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Short Wave Sportfishing October 18th 07 12:39 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:28:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

Oh.....I just found this site:


http://nwtrawlers.blogspot.com/


Peter and Jan Whiting are taking the NW 42 down the Pacific Coast.
They're almost to Oregon, and headed to San Diego.

Anybody intersted in how this boat handles in rough weather can check
the blog......this time of year they will have *plenty* of gnarly
weather to deal with. Coastal forecast for Thursday is calling for
sustained winds of 40 knots with higher gusts........("Auntie Em!")


Nice looking boat and interesting design. Interestingly, this is the second
time in the past week that I've heard about articulating rudders. The first
was with a very experienced sailboater and boat builder here at Kingman.

I realize that the NW 42 is a new trawler type boat design but I am not sure
I am ready to accept the radar arch instead of a traditional mast. The
arch is probably more functional and convenient, but it just doesn't look
right to me on this type of boat.


I agree.

HK October 18th 07 12:40 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.



Understood. There are many who share your preference. That does not mean,
however, that those of us that enjoy the voyage as well are screwed up.

Eisboch



I don't recall saying or implying you were screwed up.

HK October 18th 07 12:41 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:28:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...
Oh.....I just found this site:


http://nwtrawlers.blogspot.com/


Peter and Jan Whiting are taking the NW 42 down the Pacific Coast.
They're almost to Oregon, and headed to San Diego.

Anybody intersted in how this boat handles in rough weather can check
the blog......this time of year they will have *plenty* of gnarly
weather to deal with. Coastal forecast for Thursday is calling for
sustained winds of 40 knots with higher gusts........("Auntie Em!")

Nice looking boat and interesting design. Interestingly, this is the second
time in the past week that I've heard about articulating rudders. The first
was with a very experienced sailboater and boat builder here at Kingman.

I realize that the NW 42 is a new trawler type boat design but I am not sure
I am ready to accept the radar arch instead of a traditional mast. The
arch is probably more functional and convenient, but it just doesn't look
right to me on this type of boat.


I agree.



It's a lifting handle, silly.

HK October 18th 07 12:41 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:

questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the
sidewalk, other than noticing the smell was about the same.

Have you noticed that you seem to thrill on using high school
insults, yet they only thing I have ever done is point out the
obvious inconsistencies in your many insults and statements.

So do you see many rodents up your way. I hope you finally took my
suggestion and allow your wildlife to eat a healthy. natural varied
diet, and have stopped feeding them your table scraps.



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.


Then why did you ask me about lake lanier rodents?



Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.

[email protected] October 18th 07 12:45 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Oct 18, 7:39 am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:28:15 -0400, "Eisboch"





wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...


Oh.....I just found this site:


http://nwtrawlers.blogspot.com/


Peter and Jan Whiting are taking the NW 42 down the Pacific Coast.
They're almost to Oregon, and headed to San Diego.


Anybody intersted in how this boat handles in rough weather can check
the blog......this time of year they will have *plenty* of gnarly
weather to deal with. Coastal forecast for Thursday is calling for
sustained winds of 40 knots with higher gusts........("Auntie Em!")


Nice looking boat and interesting design. Interestingly, this is the second
time in the past week that I've heard about articulating rudders. The first
was with a very experienced sailboater and boat builder here at Kingman.


I realize that the NW 42 is a new trawler type boat design but I am not sure
I am ready to accept the radar arch instead of a traditional mast. The
arch is probably more functional and convenient, but it just doesn't look
right to me on this type of boat.


I agree.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think it needs nose art. Plenty of room on the bow for a really neat
painting... or even a decal;)


Larry October 18th 07 01:33 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Chuck Gould wrote in
ups.com:

Large port and
starboard wire chases were incorporated in the hull layup to

make the
future addition or removal of wiring as convenient as possible.



The most wonderful news in the entire report, as I'm installing
wires into a Jeanneau sloop at the moment where the a$$holes that
put in the radar didn't take the time to install some pull
strings, dammit.

NEVER PULL A WIRE WITHOUT INSTALLING A PULL STRING FOR NEXT TIME!

Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

HK October 18th 07 01:45 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Larry wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote in
ups.com:

Large port and
starboard wire chases were incorporated in the hull layup to

make the
future addition or removal of wiring as convenient as possible.



The most wonderful news in the entire report, as I'm installing
wires into a Jeanneau sloop at the moment where the a$$holes that
put in the radar didn't take the time to install some pull
strings, dammit.

NEVER PULL A WIRE WITHOUT INSTALLING A PULL STRING FOR NEXT TIME!

