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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:15:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:09:18 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:43:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Not if you are in a boat that weighs about twice as much as my house. Does your house have a displacement hull or a planing hull? I'm betting displacement. Oh the shame of it all, but at least it doesn't pound. :-) Maybe if you put more power on it... I'll tell you one thing, the day that my GB pounds will be the day that I once again try to improve my golf game. Actually, anything would be an improvement. I tried golf once - gave it a whole year. I gave it up because it's just too stupid for words. I felt pretty stupid at the end of my first year too. I still feel pretty stupid occasionally. But, the times I feel good about a shot are becoming more and more regular. Maybe you just gave up too soon? |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. |
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On Oct 9, 9:50 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. Ok, they wear knickers and are such big pansies they have to buy their balls in boxes of 12 ;) |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:50:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. I said nothing about people who play golf - that is their choice and if they enjoy it, that's fine by me - no problems. I think it's stupid - not the people who play it. I feel much the same way about ten pin bowling. Now duck pins - that's a whole different story. Great game. :) |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 9, 9:50 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. Ok, they wear knickers and are such big pansies they have to buy their balls in boxes of 12 ;) Can tell you're not a golfer. They are also readily available in boxes of 15. 8) |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:10:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: Now duck pins - that's a whole different story. Great game. :) If you like shooting marbles. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:10:05 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Now duck pins - that's a whole different story. Great game. :) If you like shooting marbles. Duckpins are for pussies. Real men bowl candlepins. There are no 300 games in candlepins. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:01:33 -0000, wrote: On Oct 9, 9:50 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. Ok, they wear knickers and are such big pansies they have to buy their balls in boxes of 12 ;) Um... Please note - I did not say it. But you wish you had... ;) |
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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:40:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:37:05 -0500, John H. wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:15:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:09:18 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:43:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Not if you are in a boat that weighs about twice as much as my house. Does your house have a displacement hull or a planing hull? I'm betting displacement. Oh the shame of it all, but at least it doesn't pound. :-) Maybe if you put more power on it... I'll tell you one thing, the day that my GB pounds will be the day that I once again try to improve my golf game. Actually, anything would be an improvement. I tried golf once - gave it a whole year. I gave it up because it's just too stupid for words. I felt pretty stupid at the end of my first year too. I still feel pretty stupid occasionally. But, the times I feel good about a shot are becoming more and more regular. Maybe you just gave up too soon? No - it's too stupid for words. Sounds like my grandkid trying jump rope. "This is stupid. Why would anyone want to do anything this stupid where you just get your legs all tangled? What a stupid game!" It takes a while to learn and appreciate. I don't like the game much, but I do enjoy the walking on pretty golf courses. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:40:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:37:05 -0500, John H. wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:15:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:09:18 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:43:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Not if you are in a boat that weighs about twice as much as my house. Does your house have a displacement hull or a planing hull? I'm betting displacement. Oh the shame of it all, but at least it doesn't pound. :-) Maybe if you put more power on it... I'll tell you one thing, the day that my GB pounds will be the day that I once again try to improve my golf game. Actually, anything would be an improvement. I tried golf once - gave it a whole year. I gave it up because it's just too stupid for words. I felt pretty stupid at the end of my first year too. I still feel pretty stupid occasionally. But, the times I feel good about a shot are becoming more and more regular. Maybe you just gave up too soon? No - it's too stupid for words. Sounds like my grandkid trying jump rope. "This is stupid. Why would anyone want to do anything this stupid where you just get your legs all tangled? What a stupid game!" It takes a while to learn and appreciate. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:50:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. Gee thanks, Reggie! Do raining (or was it reigning) a-holes need umbrellas? |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:46:48 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Here's a good place to get something to help you out - wuss! http://www.theballstogoforit.com/base.html |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:57:33 -0500, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:46:48 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Here's a good place to get something to help you out - wuss! http://www.theballstogoforit.com/base.html Click on wimp-stop shopping. You'll love it. |
