you made the trip "dozens" of times.

I am surprised that this is the first time you mentioned all of these
many trips to St. Simons and area, it really is a nice place both
fishing in the area and on land.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
The area in question is frequented by tugs and barges. They manage to
transit the ICW without serious issues.

The boaters who run into trouble typically are on large cruisers
heading
for the sun.


I have some really good videos of us passing "close to" some
quarter-mile
long barges in the ICW. Interesting and tense, to say the
least. If I
can figure out how to post some of them on my website I will try.

On the other hand, those tugs and barges tend to dredge their own
channel
while making the transit unlike a smaller boat like the Navigator.
Where
they can pass, I might run aground.

Eisboch



The barges are interesting, especially in some of the tight ICW
turns...

I've made the "jump" from the Golden Isles to St. Augustine about a
dozen times, in the ditch and out in the ocean. Ran my 19-foot Sea
Pro up to St. Simons Island once on its bottom, mostly inside. Great
fishing along the ICW and in its creeks. St. Simons was a popular
destination. Nice beaches, good eats, still have a couple of
tee-shirts leftover from my last trip there.

So Harry, which way is better, to run the outside in good weather or
to contend with the barges on the ICW?



Why would you care? You're not going to encounter the ocean or the
barges.

For what it is worth, the ICW run is far more interesting visually.

Well thanks for your input. I am really surprised that you made the
"jump" dozens of times, since you have always said you don't like taking
long trips in the boat, and you would prefer to drive or fly somewhere
and then rent a boat, than to make a slow trip in a boat. I guess you
have changed your mind since you made the trip "dozens" of times.

I am surprised that this is the first time you mentioned all of these
many trips to St. Simons and area, it really is a nice place both
fishing in the area and on land.



D'oh. It isn't that long a trip, about 60 miles from Mayport to St.
Simons by boat, less than two hours on a good day, and another hour from
St. Augustine. I probably fished 70% of the creeks between the St. Johns
River and Nassau Sound along the ICE, and would many times head farther
north to catch different tides.

You really don't know much about coastal boating or in fact any sort of
boating. It shows.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Well thanks for your input. I am really surprised that you made the
"jump" dozens of times, since you have always said you don't like taking
long trips in the boat, and you would prefer to drive or fly somewhere
and then rent a boat, than to make a slow trip in a boat. I guess you
have changed your mind since you made the trip "dozens" of times.

I am surprised that this is the first time you mentioned all of these
many trips to St. Simons and area, it really is a nice place both fishing
in the area and on land.


D'oh. It isn't that long a trip, about 60 miles from Mayport to St. Simons
by boat, less than two hours on a good day, and another hour from St.
Augustine. I probably fished 70% of the creeks between the St. Johns River
and Nassau Sound along the ICE, and would many times head farther north to
catch different tides.

You really don't know much about coastal boating or in fact any sort of
boating. It shows.




Jim Gallow/On Lanier/Reggie has shown repeatedly, including in this thread,
that his only purpose here is to stir the crap.

Why do you bother with him?





I dunno. He's sort of like a pimple...you just want to squeeze out the
pus, even though your mommy said to leave it alone. The guy knows less
about boating from an experience point of view than anyone else who
posts here.

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.


Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.

No doubt, but the real secret is not to head out unless weather
conditions are right.

Thanks to the US Navy there is very good information available:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/ww3_cgi/c...or=w&area=natl

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0400, HK wrote:

Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.

No doubt, but the real secret is not to head out unless weather
conditions are right.

Thanks to the US Navy there is very good information available:

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/ww3_cgi/c...or=w&area=natl


Sorry, your URL isn't working for me.

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?

Well, as usual you are wrong on a number of key points. In particular
you seem to be confusing a stabilized, twin engine GB49 with some type
of lesser vessel. We don't wallow, ever. Never have, never will.

Running north we are typically 70 to 80 miles offshore passing
Jacksonville, close to the rhumb line from Port St Lucie to
Charleston, SC. Small wonder that you didn't see any similar boats,
it really wouldn't be safe in something like yours.