Larry



Amen to that. I'm planning on installing a fresh-water washdown pump in
my center console, and was pleasantly surprised to see extra pull
strings coming out of electrical rigging tube in the console. One goes
to the bow and two go to the transom area. I won't need them for the
pump, but if I want to run wiring between the transom or bow and the
center console, I'll be able to do it without more trouble than I need.

Larry October 18th 07 01:47 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Chuck Gould wrote in
ps.com:

If I ever have a single screw boat built to my specifications
it will very likely include an articulating rudder.



Thanks for the post, Chuck. Nice boat.

I apologize to you, also. It doesn't take Acid Krause and company
long to trash anything about boats.

Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

Don White October 18th 07 02:10 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or questions
than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk, other than
noticing the smell was about the same.



I have no idea why you took Waylon out of your bozo bin.
Did you actually think he was going to change for the better??

As I see his little word game comments through your answers to him... I
congratulate myself on my decision to flush him out of my bilge.
Peggy Hall might have recommended treating this discharge though before
polluting our fair waterways.



HK October 18th 07 02:17 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or questions
than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk, other than
noticing the smell was about the same.



I have no idea why you took Waylon out of your bozo bin.
Did you actually think he was going to change for the better??

As I see his little word game comments through your answers to him... I
congratulate myself on my decision to flush him out of my bilge.
Peggy Hall might have recommended treating this discharge though before
polluting our fair waterways.




Actually, the bozo bin is on hiatus, and has been since I decided to
flush out my Thunderbird application in favor of a fresh install of the
latest beta, which no longer is a beta. When I cleaned out the old
T'bird files, the only thing I saved were email addresses and some
"stored" email.

Reading the first of Reggie's posts a couple of weeks ago was, I admit,
a moment of compassionate weakness on my part. I thought he was going to
behave in here. Alas, he's the same snarky turd he's always been.

There are still a few whose posts I simply skip over and don't read,
period. I'm sure you can guess who they are.




Reginald P. Smithers III October 18th 07 02:41 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the sidewalk,
other than noticing the smell was about the same.



I have no idea why you took Waylon out of your bozo bin.
Did you actually think he was going to change for the better??

As I see his little word game comments through your answers to him...
I congratulate myself on my decision to flush him out of my bilge.
Peggy Hall might have recommended treating this discharge though
before polluting our fair waterways.




Actually, the bozo bin is on hiatus, and has been since I decided to
flush out my Thunderbird application in favor of a fresh install of the
latest beta, which no longer is a beta. When I cleaned out the old
T'bird files, the only thing I saved were email addresses and some
"stored" email.

Reading the first of Reggie's posts a couple of weeks ago was, I admit,
a moment of compassionate weakness on my part. I thought he was going to
behave in here. Alas, he's the same snarky turd he's always been.

There are still a few whose posts I simply skip over and don't read,
period. I'm sure you can guess who they are.




It really is easy to filter threads or individuals in Thunderbird.

If you would like some assistance, let me know.

It really only takes about 1/2 sec. to set it up.

HK October 18th 07 02:49 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Once again, "reggie," I have no more interest in your advice or
questions than I would in a dog turd I walked around on the
sidewalk, other than noticing the smell was about the same.


I have no idea why you took Waylon out of your bozo bin.
Did you actually think he was going to change for the better??

As I see his little word game comments through your answers to him...
I congratulate myself on my decision to flush him out of my bilge.
Peggy Hall might have recommended treating this discharge though
before polluting our fair waterways.




Actually, the bozo bin is on hiatus, and has been since I decided to
flush out my Thunderbird application in favor of a fresh install of
the latest beta, which no longer is a beta. When I cleaned out the old
T'bird files, the only thing I saved were email addresses and some
"stored" email.

Reading the first of Reggie's posts a couple of weeks ago was, I
admit, a moment of compassionate weakness on my part. I thought he was
going to behave in here. Alas, he's the same snarky turd he's always
been.

There are still a few whose posts I simply skip over and don't read,
period. I'm sure you can guess who they are.




It really is easy to filter threads or individuals in Thunderbird.

If you would like some assistance, let me know.

It really only takes about 1/2 sec. to set it up.



Reading the first of Reggie's posts a couple of weeks ago was, I admit,
a moment of compassionate weakness on my part. I thought he was going to
behave in here. Alas, he's the same snarky turd he's always been.

HK October 18th 07 07:12 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:57:22 -0400, HK wrote:


Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about them,
people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is being used
in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about boats and no
nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the significance of an
unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't even
clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.