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:50:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:28:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote: No - it's too stupid for words. If you think about it.........all sport games are, but they are a way to take ones mind off the realities of the world and get some exercise while doing so. No - only golf is stupid. Well said, maybe you could add something negative about those who like to play golf, sort of a cherry on top of the sundae. Gee thanks, Reggie! Do raining (or was it reigning) a-holes need umbrellas? Nope, feel free to dump all over me. ;) |
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On Oct 9, 5:52 pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:58:51 -0000, wrote: Me and wave were in his bay boat, doing 45 mph, 1 1/2 to 2 footers. I thought the ride was pretty good and tolerable... That's because you were only hitting every 4th or 5th wave. Wouldn't that depend upon the distance between wave tops? In hard chop, they are very close together. At speed on the Ranger, everything is close together;) |
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On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote:
Which boat will dip into a wave?? Hummmmmm.... http://www.yaimkool.com/imjustsayin.htm ;) I included the link again cause I do have a question. I have been looking at low transom boats and accepted Harrys assertion of the benefits of a LT (ie. quick empty cockpit etc.) as I also have a LT boat even if it is worth less than Harrys guage cluster;) Anyway, I was watching my transom ride way above everything I could throw at it and with my wide flat (primary stability/bouyancy) hull it makes a lot of sense as it takes a great amount of pressure to dip my transom, right from the start. What I can't understand is how a LT is good on a deep vee (with secondary or in this case, delayed stability/bouyancy). In rough water the transom can rise and fall. The deep vee does not provide nearly as much bouyancy high in the water and the momentum of the drop to sea level comes much more slowly. The momentum of such a heavy hull, and narrow surface presence could much more easily allow a deep vee to submerge. Much more easily that a flat or relatively flat bay boat the same way a deep vee rolls more in relation to the surface compared to a flat boat. Remember, bouyancy is only relational to the surface area of contact with the hull. After considering this I am wondering why anyone would really build a LT into a deep Vee, big water type boat? Or is a Parker really a bay boat, not intended for rough water? Kind of like a Suzuki Samuri, looks like it's built for the trails, but really built for the urban dweller? I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... |
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On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: Which boat will dip into a wave?? Hummmmmm.... http://www.yaimkool.com/imjustsayin.htm ;) I included the link again cause I do have a question. I have been looking at low transom boats and accepted Harrys assertion of the benefits of a LT (ie. quick empty cockpit etc.) as I also have a LT boat even if it is worth less than Harrys guage cluster;) Anyway, I was watching my transom ride way above everything I could throw at it and with my wide flat (primary stability/bouyancy) hull it makes a lot of sense as it takes a great amount of pressure to dip my transom, right from the start. What I can't understand is how a LT is good on a deep vee (with secondary or in this case, delayed stability/bouyancy). In rough water the transom can rise and fall. The deep vee does not provide nearly as much bouyancy high in the water and the momentum of the drop to sea level comes much more slowly. The momentum of such a heavy hull, and narrow surface presence could much more easily allow a deep vee to submerge. Much more easily that a flat or relatively flat bay boat the same way a deep vee rolls more in relation to the surface compared to a flat boat. Remember, bouyancy is only relational to the surface area of contact with the hull. After considering this I am wondering why anyone would really build a LT into a deep Vee, big water type boat? Or is a Parker really a bay boat, not intended for rough water? Kind of like a Suzuki Samuri, looks like it's built for the trails, but really built for the urban dweller? I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'm not "****ed" at your attempts to educate yourself. I think you're a funny guy, with very, very limited experience in real vee-bottomed power boats. Take a look here and see if you can figure out any of the answers you are seeking: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg Note that the round stainless steel drain on the port side next to the engine is above the waterline. Note that the transom cutout portion is 25" high. Note the areas of the boat's bottom outboard of the trim tabs. Any wheels turning up there between your ears? Maybe this photo will help allay your fears: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...olisparker.jpg Here's another bottom photo for you to ponder: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...C/IMG_0441.jpg And another: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-factory-3.jpg Get to work, grasshopper. |
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HK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: Which boat will dip into a wave?? Hummmmmm.... http://www.yaimkool.com/imjustsayin.htm ;) I included the link again cause I do have a question. I have been looking at low transom boats and accepted Harrys assertion of the benefits of a LT (ie. quick empty cockpit etc.) as I also have a LT boat even if it is worth less than Harrys guage cluster;) Anyway, I was watching my transom ride way above everything I could throw at it and with my wide flat (primary stability/bouyancy) hull it makes a lot of sense as it takes a great amount of pressure to dip my transom, right from the start. What I can't understand is how a LT is good on a deep vee (with secondary or in this case, delayed stability/bouyancy). In rough water the transom can rise and fall. The deep vee does not provide nearly as much bouyancy high in the water and the momentum of the drop to sea level comes much more slowly. The