John H. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:18:24 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 2, 9:11?am, HK wrote:
...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

Third was on a Grady, also a repower, at the marina boat/motor repair
shop. Didn't stop to find out what was happening, of course.

Three eTecs. Never seen one running.

New technology!

:}
Stories like this often bring to mind one of the more memorable
conversations I had with a customer, 25 years ago when I was "on the
line" selling new Dodge cars and trucks.


I'm sure it does. However, I live adjacent to a huge body of water,
where there are thousands of outboard boaters, and the marina I use is
mostly populated by "fishing guys" with outboard boats. I've seen about
every brand of outboard *running* out of that marina, except Evinrude
eTecs. I keep hoping to see at least the cops out in the Whaler with the
eTec.

Speaking of your neck of the woods, do you know when the next 'flea market'
will be held at TriState? I've got a bunch of trolling stuff I want to get
rid of.


February 9, 2008.

On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:37:31 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:18:24 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 2, 9:11?am, HK wrote:
...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

Third was on a Grady, also a repower, at the marina boat/motor repair
shop. Didn't stop to find out what was happening, of course.

Three eTecs. Never seen one running.

New technology!

:}
Stories like this often bring to mind one of the more memorable
conversations I had with a customer, 25 years ago when I was "on the
line" selling new Dodge cars and trucks.


I'm sure it does. However, I live adjacent to a huge body of water,
where there are thousands of outboard boaters, and the marina I use is
mostly populated by "fishing guys" with outboard boats. I've seen about
every brand of outboard *running* out of that marina, except Evinrude
eTecs. I keep hoping to see at least the cops out in the Whaler with the
eTec.

Speaking of your neck of the woods, do you know when the next 'flea market'
will be held at TriState? I've got a bunch of trolling stuff I want to get
rid of.


February 9, 2008.

I thank you!

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 2, 9:11?am, HK wrote:
...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

Third was on a Grady, also a repower, at the marina boat/motor repair
shop. Didn't stop to find out what was happening, of course.

Three eTecs. Never seen one running.

New technology!

:}

Stories like this often bring to mind one of the more memorable
conversations I had with a customer, 25 years ago when I was "on the
line" selling new Dodge cars and trucks.

A couple walked in to look at one of the new Dodge cars, but they
didn't seem the least bit open minded. The conversation went something
like this:

"We're not really sure why we're here.Frankly, we just want to be
able to tell our friends we looked at an American car before we bought
a new Toyota."

"Why do you feel as if your final choice might be a Toyota?"

"They never, ever, break. We would expect to put at least a couple of
hundred thousand miles on a new Toyota before it ever even needed
serious service. Can you honestly say the same for your Dodge cars?"

"A couple of hundred thousand miles without even serious service? No,
I probably couldn't honestly claim that for a Dodge. Cars are still
built by human beings, and things do wear out. I can point out that we
have a 5-year 50,000 mile warranty on the powertrain, and I think
Toyota has either a 1 year 12,000 mile or a 2 year 24,000 mile
warranty- so if something should break on either car you would be
covered for a longer period of time with a Dodge."

"We're pretty sure we'd be using the warranty a lot if we bought one
of your Dodges, most American cars are real crap and I'm sure that
Dodge is no exception. But the warranty isn't a big factor with the
Toyota, the cars never ever break."

Realizing that I was running full speed ahead down a dead end alley
with a brick wall approaching pretty quickly, I bailed out of any sort
of serious salesmanship and asked,

"Why do you feel that the Toyota would never break?"

"Our son-in-law told us so."

"I see. Does your son-in-law own a Toyota?"

"You bet he does. In fact, he works as a mechanic for the Toyota
dealership just down the street!"

Now convinced that all hope was lost.....(how would they ever explain
to their daughter and son-in-law if they came home with anything
except a Toyota from the son-in-law's employer?), I replied, "Oh, I'm
really sorry to hear that. I imagine that must be awfully difficult
for your daughter."

"What do you mean by that remark?!" demanded the male customer.

"I mean it must be difficult for your daughter if she's married to a
man who tries to make a living repairing something that never, ever
breaks. I'll have to check out the shop next time I'd down around the
Toyota store, I'm sure it must be a 2-3 man operation and very quiet.
Probably not a lot of potential for future advancement in an operation
like that."

********


Point being, the service department out back normally occupies a whole
lot more square footage (and generates a whole lot more profit) than
the sales showroom up front. I don't see any real difference between
marine and automotive establishments in that regard, regardless of
brand name.

Except if it's a Toyota dealership or maybe a few other brands.


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HK wrote in
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...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

About then, some smartass barely touches the starter on his Honda, which
cranks instantly, and he drives off towards his fishing hole, never saying
a word....(c;

"Larry" wrote in message
...
HK wrote in
:

...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

About then, some smartass barely touches the starter on his Honda, which
cranks instantly, and he drives off towards his fishing hole, never saying
a word....(c;


A guy I know recently repowered his Grady with new, twin Honda 225's. What
sweet running engines! The 4 stroke Yamahas are smooth and quiet but still
don't compare to the Honda IMO.

eTec just sounds weird .... but not as bad as the Mercury OptiMax or
whatever it's called.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
HK wrote in
:

...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.
About then, some smartass barely touches the starter on his Honda, which
cranks instantly, and he drives off towards his fishing hole, never saying
a word....(c;


A guy I know recently repowered his Grady with new, twin Honda 225's. What
sweet running engines! The 4 stroke Yamahas are smooth and quiet but still
don't compare to the Honda IMO.

eTec just sounds weird .... but not as bad as the Mercury OptiMax or
whatever it's called.

Eisboch




At idle, the Optimax I had sounded like Porsche Super Coupe...the bucket
of bolts effect.

"Eisboch" wrote in
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A guy I know recently repowered his Grady with new, twin Honda
225's.
What sweet running engines!

There are two 90hp Hondas on the big pontoon boat taxi running
back and forth across Charleston Harbor from Patriots Point
Museum to the main peninsula at the tourista/cruise dock.

I asked the captain how many hours are on them. He said he
didn't know any more as the hourmeters didn't last THAT long...
(c;

He was thinking about buying them some new impellers when they
changed the oil in them....

Larry
--
Please - Turn OFF cruise control when
you turn on windshield wipers!

Larry wrote:
HK wrote in
:

...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

About then, some smartass barely touches the starter on his Honda, which
cranks instantly, and he drives off towards his fishing hole, never saying
a word....(c;



Not many Hondas around here, either. Good engines, though. Most popular
outboards around here are four stroke Yamahas, followed by many
different kinds of Mercury engines, followed by "old" Evinrudes,
followed by Suzuki four strokes, then Hondas. I'm not counting the small
engines, since I don't pay any attention to them.

"Larry" wrote in message
...
HK wrote in
:

...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

About then, some smartass barely touches the starter on his Honda, which
cranks instantly, and he drives off towards his fishing hole, never saying
a word....(c;



That must have been me.

I can just give mine a "look"..... and it will start.


db

HK wrote:
...for a total of three.

The first is on the cop boat that never leaves its slip.

Second was on a ProLine 21, looked like a repower. Floating in the
launch ramp area, with the operator trying again and again to get the
engine started. Engine turned, coughed and sputtered. Problem unknown to
me.

Third was on a Grady, also a repower, at the marina boat/motor repair
shop. Didn't stop to find out what was happening, of course.

Three eTecs. Never seen one running.

New technology!

:}

I ahve yet to see the first one, outside of a picture. I've boated on
Carlyle many, many times and have seen some excellent craft, none E-
Tec equiped (that I know of)