Coming south we like to hang right off the beach running outside
during the day, several miles off at night. It's much faster outside
because of deeper water and lack of low bridges (our air draft is over
28 feet). The scenery along the beach is quite nice also.

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:22:52 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?

Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.

It's all part of his low self esteem issue.

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On Oct 19, 6:42 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?

Well, as usual you are wrong on a number of key points. In particular
you seem to be confusing a stabilized, twin engine GB49 with some type
of lesser vessel. We don't wallow, ever. Never have, never will.

Running north we are typically 70 to 80 miles offshore passing
Jacksonville, close to the rhumb line from Port St Lucie to
Charleston, SC. Small wonder that you didn't see any similar boats,
it really wouldn't be safe in something like yours.

Coming south we like to hang right off the beach running outside
during the day, several miles off at night. It's much faster outside
because of deeper water and lack of low bridges (our air draft is over
28 feet). The scenery along the beach is quite nice also.

Oh my! That's really far. Does your "dinghy" have a low transom, or
does he just follow you around on the NG's? ;)

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:48:02 -0000,
wrote:

Oh my! That's really far. Does your "dinghy" have a low transom, or
does he just follow you around on the NG's? ;)

It's not clear what the attraction is but he's always back there. :-)

Must be the diesel exhaust or nicely varnished high transom.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
having a fine time not far from our LT hero's home base.

Out in the mid bay having a fine time? Doing what? There's
nothing out in the mid bay.

Really? Are you sure?


I've been out in "mid Chesapeake" a zillion times, Wayne. There's
a couple of little islands directly across the bay from my house,
adjacent to "the other side. There's nothing between here and
there but water, buoys, and a few fishing spots. On most clear
days, I can look across and see the western side of the Eastern
Shore.

Now, if you go south towards the lower Bay, there are some
islands out in the Bay a little ways. Been there, too. Maybe you
are playing geographic games and defining "mid Chesapeake"
differently, but "mid Chesapeake" to me means...the navigational
channel.

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well,
kinda boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat
out there is fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you
drive...nah.

Harry,
Since there is nothing to do and boring, why did you do it a
zillion times? I am curious, how did you get out the middle of
the bay a zillion times, and only put 25 hrs a year on your boat?
Floating?



How are the flies and rodents doing on Lake Lanier this month?

I have never known of a fly problem on the lake, and the only rodent
I ever see is one of these:
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/No...eaverPhoto.jpg


I am curious as to why you would want to go and do something a
zillon times that you find boring. It really just doesn't make any
sense.

It really seems that there is very little you enjoy about boating,
except talking about boating.


Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Have you noticed that you seem to thrill on using high school insults,
yet they only thing I have ever done is point out the obvious
inconsistencies in your many insults and statements.

So do you see many rodents up your way. I hope you finally took my
suggestion and allow your wildlife to eat a healthy. natural varied
diet, and have stopped feeding them your table scraps.



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Once again, narcissism is a disease. You *can* get help.

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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the
sidewalk, other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Have you noticed that you seem to thrill on using high school
insults, yet they only thing I have ever done is point out the
obvious inconsistencies in your many insults and statements.

So do you see many rodents up your way. I hope you finally took my
suggestion and allow your wildlife to eat a healthy. natural varied
diet, and have stopped feeding them your table scraps.



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Then why did you ask me about lake lanier rodents?



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Are you capable of ignoring posts, asshole? Children would laugh at
your behavior.

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Don White wrote:


I have no idea why you took Waylon out of your bozo bin.
Did you actually think he was going to change for the better??


Who the hell is Waylon?

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HK wrote:



That's absurd. I'm simply not a fan of slow-moving powerboats, nor do I
like to spend time "getting there." If others enjoy that, so be it.

So you finally admit that your lobster boat was a lie.

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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:45:24 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm planning on installing a fresh-water washdown pump in my center
console

Why? All you have to do is back up into a following sea and you'll
have all the water you want.


You and Reggie seem to have newsgroup a**hole down pat.

And of course, your advice, like his, is wrong. The Bay around here is
not fresh water.

You do know the difference, right?

Good luck finding a space to store your fresh water. Maybe your cooler?