momentum of such a heavy hull, and narrow surface presence could much more easily allow a deep vee to submerge. Much more easily that a flat or relatively flat bay boat the same way a deep vee rolls more in relation to the surface compared to a flat boat. Remember, bouyancy is only relational to the surface area of contact with the hull. After considering this I am wondering why anyone would really build a LT into a deep Vee, big water type boat? Or is a Parker really a bay boat, not intended for rough water? Kind of like a Suzuki Samuri, looks like it's built for the trails, but really built for the urban dweller? I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'm not "****ed" at your attempts to educate yourself. I think you're a funny guy, with very, very limited experience in real vee-bottomed power boats. Take a look here and see if you can figure out any of the answers you are seeking: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg Note that the round stainless steel drain on the port side next to the engine is above the waterline. Note that the transom cutout portion is 25" high. Note the areas of the boat's bottom outboard of the trim tabs. Any wheels turning up there between your ears? Maybe this photo will help allay your fears: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...olisparker.jpg Here's another bottom photo for you to ponder: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...C/IMG_0441.jpg And another: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-factory-3.jpg Get to work, grasshopper. Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you. |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you. Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside? |
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On Oct 13, 8:16 am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: Which boat will dip into a wave?? Hummmmmm.... http://www.yaimkool.com/imjustsayin.htm ;) I included the link again cause I do have a question. I have been looking at low transom boats and accepted Harrys assertion of the benefits of a LT (ie. quick empty cockpit etc.) as I also have a LT boat even if it is worth less than Harrys guage cluster;) Anyway, I was watching my transom ride way above everything I could throw at it and with my wide flat (primary stability/bouyancy) hull it makes a lot of sense as it takes a great amount of pressure to dip my transom, right from the start. What I can't understand is how a LT is good on a deep vee (with secondary or in this case, delayed stability/bouyancy). In rough water the transom can rise and fall. The deep vee does not provide nearly as much bouyancy high in the water and the momentum of the drop to sea level comes much more slowly. The momentum of such a heavy hull, and narrow surface presence could much more easily allow a deep vee to submerge. Much more easily that a flat or relatively flat bay boat the same way a deep vee rolls more in relation to the surface compared to a flat boat. Remember, bouyancy is only relational to the surface area of contact with the hull. After considering this I am wondering why anyone would really build a LT into a deep Vee, big water type boat? Or is a Parker really a bay boat, not intended for rough water? Kind of like a Suzuki Samuri, looks like it's built for the trails, but really built for the urban dweller? I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'm not "****ed" at your attempts to educate yourself. I think you're a funny guy, with very, very limited experience in real vee-bottomed power boats. Take a look here and see if you can figure out any of the answers you are seeking: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02352... Note that the round stainless steel drain on the port side next to the engine is above the waterline. Note that the transom cutout portion is 25" high. Note the areas of the boat's bottom outboard of the trim tabs. Any wheels turning up there between your ears? Maybe this photo will help allay your fears: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/annapolis... Here's another bottom photo for you to ponder: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...C/IMG_0441.jpg And another: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/parker21-... Get to work, grasshopper.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on my end... |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you. Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside? Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole, there's no reason to treat you as if you were not. I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I bring them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing grease, ask two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove the boots up your butt. Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like a little twerp? |
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On Oct 13, 11:26 am, HK wrote:
wrote: I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on my end... Me, too. Let's try these. http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7 http://tinyurl.com/2juohq http://tinyurl.com/2sgr9v http://tinyurl.com/3yshww I am starting to see the flaw in my thinking... I am noting that other than up on plane, the water level at the transom would probably not be below the chine logs (into the vee)... Hummmmm... I'm lernin;) As to LT on an off shore boat, I guess it can be done safely, but I am still trying to figure out why when there are probably better options in most conditions, on most hull configurations... Hummmm, I'll be back;) |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you. Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside? Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole, there's no reason to treat you as if you were not. I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I bring them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing grease, ask two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove the boots up your butt. Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like a little twerp? Harry, It looks like you need to take your own advice. |
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wrote:
