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I just got the following from Consumers Union (the Consumers Report
people), and found it interesting. The link provides an easy way to send a
note to your Congressperson.

**************************************
Your Social Security number is yours--and should be protected.
Support strong federal legislation to secure your Social
Security Number.
http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c....1MIa.HQQEdL00

[or: http://tinyurl.com/26vzrd ]

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.

The Social Security Administration created your Social Security
number solely for the purpose of giving you Social Security benefits.
It has become a defacto national ID number for commercial use--but
with few or no restrictions.

We can't turn back the clock. Your private ID number is out there.
But we can stop companies from selling your Social Security number,
or printing it on documents that can be easily stolen from your mail
box or wallet.

Lawmakers concerned about your privacy recently filed strong
legislation to protect you. Help us pass this new law in 2008 with a
quick message to your own Representative now.
http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c....1MIa.HQQEdL00

And once you take action yourself, please take a moment to forward
this message to your friends and family.

Sincerely,
Jim Guest
President, Consumers Union
Nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports
101 Truman Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10703-1057

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John H. wrote in
:

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.


"ID Theft" is a banker buzzword used to scare consumers into paying
anything to protect a series of numbers that threaten bankers with
increased costs and various scams. It DOESN'T threaten consumers, as the
hype infers. It threatens BANKERS with being swindled, not at all a bad
thing in my mind. Having ruined the country with their private central
bank and associated greed, they get what they deserve.

Every bureaucrat you meet first demands your SS number, or part of it.
So, that makes YOU immune from prosecution because THEY, a huge group of
uncontrollable individuals with unlimited access to your number, can do
anything with it you like. This is also true of credit card numbers you
must give every jerk you buy gas and beer from. Bankers try to sell YOU
insurance on THEIR numbering system to rip you off. Sorry, Bankers,
that's YOUR number, not mine. Once that number leaves my influence, it
is no longer under my control and I cannot be blamed for its use. YOU,
Bankers, must find ways to SECURE YOUR number so YOU, not me, cannot be
ripped off. After all, it's not MY money...it's YOURS, The Bank's!

This is precisely why you must shred every DEBIT card giving these same
thieves the combination to your bank account, the YOUR money in this
problem. Bankers are NOT required to save YOUR money from thieves using
your DEBIT card. However, dispite their attempts to make us THINK their
money stolen was stolen in our name....it's just not so....(c;

If they want me to protect the $96,000 line of credit on my credit card,
they simply need to give me the money and let me spend it, myself, paying
it back monthly to my own safe keeping OR paying them interest on any I
have borrowed from the pile and cannot pay back immediately to it. Once
it's out of my control as some imaginary number, it's out of my hands
from the thieves....including thieving bankers.

Larry
--
The Rockefellers and Rothchilds can kiss my ass....(c;

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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:29:11 +0000, Larry wrote:

John H. wrote in
:

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.


"ID Theft" is a banker buzzword used to scare consumers into paying
anything to protect a series of numbers that threaten bankers with
increased costs and various scams. It DOESN'T threaten consumers, as the
hype infers.

My daughter has had to go through the hassle twice. She'd probably not
agree with you.

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John H. wrote in
:

My daughter has had to go through the hassle twice. She'd probably not
agree with you.


When the bankers call to try to sell me their bogus insurance coverage, I
remind them whos money we are protecting.....THEIRS.

It's quite simple to ignore them. I don't need their usury to live.....


Larry
--
Please - Turn OFF cruise control when
you turn on windshield wipers!

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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:03:56 +0000, Larry wrote:

John H. wrote in
:

My daughter has had to go through the hassle twice. She'd probably not
agree with you.


When the bankers call to try to sell me their bogus insurance coverage, I
remind them whos money we are protecting.....THEIRS.

It's quite simple to ignore them. I don't need their usury to live.....


Larry

Somehow you lost me in there, Larry. But, that's OK.

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On Oct 3, 5:15 pm, John H. wrote:
I just got the following from Consumers Union (the Consumers Report
people), and found it interesting. The link provides an easy way to send a
note to your Congressperson.

**************************************
Your Social Security number is yours--and should be protected.
Support strong federal legislation to secure your Social
Security Number.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

[or:http://tinyurl.com/26vzrd]

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.

The Social Security Administration created your Social Security
number solely for the purpose of giving you Social Security benefits.
It has become a defacto national ID number for commercial use--but
with few or no restrictions.

We can't turn back the clock. Your private ID number is out there.
But we can stop companies from selling your Social Security number,
or printing it on documents that can be easily stolen from your mail
box or wallet.

Lawmakers concerned about your privacy recently filed strong
legislation to protect you. Help us pass this new law in 2008 with a
quick message to your own Representative now.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

And once you take action yourself, please take a moment to forward
this message to your friends and family.

