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Tim October 2nd 07 05:58 PM

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Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Thanks!


HK October 2nd 07 06:19 PM

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Tim wrote:
Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Thanks!


I have performed weddings that were good for the duration of the trip.

Eisboch October 2nd 07 06:28 PM

Capt. Francis....
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Thanks!


Not Tom, but the answer to your question is no, unless you also are
certified by your state to perform marriages as a notary, justice of the
peace or clergy).

It used to be authorized within territorial waters, but holding a USCG
license no longer (by itself) sufficient to legally marry anyone.

BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit
originated?
Answer at 11.

Eisboch



Chuck Gould October 2nd 07 07:39 PM

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On Oct 2, 10:28?am, "Eisboch" wrote:


BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit
originated?
Answer at 11.

Eisboch


I believe it was the distance that could be practically defended by
cannon fire from shoreside batteries.



Gene Kearns October 2nd 07 07:42 PM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:28:01 -0400, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


"Tim" wrote in message
roups.com...
Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Thanks!


Not Tom, but the answer to your question is no, unless you also are
certified by your state to perform marriages as a notary, justice of the
peace or clergy).

It used to be authorized within territorial waters, but holding a USCG
license no longer (by itself) sufficient to legally marry anyone.

BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit
originated?


Maximum range of shore batteries!


As for the marriage thing.... I was asked that when I first got my
Captains License.... and I assumed, like everybody else, that I was
then granted the power to marry.....

For American captains (marrying Americans.... anything else and
legality gets complicated.....)


......the captain may perform the ceremony, if they are a judge, a
justice of the peace, a minister or an officially recognized official
such as a Notary Public he can marry.

Of course, if you read through that, you realize that the privilege to
hold the ceremony has nothing to do with being a captain!

In fact, there is a Federal Law that prohibits the practice by US Navy
captains!
http://tinyurl.com/32xrv2

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Tim October 2nd 07 08:12 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Thanks!


You might be interested in an Ellis Island post I made recently, although
it doesn't address this particular question!


Thanks for the replies, guys. I suppose some laws have changed in the
last 160 or so years.


John H. October 2nd 07 08:42 PM

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Thanks!


You might be interested in an Ellis Island post I made recently, although
it doesn't address this particular question!

Short Wave Sportfishing October 2nd 07 09:20 PM

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.


The short answer is no within the accepted boundries of the US unless
the licensed Captain is a Notary (in some states), Justice of the
Peace, Court officer (like Judge or Magistrate) or has a religious
connection of some sort - as in Minister or Priest. There are legal
issues regarding proper licensening, provenance, etc., that take
precedence. Internationally, it depends on the country of
licensening, but the last time I looked it up, only Japan and Bermuda
allow marriages at sea to be legal and then only for heterosexual
couples.

The twist is that yes, the Captain can perform the marriage as long as
one of the above mentioned State/Federal officers are present to
witness the proceedings and declare them valid. The Captain is
essentially the presiding officer on a court in that instance.

The way it used to be viewed is that the Captain, as Master of the
vessel, was akin to Royalty in that he was the sole deliberative body
onboard the vessel thus had absolute authority to do as he pleased
(within certain boundries).

Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of
The Peace and a Notary Public.

I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)

Don White October 2nd 07 10:21 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
snip...
Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of
The Peace and a Notary Public.

I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)



Hee hee... the 'Judge Roy Bean' comes to mind..
http://www.desertusa.com/mag98/aug/papr/du_roybean.html



Vic Smith October 2nd 07 10:30 PM

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing October 2nd 07 11:20 PM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:31:36 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .


I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.



HANG 'EM!!! :)


Barney Fife took the day off and Gomer had to work? ;-)


Pretty much actually. They rotate the Traffic Magistrate duties
around all the towns in the Superior Court District and my name came
up so I did it.

It was fun.


Tim October 2nd 07 11:22 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of
The Peace and a Notary Public.

I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)


When Living in Indiana in the late 70's, My Honda CB 750 got me into a
few scrapes with speeding.

That was before all the insurance mayhem etc. and you just took the
ticket to the "JP court" and the old gal with the thick glass's,
painted eyebrows and in-general Tammy Bakker makeup with the duster
around ehr head, OH YEAH, and Pall Mall hanging out her mouth would
say, "Ok, son, how do you plead"

"Guilty as usual, ma'am"

She'd give a couple weak coughs, look over her cat-eyed glasses at me,
and say"

$1.00 fine and $47.00 court costs...


"Yes ma'am"


over and done with.


Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 12:05 AM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:32:17 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:31:36 -0400, "JimH" ask
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.


HANG 'EM!!! :)

Barney Fife took the day off and Gomer had to work? ;-)


Pretty much actually. They rotate the Traffic Magistrate duties
around all the towns in the Superior Court District and my name came
up so I did it.

It was fun.


I bet it was.

But I also bet that many of the judgements are disputed and reversed.


None actually.

I'm very liberal in that respect.