On Oct 13, 11:26 am, HK wrote: wrote: I am on it sensi... Having trouble with some of the links, probably on my end... Me, too. Let's try these. http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7 http://tinyurl.com/2juohq http://tinyurl.com/2sgr9v http://tinyurl.com/3yshww I am starting to see the flaw in my thinking... I am noting that other than up on plane, the water level at the transom would probably not be below the chine logs (into the vee)... Hummmmm... I'm lernin;) As to LT on an off shore boat, I guess it can be done safely, but I am still trying to figure out why when there are probably better options in most conditions, on most hull configurations... Hummmm, I'll be back;) You're learning, grasshopper. The chines are there to add stabilization at rest and to knock down spray at speed. Every "configuration" is a compromise. As an example, the "eurotransoms" found on many boats cut down on interior space, make it more of a reach to handle a fish off the stern, and...despite the fact that they look like they might block backwash, don't in many cases. The water comes right aboard when it "wants" to do so. A transom with scuppers in the right place and large enough for their intended purpose is just fine. A bracket, as I had on my former Parker, stops most backwash, period. But...it gets in the way of fishing and when you drop off plane, the water level tends to be, at least for a moment, right at the bottom of the powerhead cover. I like the cut-out transom on smaller boats like the one I have now. Boat balances better (boat floats more level at rest), easy to fish off the stern, boat drains fast. There is a splashguard option. I saw it at the dealership. My feeling was that it would not be necessary. You know, I used to "go offshore" in 12 to 15 foot wood boats with slablike 15" transoms. Should I have been worried? |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you. Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside? Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole, there's no reason to treat you as if you were not. I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I bring them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing grease, ask two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove the boots up your butt. Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like a little twerp? Harry, It looks like you need to take your own advice. Virtually everyone here is "behaving" reasonably, R., Except for you, the usual turds, and sometimes Wayne. Is it beyond your capability to keep your snarkiness in check? |
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HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Harry, Do you keep your knee-high boots in the boat or bring them inside? I would recommend you bring them inside, if you keep them in the boat during the winter, you can have problems with mold and mildew. Gee, Reggieturd...next time I need the opinion of a know-nothing flaming asshole, I'll be sure to contact you. Do you keep the boots in the boat or inside? Since you insist upon acting as if you were a junior high a**hole, there's no reason to treat you as if you were not. I keep the boots in the Atlanta area. When I want to store them, I bring them down to your area, along with a tube of trailer bearing grease, ask two pansies to bend you over a rail, and watch them shove the boots up your butt. Now, you want to behave decently, or you want to continue acting like a little twerp? Harry, It looks like you need to take your own advice. Virtually everyone here is "behaving" reasonably, R., Except for you, the usual turds, and sometimes Wayne. Is it beyond your capability to keep your snarkiness in check? Harry, I would recommend you look at your own behavior, I am the epitome of behaving reasonable, when compared to you. |
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On Oct 13, 5:54 am, wrote:
On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'd say that if the LT parkers were unsafe they wouldn't be selling them. |
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Tim wrote:
On Oct 13, 5:54 am, wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'd say that if the LT parkers were unsafe they wouldn't be selling them. The transoms aren't low, they're notched. Whichever newsgroup idiot started this doesn't know the difference. The model Parker I have has been in continuous production (except for one year) for more than 25 years, with very minor changes. The one year it was out of production was the year the company introduced a cabin pilothouse model on the same hull, and it didn't have enough 21' deep vee molds to keep up with demand for the latter. Parker makes notched transom models to 25'. They are by far the company's most popular boats among their fishermen customers. |
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:14:02 -0400, HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Oct 13, 5:54 am, wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'd say that if the LT parkers were unsafe they wouldn't be selling them. The transoms aren't low, they're notched. Whichever newsgroup idiot started this doesn't know the difference. The model Parker I have has been in continuous production (except for one year) for more than 25 years, with very minor changes. The one year it was out of production was the year the company introduced a cabin pilothouse model on the same hull, and it didn't have enough 21' deep vee molds to keep up with demand for the latter. Parker makes notched transom models to 25'. They are by far the company's most popular boats among their fishermen customers. Harry, did you ever consider that about 99.9% of the posts about your low transom are made simply to get a rise out of you? No one seriously believes the low (or notched) transom is unsafe or unseaworthy. They're pulling your chain, and you're letting them. |