Sincerely,
Jim Guest
President, Consumers Union
Nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports
101 Truman Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10703-1057

I run a business in Canada and 80% of our sales are in the US.
We are now 'required' by American law, to provide social security
numbers to US customs whenever we ship to a retail US customer.
Apparently, something Homeland Security had passed into law.
Many consumers do not want to give out their SS#. I don't blame them.
This law needs to be changed................and quickly.

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On Oct 7, 10:09 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:02:07 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 3, 5:15 pm, John H. wrote:
I just got the following from Consumers Union (the Consumers Report
people), and found it interesting. The link provides an easy way to send a
note to your Congressperson.

**************************************
Your Social Security number is yours--and should be protected.
Support strong federal legislation to secure your Social
Security Number.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

[or:http://tinyurl.com/26vzrd]

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.

The Social Security Administration created your Social Security
number solely for the purpose of giving you Social Security benefits.
It has become a defacto national ID number for commercial use--but
with few or no restrictions.

We can't turn back the clock. Your private ID number is out there.
But we can stop companies from selling your Social Security number,
or printing it on documents that can be easily stolen from your mail
box or wallet.

Lawmakers concerned about your privacy recently filed strong
legislation to protect you. Help us pass this new law in 2008 with a
quick message to your own Representative now.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

And once you take action yourself, please take a moment to forward
this message to your friends and family.

Sincerely,
Jim Guest
President, Consumers Union
Nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports
101 Truman Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10703-1057

I run a business in Canada and 80% of our sales are in the US.
We are now 'required' by American law, to provide social security
numbers to US customs whenever we ship to a retail US customer.
Apparently, something Homeland Security had passed into law.
Many consumers do not want to give out their SS#. I don't blame them.
This law needs to be changed................and quickly.

If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I prefer to live my life on the 'out side' of the cell bars.

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"John H." wrote in message
...

If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.


You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:02:07 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 3, 5:15 pm, John H. wrote:
I just got the following from Consumers Union (the Consumers Report
people), and found it interesting. The link provides an easy way to send a
note to your Congressperson.

**************************************
Your Social Security number is yours--and should be protected.
Support strong federal legislation to secure your Social
Security Number.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

[or:http://tinyurl.com/26vzrd]

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.

The Social Security Administration created your Social Security
number solely for the purpose of giving you Social Security benefits.
It has become a defacto national ID number for commercial use--but
with few or no restrictions.

We can't turn back the clock. Your private ID number is out there.
But we can stop companies from selling your Social Security number,
or printing it on documents that can be easily stolen from your mail
box or wallet.

Lawmakers concerned about your privacy recently filed strong
legislation to protect you. Help us pass this new law in 2008 with a
quick message to your own Representative now.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

And once you take action yourself, please take a moment to forward
this message to your friends and family.

Sincerely,
Jim Guest
President, Consumers Union
Nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports
101 Truman Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10703-1057

I run a business in Canada and 80% of our sales are in the US.
We are now 'required' by American law, to provide social security
numbers to US customs whenever we ship to a retail US customer.
Apparently, something Homeland Security had passed into law.
Many consumers do not want to give out their SS#. I don't blame them.
This law needs to be changed................and quickly.

If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.

Social Security number...
 

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:15:28 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 7, 10:09 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:02:07 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 3, 5:15 pm, John H. wrote:
I just got the following from Consumers Union (the Consumers Report
people), and found it interesting. The link provides an easy way to send a
note to your Congressperson.

**************************************
Your Social Security number is yours--and should be protected.
Support strong federal legislation to secure your Social
Security Number.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

[or:http://tinyurl.com/26vzrd]

Your Social Security number gives thieves the key to your credit and
your money. With so many copies floating around, it's no wonder ID
theft has directly affected 1 in 4 Americans.

The Social Security Administration created your Social Security
number solely for the purpose of giving you Social Security benefits.
It has become a defacto national ID number for commercial use--but
with few or no restrictions.

We can't turn back the clock. Your private ID number is out there.
But we can stop companies from selling your Social Security number,
or printing it on documents that can be easily stolen from your mail
box or wallet.

Lawmakers concerned about your privacy recently filed strong
legislation to protect you. Help us pass this new law in 2008 with a
quick message to your own Representative now.http://email.consumerreports.org/r/c...sQ.C5Sr2S..N.C...

And once you take action yourself, please take a moment to forward
this message to your friends and family.

Sincerely,
Jim Guest
President, Consumers Union
Nonprofit publisher of Consumer Reports
101 Truman Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10703-1057

I run a business in Canada and 80% of our sales are in the US.
We are now 'required' by American law, to provide social security
numbers to US customs whenever we ship to a retail US customer.
Apparently, something Homeland Security had passed into law.
Many consumers do not want to give out their SS#. I don't blame them.
This law needs to be changed................and quickly.

If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I prefer to live my life on the 'out side' of the cell bars.

I wish those who use the fake numbers down here felt the same way!