I only hung the ones that deserved it. :)

Eisboch October 3rd 07 12:36 AM

Capt. Francis....
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Oct 2, 10:28?am, "Eisboch" wrote:


BTW .... Anybody know where the traditional "3 mile" territorial limit
originated?
Answer at 11.

Eisboch


I believe it was the distance that could be practically defended by
cannon fire from shoreside batteries.



And right you are.

The three mile limit was originally defined as the practical range of
shoreside cannon fire.

Eisboch




Dan October 3rd 07 01:04 AM

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Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
snip...
Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of
The Peace and a Notary Public.

I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)



Hee hee... the 'Judge Roy Bean' comes to mind..
http://www.desertusa.com/mag98/aug/papr/du_roybean.html



"Hee hee"? Is that a Canadian thing?

http://tinyurl.com/2xzgch

Eisboch October 3rd 07 01:10 AM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.



Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.

--Vic


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...

I can't grant a divorce.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 01:24 AM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...

I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.

What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?

JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)

Eisboch October 3rd 07 01:32 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...

I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.

What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?

JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.

Rev. Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 01:36 AM

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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:32:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.

Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.

As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...

I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.

What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?

JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.

Rev. Eisboch


Well Hallelujah!!

Praise The Ammo and Pass The Sam!!

Get it - huh - huh?

Don White October 3rd 07 03:18 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Really? Cool beans.

What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?

JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.

Rev. Eisboch


Well Hallelujah!!

Praise The Ammo and Pass The Sam!!

Get it - huh - huh?



Some of those religions are generous handing out credentials.
I've got an older cousin who got himself tied up with that Utah gang and now
goes around calling himself a 'priest'.
I don't believe he ever attended highschool let alone university.



Tim October 3rd 07 03:21 AM

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On Oct 2, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:68o5g31ien120td0ps9cg4edqeghpt5ie4@4ax .com...





On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..


On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:


understand.


Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?


Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...


I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.


What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?


JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.

Rev. Eisboch


(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Mike October 3rd 07 04:09 AM

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I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)

Thank gawd that wasn't the day I had to go to traffic court when I lived in
CT!

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

Something I've always wondered.

OK, some of my Great Grandparents came from Germany in 1858 and were
legally married by the capt. of the ship before entering port into the
US. (Louisiana) It was a larger passenger type vessel from what I
understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.


The short answer is no within the accepted boundries of the US unless
the licensed Captain is a Notary (in some states), Justice of the
Peace, Court officer (like Judge or Magistrate) or has a religious
connection of some sort - as in Minister or Priest. There are legal
issues regarding proper licensening, provenance, etc., that take
precedence. Internationally, it depends on the country of
licensening, but the last time I looked it up, only Japan and Bermuda
allow marriages at sea to be legal and then only for heterosexual
couples.

The twist is that yes, the Captain can perform the marriage as long as
one of the above mentioned State/Federal officers are present to
witness the proceedings and declare them valid. The Captain is
essentially the presiding officer on a court in that instance.

The way it used to be viewed is that the Captain, as Master of the
vessel, was akin to Royalty in that he was the sole deliberative body
onboard the vessel thus had absolute authority to do as he pleased
(within certain boundries).

Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of
The Peace and a Notary Public.

I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)




Wayne.B October 3rd 07 04:17 AM

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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:36:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Praise The Ammo and Pass The Sam!!


The brew or the dog?

Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 10:55 AM

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:21:19 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 2, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:68o5g31ien120td0ps9cg4edqeghpt5ie4@4ax .com...





On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..


On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:


understand.


Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?


Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...


I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.


What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?


JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.

Rev. Eisboch


(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Heathen... :)

Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 10:55 AM

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:17:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:36:11 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Praise The Ammo and Pass The Sam!!


The brew or the dog?


What ever is handy at the time.

Tim October 3rd 07 12:30 PM

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On Oct 3, 4:55 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:21:19 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Oct 2, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:68o5g31ien120td0ps9cg4edqeghpt5ie4@4ax .com...


On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..


On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:


understand.


Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?


Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...


I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.


What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?


JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.


Rev. Eisboch


(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Heathen...


Arrrgh, must,...resist... saying......."Mackerel...Snaaapppp"

OH, sorry.... that was close, I almost said "mackerel snapper!"
*whew*


Tim October 3rd 07 12:34 PM

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On Oct 3, 4:55 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Heathen...


Int'l communion is this Sunday, and I'm in charge of it in my local
congrgation,

Wanna come over for a belt?


John H. October 3rd 07 12:43 PM

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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:04:26 -0400, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
snip...
Now, if you are asking if I've ever done it, yes. I am a Justice of
The Peace and a Notary Public.

I've even had the chance to be a Magistrate at Traffic Court for one
day - that was a blast.

HANG 'EM!!! :)



Hee hee... the 'Judge Roy Bean' comes to mind..
http://www.desertusa.com/mag98/aug/papr/du_roybean.html



"Hee hee"? Is that a Canadian thing?

http://tinyurl.com/2xzgch


No, I sometimes do the same thing when Doug Kanter calls me a hypocrite. He
gets ****ed 'cause I won't partake in his bull**** arguments.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 12:59 PM

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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:30:40 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 3, 4:55 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:21:19 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Oct 2, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:68o5g31ien120td0ps9cg4edqeghpt5ie4@4ax .com...