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John H. wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:14:02 -0400, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Oct 13, 5:54 am, wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'd say that if the LT parkers were unsafe they wouldn't be selling them. The transoms aren't low, they're notched. Whichever newsgroup idiot started this doesn't know the difference. The model Parker I have has been in continuous production (except for one year) for more than 25 years, with very minor changes. The one year it was out of production was the year the company introduced a cabin pilothouse model on the same hull, and it didn't have enough 21' deep vee molds to keep up with demand for the latter. Parker makes notched transom models to 25'. They are by far the company's most popular boats among their fishermen customers. Harry, did you ever consider that about 99.9% of the posts about your low transom are made simply to get a rise out of you? No one seriously believes the low (or notched) transom is unsafe or unseaworthy. They're pulling your chain, and you're letting them. I believe you are correct regarding those who understand what they see, but we do have a few boating fools here, like Returdo, who don't know any better. |
I'm just sayin' ;)
"HK" wrote in message . .. John H. wrote: Harry, did you ever consider that about 99.9% of the posts about your low transom are made simply to get a rise out of you? No one seriously believes the low (or notched) transom is unsafe or unseaworthy. They're pulling your chain, and you're letting them. I believe you are correct regarding those who understand what they see, but we do have a few boating fools here, like Returdo, who don't know any better. I don't think anyone has mentioned yet the reason for a notched transom on a deep or modified deep V hull with decent deadrise. It's so the standard length outboard legs will keep the prop in the water. Eisboch |
I'm just sayin' ;)
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message . .. John H. wrote: Harry, did you ever consider that about 99.9% of the posts about your low transom are made simply to get a rise out of you? No one seriously believes the low (or notched) transom is unsafe or unseaworthy. They're pulling your chain, and you're letting them. I believe you are correct regarding those who understand what they see, but we do have a few boating fools here, like Returdo, who don't know any better. I don't think anyone has mentioned yet the reason for a notched transom on a deep or modified deep V hull with decent deadrise. It's so the standard length outboard legs will keep the prop in the water. Eisboch What's the "standard" length leg on an outboard these days? Mine is 25". When I bought my first Parker, I was considering the 21' pilothouse, and talked to Parker about the notched hull. Parker, obviously, can design whatever it wants into its boats. I was told the brackets threw the hull off balance. From what I have seen of smaller boats with brackets, I believe that. What I really don't like: eurotransoms. |
I'm just sayin' ;)
John H. wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:58:44 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:14:02 -0400, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Oct 13, 5:54 am, wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'd say that if the LT parkers were unsafe they wouldn't be selling them. The transoms aren't low, they're notched. Whichever newsgroup idiot started this doesn't know the difference. The model Parker I have has been in continuous production (except for one year) for more than 25 years, with very minor changes. The one year it was out of production was the year the company introduced a cabin pilothouse model on the same hull, and it didn't have enough 21' deep vee molds to keep up with demand for the latter. Parker makes notched transom models to 25'. They are by far the company's most popular boats among their fishermen customers. Harry, did you ever consider that about 99.9% of the posts about your low transom are made simply to get a rise out of you? No one seriously believes the low (or notched) transom is unsafe or unseaworthy. They're pulling your chain, and you're letting them. I believe you are correct regarding those who understand what they see, but we do have a few boating fools here, like Returdo, who don't know any better. Trust me. He's quite knowledgeable about boats. I've never seen any evidence of that. |
I'm just sayin' ;)
"HK" wrote in message . .. What's the "standard" length leg on an outboard these days? Mine is 25". When I bought my first Parker, I was considering the 21' pilothouse, and talked to Parker about the notched hull. Parker, obviously, can design whatever it wants into its boats. I was told the brackets threw the hull off balance. From what I have seen of smaller boats with brackets, I believe that. What I really don't like: eurotransoms. If not mistaken, I believe 21 to 25 inches is considered "standard" length. I think a bracket is great if the boat is overall designed for it. Eisboch |
I'm just sayin' ;)
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:58:44 -0400, HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:14:02 -0400, HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Oct 13, 5:54 am, wrote: On Oct 9, 3:13 pm, wrote: I know Harry wll be ****ed, but hopefully someone with a smaller chip can answer my question rationally;) Sorry Harry, like your boat, but still have my concerns... I'd say that if the LT parkers were unsafe they wouldn't be selling them. The transoms aren't low, they're notched. Whichever newsgroup idiot started this doesn't know the difference. The model Parker I have has been in continuous production (except for one year) for more than 25 years, with very minor changes. The one year it was out of production was the year the company introduced a cabin pilothouse model on the same hull, and it didn't have enough 21' deep vee molds to keep up with demand for the latter. Parker makes notched transom models to 25'. They are by far the company's most popular boats among their fishermen customers. Harry, did you ever consider that about 99.9% of the posts about your low transom are made simply to get a rise out of you? No one seriously believes the low (or notched) transom is unsafe or unseaworthy. They're pulling your chain, and you're letting them. I believe you are correct regarding those who understand what they see, but we do have a few boating fools here, like Returdo, who don't know any better. Trust me. He's quite knowledgeable about boats. |
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