Harry, here is a bunch of info on the codeveloper of the NW 42, including
his email address. If, as you say, you are so interested, ask him your
technical questions.

Please come back and let us know the questions and answers.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/04459928928080652170



Not interested. Only thought it was peculiar the advertorial mentioned a
hull material that was not properly defined. If I were buying that sort
of boat, it wouldn't have an "infused composite" hull.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 18th 07 07:22 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:57:22 -0400, HK wrote:


Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about
them, people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is
being used in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about
boats and no nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the
significance of an unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't
even clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.


Harry, here is a bunch of info on the codeveloper of the NW 42, including
his email address. If, as you say, you are so interested, ask him your
technical questions.

Please come back and let us know the questions and answers.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/04459928928080652170



Not interested. Only thought it was peculiar the advertorial mentioned a
hull material that was not properly defined. If I were buying that sort
of boat, it wouldn't have an "infused composite" hull.


Harry,
Since you have no idea what materials and layup schedule is on the boat,
how do you know you wouldn't want their "infused composite" hull.

All magazine write fluff reviews to create interest in a boat, so those
who are actually interested can contact the mfg'er and get all of their
questions answered. You are not interested in a trawler, you were only
interested in giving Chuck a rash of **** (your favorite pastime in
rec.boats). As Eisboch said, if it wasn't for your confrontational
post, you wouldn't have anything to say in rec.boats. Do you still
think Chuck, Eisboch and Wayne should be hit with a tax surcharge just
because they have a boat larger than yours?

Heck, at 25 hrs a year, you use your boat less than an hour a week. Why
don't you just save yourself some money and use some of the fishing
charters in the area. You might be able to learn something along the way.


John H. October 18th 07 08:09 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:57:22 -0400, HK wrote:


Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about them,
people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is being used
in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about boats and no
nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the significance of an
unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't even
clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.


Harry, here is a bunch of info on the codeveloper of the NW 42, including
his email address. If, as you say, you are so interested, ask him your
technical questions.

Please come back and let us know the questions and answers.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/04459928928080652170

John H. October 18th 07 08:15 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:40:56 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.



Understood. There are many who share your preference. That does not mean,
however, that those of us that enjoy the voyage as well are screwed up.

Eisboch



I don't recall saying or implying you were screwed up.


Harry, you have been implying that with every post you've made about boats
bigger than yours. You may not have used those exact words, but you've sure
been making the implication!

Now I'll butt back out.

HK October 18th 07 08:24 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:40:56 -0400, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
"Getting there" on a powerboat to me is not as interesting as "being
there." That's especially true in the middle of the relatively
featureless body of water. I can appreciate that others might like the
nothingness of it. I hate flying long distances, but once I get to an
interesting locale, I typically like it a lot. In other words, I view
the vehicle as a means to an end. I don't much like driving the
Interstate highways, either, but sometimes I like where they lead.

Understood. There are many who share your preference. That does not mean,
however, that those of us that enjoy the voyage as well are screwed up.

Eisboch


I don't recall saying or implying you were screwed up.


Harry, you have been implying that with every post you've made about boats
bigger than yours. You may not have used those exact words, but you've sure
been making the implication!

Now I'll butt back out.



That's absurd. I'm simply not a fan of slow-moving powerboats, nor do I
like to spend time "getting there." If others enjoy that, so be it.

HK October 18th 07 08:25 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:57:22 -0400, HK wrote:


Chuck doesn't write boat "reviews." He writes boat advertorials.
Some of us who actually care about boats and know a little about
them, people like me, are intrigued when an unexplained material is
being used in an expensive new boat. Some of us who don't care about
boats and no nothing about them, people like you, don't notice the
significance of an unexplained material used in an expensive new boat.

There are many materials that can be used in "infused" composite
boatbuilding, including carbon fiber, fiberglass, kevlar, even wood
strips. Is the thermosetting material epoxy? Vinylester? It isn't
even clear the hull material is solid, as opposed to cored.

Harry, here is a bunch of info on the codeveloper of the NW 42,
including
his email address. If, as you say, you are so interested, ask him your
technical questions.

Please come back and let us know the questions and answers.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/04459928928080652170



Not interested. Only thought it was peculiar the advertorial mentioned
a hull material that was not properly defined. If I were buying that
sort of boat, it wouldn't have an "infused composite" hull.


Harry,
Since you have no idea what materials and layup schedule is on the boat,
how do you know you wouldn't want their "infused composite" hull.