On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..


On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:


understand.


Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?


Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...


I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.


What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?


JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.


Rev. Eisboch


(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Heathen...


Arrrgh, must,...resist... saying......."Mackerel...Snaaapppp"

OH, sorry.... that was close, I almost said "mackerel snapper!"
*whew*


ROTFL!!!

Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 01:02 PM

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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:34:54 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 3, 4:55 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Heathen...


Int'l communion is this Sunday, and I'm in charge of it in my local
congrgation,

Wanna come over for a belt?


Well, thanks for the offer, but I'll take a pass.

Associating with known heathen apostates isn't on my top ten list of
things to do.

Actually, it's not on my list period. :)

John H. October 3rd 07 01:45 PM

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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:30:40 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 3, 4:55 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:21:19 -0700, Tim wrote:
On Oct 2, 7:32 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:68o5g31ien120td0ps9cg4edqeghpt5ie4@4ax .com...


On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:10:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..


On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:


understand.


Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?


Just curious.


Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state
of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the
rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...


I can't grant a divorce.


Really? Cool beans.


What denomination - Church of Sam Adams, Hearty Ale Synod?


JUST JOKING - JUST JOKING... :)


Depends on the season.


Rev. Eisboch


(PCUSA) Presbyterian Layman here..


Heathen...


Arrrgh, must,...resist... saying......."Mackerel...Snaaapppp"

OH, sorry.... that was close, I almost said "mackerel snapper!"
*whew*


That was my nickname while in 7th grade in La Monte, MO. At the time, the
population was about 490, and I think we were the only Catholic family in
town.

Tim October 3rd 07 02:05 PM

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On Oct 3, 7:02 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Well, thanks for the offer, but I'll take a pass.

Associating with known heathen apostates isn't on my top ten list of
things to do.

Actually, it's not on my list period. :)



But Tom, did you ever think that if it wasn't for people like you,
there wouldn't have been people like us?


Think about it

?: *)



Don White October 3rd 07 03:46 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...

No, I sometimes do the same thing when Doug Kanter calls me a hypocrite.
He
gets ****ed 'cause I won't partake in his bull**** arguments.


Plus our resident genius (Dingy Dan) is quoting our fellow poster from South
Carolina a number of times.
Not sure if our southern friend would be insulted or complimented when he's
lumped in with Canadians.



Don White October 3rd 07 03:50 PM

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"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 3, 7:02 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Well, thanks for the offer, but I'll take a pass.

Associating with known heathen apostates isn't on my top ten list of
things to do.

Actually, it's not on my list period. :)



But Tom, did you ever think that if it wasn't for people like you,
there wouldn't have been people like us?


Think about it

?: *)


You guys better be careful... or western style law & order will soon be
here to straighten you out.



Short Wave Sportfishing October 3rd 07 04:58 PM

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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:05:42 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 3, 7:02 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Well, thanks for the offer, but I'll take a pass.

Associating with known heathen apostates isn't on my top ten list of
things to do.

Actually, it's not on my list period. :)


But Tom, did you ever think that if it wasn't for people like you,
there wouldn't have been people like us?


Good point.

Tim October 3rd 07 07:09 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:05:42 -0700, Tim wrote:

On Oct 3, 7:02 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Well, thanks for the offer, but I'll take a pass.

Associating with known heathen apostates isn't on my top ten list of
things to do.

Actually, it's not on my list period. :)


But Tom, did you ever think that if it wasn't for people like you,
there wouldn't have been people like us?


Good point.



LOL!


Dan October 4th 07 12:34 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:58:45 -0700, Tim wrote:

understand.

Now, question is. Can you or ANY licensed capt. perform the same duty?

Just curious.



Hmmmm. Some also might be interested in a Deep Sea Fishing/Divorce
combo package, beer and sandwiches included.

--Vic


As an ordained minister and member of the clergy registered in the state of
MA, I can marry, baptize, bless, spit on, or otherwise perform all the rites
of a religious ceremony .... except ...

I can't grant a divorce.

Eisboch



Can you perform exorcisms on low transom vessels?

Dan

Dan October 4th 07 12:39 AM

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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
No, I sometimes do the same thing when Doug Kanter calls me a hypocrite.
He
gets ****ed 'cause I won't partake in his bull**** arguments.


Plus our resident genius (Dingy Dan) is quoting our fellow poster from South
Carolina a number of times.
Not sure if our southern friend would be insulted or complimented when he's
lumped in with Canadians.



What the hell are you talking about Don? How's your son? Did he
finally move out of "Don's Daycare"?



Don White October 4th 07 01:02 AM

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"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .


Can you perform exorcisms on low transom vessels?

Dan



Getting nervous?



Dan October 5th 07 12:55 AM

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Don White wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
Can you perform exorcisms on low transom vessels?

Dan



Getting nervous?




Again...what?


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