Good luck with your business.

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:41:53 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.


You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?


The 'advice' was worth what he paid for it.

How's the boat, the mom, the son, and the wife?

When my daughter dropped out of college and decided to make a nest in my
house, I started charging her $200 a month rent. For some reason she found
this hard to abide. So she moved into an apartment with several other
girls. That lasted about six months, and she then decided to return to
college. That entitled her to move back into the house. She then became a
nurse.

Just a thought, for what it's worth.

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"John H." wrote in message
...

The 'advice' was worth what he paid for it.

How's the boat, the mom, the son, and the wife?

When my daughter dropped out of college and decided to make a nest in my
house, I started charging her $200 a month rent. For some reason she found
this hard to abide. So she moved into an apartment with several other
girls. That lasted about six months, and she then decided to return to
college. That entitled her to move back into the house. She then became a
nurse.

Just a thought, for what it's worth.


So now you've lowered yourself to the Dingy Dan level.
Now it's not just my mom...it's my wife & son too!
Funny thing...you don't expect ant better from Dan, but you tried to pass
yourself off as a 'law & order' man.
I guess that old saying...'it all comes out in the wash' does make sense
here.

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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:27:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

The 'advice' was worth what he paid for it.

How's the boat, the mom, the son, and the wife?

When my daughter dropped out of college and decided to make a nest in my
house, I started charging her $200 a month rent. For some reason she found
this hard to abide. So she moved into an apartment with several other
girls. That lasted about six months, and she then decided to return to
college. That entitled her to move back into the house. She then became a
nurse.

Just a thought, for what it's worth.


So now you've lowered yourself to the Dingy Dan level.
Now it's not just my mom...it's my wife & son too!
Funny thing...you don't expect ant better from Dan, but you tried to pass
yourself off as a 'law & order' man.
I guess that old saying...'it all comes out in the wash' does make sense
here.


Did I say something offensive, or are you just looking for a made up excuse
to be rancorous?

How would we know anything about your wife, your mom, or your son if you
hadn't told us? I passed along a tip that worked with my daughter. I don't
believe I said anything at all about your son or your wife.

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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.


You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

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On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.

You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

I don't think so, but anyone following the earlier poor advice would
sure as hell find himself in serious trouble.

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On Oct 7, 11:17 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.
You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?
Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

I don't think so, but anyone following the earlier poor advice would
sure as hell find himself in serious trouble.

With whom?

Well, for one thing, I doubt an exporter would be doing anymore
exporting. I really don't know the answers to your questions. You'd
have to do some research if you must find out.
My advice, do business by the rules and you will never need to know
what the penalties are.

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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:36:58 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.

You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

I don't think so, but anyone following the earlier poor advice would
sure as hell find himself in serious trouble.

Transpose a couple digits. If he gets caught, he made a mistake.

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On Oct 8, 8:03 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:36:58 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.

You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

I don't think so, but anyone following the earlier poor advice would
sure as hell find himself in serious trouble.

Transpose a couple digits. If he gets caught, he made a mistake.

But if you SSN does not match your parcel address, you will never
recieve it. Your money wasted.

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On Oct 8, 11:35 am, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:17:12 -0700, wrote:
Transpose a couple digits. If he gets caught, he made a mistake.

But if you SSN does not match your parcel address, you will never
recieve it. Your money wasted.

The postman has your SS#? Mine uses my ZIP+4 and I have got mail with
nothing but that. (name and 9 digit zip)
I send and receive stuff from Canada all the time and I have never
given anyone a SS#. You just fill out that little green card/sticker
at the Post Office.

Not required with the Post Office, only UPS. Not sure why the double
standard. Something to do with homeland security. Possibly the post
office is exempt because it is federal and does it's own checking up.

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:17:12 -0700, wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:03 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:36:58 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.

You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

I don't think so, but anyone following the earlier poor advice would
sure as hell find himself in serious trouble.

Transpose a couple digits. If he gets caught, he made a mistake.

But if you SSN does not match your parcel address, you will never
recieve it. Your money wasted.

Same question as BAR.

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On Oct 8, 9:18 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:17:12 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 8, 8:03 am, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:36:58 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, BAR wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
.. .
If I were in your shoes, I'd try making up SSN's. Hell, illegal aliens by
the millions get by with it here, no reason you shouldn't.

You're advising a businessman to break the law and provide fraudlent
information to the US gov't?

Are you Canadians subject to USA law while in Canada?

I don't think so, but anyone following the earlier poor advice would
sure as hell find himself in serious trouble.

Transpose a couple digits. If he gets caught, he made a mistake.

But if you SSN does not match your parcel address, you will never
recieve it. Your money wasted.

Same question as BAR.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The address being shipped to and the home of the SSN holder need to be
the same.
Hey guys, don't give me the 3rd degree. I don't make the laws, I just
abide by them.

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