All magazine write fluff reviews to create interest in a boat, so those
who are actually interested can contact the mfg'er and get all of their
questions answered. You are not interested in a trawler, you were only
interested in giving Chuck a rash of **** (your favorite pastime in
rec.boats). As Eisboch said, if it wasn't for your confrontational
post, you wouldn't have anything to say in rec.boats. Do you still
think Chuck, Eisboch and Wayne should be hit with a tax surcharge just
because they have a boat larger than yours?

Heck, at 25 hrs a year, you use your boat less than an hour a week. Why
don't you just save yourself some money and use some of the fishing
charters in the area. You might be able to learn something along the way.



More questions and "advice" from Reggie, the boatless ranking a**hole of
rec.boats.

Wayne.B October 18th 07 10:45 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:53:01 -0400, HK wrote:

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


You might be surprised just how fun it can be, and most of the time
the GB drives itself, sort of like someone taking you for a ride on a
nice day. All we have to do is keep a lookout for small LT fishing
boats. It's all too easy to accidently sink one with our wake.

Other than Tangier Island, one of the highlights of our trip through
the lower Chesapeake was seeing a feeding frenzy by a school of bottle
nosed dolphins. There must have been at least 30 of them just ripping
the living daylights out of a school of smaller fish on the surface.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 18th 07 10:52 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:53:01 -0400, HK wrote:

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


You might be surprised just how fun it can be, and most of the time
the GB drives itself, sort of like someone taking you for a ride on a
nice day. All we have to do is keep a lookout for small LT fishing
boats. It's all too easy to accidently sink one with our wake.

Other than Tangier Island, one of the highlights of our trip through
the lower Chesapeake was seeing a feeding frenzy by a school of bottle
nosed dolphins. There must have been at least 30 of them just ripping
the living daylights out of a school of smaller fish on the surface.


Wayne,
Boating is very similar to life, it isn't the destination, but the
journey that makes it worthwhile.


Wayne.B October 18th 07 10:52 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:16:12 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

That does not mean,
however, that those of us that enjoy the voyage as well are screwed up.


True, but there's always that chance.

:-)

Wayne.B October 18th 07 10:56 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:28:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I am not sure
I am ready to accept the radar arch instead of a traditional mast. The
arch is probably more functional and convenient, but it just doesn't look
right to me on this type of boat.


I agree. We get a lot of use out of our mast/boom as a dinghy and
cargo hoist. It's also a great place to mount the radar, anchor light
and steaming light.

Wayne.B October 18th 07 11:00 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:45:24 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm planning on installing a fresh-water washdown pump in
my center console


Why? All you have to do is back up into a following sea and you'll
have all the water you want.

HK October 18th 07 11:32 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:53:01 -0400, HK wrote:

Being out in the middle of the Bay driving a powerboat is...well, kinda
boring. On a nice windy day, though, being on a sailboat out there is
fun. Being on a floating winnebago like you drive...nah.


You might be surprised just how fun it can be, and most of the time
the GB drives itself, sort of like someone taking you for a ride on a
nice day. All we have to do is keep a lookout for small LT fishing
boats. It's all too easy to accidently sink one with our wake.

Other than Tangier Island, one of the highlights of our trip through
the lower Chesapeake was seeing a feeding frenzy by a school of bottle
nosed dolphins. There must have been at least 30 of them just ripping
the living daylights out of a school of smaller fish on the surface.




Your assumption is that I have not driven larger powerboats long
distances, either in the Bay, in coastal waters, in the ocean, or in the
ICW. Your assumption would be wrong.

We don't see many dolphins up here, but we do see a few from time to
time. Good reason to visit Norfolk and Virginia Beach.

HK October 18th 07 11:33 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:45:24 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm planning on installing a fresh-water washdown pump in
my center console


Why? All you have to do is back up into a following sea and you'll
have all the water you want.



You and Reggie seem to have newsgroup a**hole down pat.

And of course, your advice, like his, is wrong. The Bay around here is
not fresh water.

You do know the difference, right?

Wayne.B October 19th 07 03:34 AM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:33:49 -0400, HK wrote:

You and Reggie seem to have newsgroup a**hole down pat.


Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. Get over it.

And of course, your advice, like his, is wrong. The Bay around here is
not fresh water.


But the Patuxent River, one of your favorite haunts, and a suitable
venue for a small low transom boat, is quite fresh further up. Frankly
we didn't see many boats your size out on the Bay unless it was very
calm.


You do know the difference, right?


Is this a trick question?

HK October 19th 07 03:41 AM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:33:49 -0400, HK wrote:

You and Reggie seem to have newsgroup a**hole down pat.


Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities. Get over it.
And of course, your advice, like his, is wrong. The Bay around here is
not fresh water.


But the Patuxent River, one of your favorite haunts, and a suitable
venue for a small low transom boat, is quite fresh further up. Frankly
we didn't see many boats your size out on the Bay unless it was very
calm.

You do know the difference, right?


Is this a trick question?




I call 'em as I see 'em. You've become a troll.

To find fresh water on the Pax, you have to go farther upstream than I
ever have on a power boat. I've been about five miles north of the
Benedict Bridge in Calvert County, and the water was still brackish.

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 19th 07 11:26 AM

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HK wrote:


Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Harry,
Would this be considered "Snarky" or "Assholey"?



Wayne.B October 19th 07 03:37 PM

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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

Wayne.B October 19th 07 03:41 PM

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:26:41 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Would this be considered "Snarky" or "Assholey"?


Careful, you are once again damaging Harry's already low self esteem.

He's running on empty these days after downgrading to a small LT boat.
Next thing you know he'll be trolling from a rental row boat.

HK October 19th 07 04:28 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.



Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 19th 07 04:33 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:26:41 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Would this be considered "Snarky" or "Assholey"?


Careful, you are once again damaging Harry's already low self esteem.

He's running on empty these days after downgrading to a small LT boat.
Next thing you know he'll be trolling from a rental row boat.


When you boat less than a hour a week, it really wouldn't matter.



Reginald P. Smithers III October 19th 07 04:33 PM

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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.



Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


That would be the prudent thing to do.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 19th 07 04:34 PM

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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.



Oh, you'll head in if the weather conditions are right. Bet on it.


ps all real boaters know that. ;) Did you read it somewhere?


HK October 19th 07 05:06 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.


When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?

Reginald P. Smithers III October 19th 07 05:17 PM

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HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run
aground too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.
LTs should not try this at home.


When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?



It is simple, because he wanted to, and because he can.

Since Wayne really doesn't live a make believe world in rec.boats, why
do you doubt him?

Hey, want to take me up on my bet to make some easy money?


HK October 19th 07 05:25 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.

When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?


Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.



Wayne has devolved into a "reggie-like" a**hole. No need to treat him
differently. The last person I would be jealous of is a horse's ass with
a big, slow-moving floating RV.

HK October 19th 07 06:12 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:25:16 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?
Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.


Wayne has devolved into a "reggie-like" a**hole. No need to treat him
differently. The last person I would be jealous of is a horse's ass with
a big, slow-moving floating RV.


Well, I think it sounds like jealousy, which you've got to camouflage
somehow. Reggie has offered to place a bet with you. Why not take him up on
it, especially if you're so confident he doesn't have a boat?

Are *all* large trawlers 'trawlerbarges or RV's', or is it just Wayne's and
Chuck's that fit your categorizing.



I like the looks of Chuck's boat just fine, especially since the
"makeover." The boat is too slow for my taste, but she looks great.


John H. October 19th 07 06:22 PM

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.


Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.


When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?


Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.

John H. October 19th 07 06:45 PM

Adventures with an articulating rudder, (see warning before reading)
 
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:25:16 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:06:06 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:41:41 -0400, HK wrote:

Have fun running your barge downhill to Florida. Try not to run aground
too many times between the St. Mary's River and Daytona.
Real men and real boats run outside south of Beaufort, NC.

LTs should not try this at home.
When I lived along the ICW in Florida, I'd often see boats like yours
wallowing down the ditch, and a couple of miles south of us, about every
two weeks, grounding on what was then an unmarked sandbar.

On good weather days, we'd go out into the Atlantic 20 miles to fish off
some of the manmade reefs. Never saw any trawlerbarges like yours out
there. Sometimes we'd see a trawlerbarge or sailboat just outside the
St. Johns River, waiting for the outgoing tide and current to change so
they could head in to the intersection of the river and the ICW.

I doubt you run outside the ditch heading south in Florida. Why would you?


Harry, I hate to say this, but you are sounding much like JimH with your
comments - full of jealousy. It's not becoming.



Wayne has devolved into a "reggie-like" a**hole. No need to treat him
differently. The last person I would be jealous of is a horse's ass with
a big, slow-moving floating RV.


Well, I think it sounds like jealousy, which you've got to camouflage
somehow. Reggie has offered to place a bet with you. Why not take him up on
it, especially if you're so confident he doesn't have a boat?

Are *all* large trawlers 'trawlerbarges or RV's', or is it just Wayne's and
Chuck's that fit your categorizing.


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