On Sep 29, 5:28 am, "Billybong" wrote:
This is proof positive that the N.Y. Times is an enemy of Americans and
makes me happy that I decided to
boycott buy that enemy propaganda rag many years ago. Of course the "Times"
carefully avoid using the politically
incorrect (but accurate) term of "illegal aliens" in favor of the less
offensive term "immigrants." Happily the
implications of Gov. Spitzer's outrageous action is finally sinking in.
Also, the real reason for Spitzer's
action is being talked about. He is trying to divert attention from his
using the New York State police to
spy on a Republican opponent.

N.Y. Times Editorial
Political License in New Yorkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/29/opinion/29sat2.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Published: September 29, 2007

When Gov. Eliot Spitzer decided this month to make it easier for immigrants
to drive legally, his critics predicted the sky would fall on anyone with a
New York State driver's license. Even Mayor Michael Bloomberg, normally a
measured voice, warned that New Yorkers might not be able to use their
licenses to get on airplanes if the governor has his way.
That is not so as it turns out. Or certainly, it will not be so for some
time yet. If Congress fails to change the Real ID Act - a clunker of a law
passed two years ago - state driver's licenses will have to be re-engineered
by 2013 to be accepted as federal identification. Until then, New York's
licenses will be as good in the security lines at the airports as those from
the eight other states that do not require proof of immigration status to
drive.
So far, no state licenses comply with the tough Real ID standards. The list
of requirements includes a special paper stock with secret markers, laser
engraving, mandatory re-licensing in person and not by mail, proof of
residence and, in most cases, a Social Security card.
Some states have already opted out of Real ID, citing costs that should be -
but are not - borne by Washington, privacy concerns and questions about
whether Real ID would actually be more secure. If the law goes into effect
as written and passenger regulations stay the same, residents of many of
these states would need another form of identification, such as a passport,
to board a plane.
Governor Spitzer has not said whether he wants New York to opt out of the
Real ID law. He is expected to ask for more time from the federal
authorities to figure out whether and how to offer a New York driver's
license that complies with the law. One possibility would be a two-tiered
system in which residents who want the more elaborate Real ID pay extra for
it after 2013. Among the problems with such an approach is that the creation
of a lesser license could mean more harassment of anyone who tries to use
it.
Republican opposition to Mr. Spitzer's move has taken a strident
anti-immigrant tone that is unwelcome in this discussion. State Senator
Joseph Bruno, New York's top elected Republican, got it right initially when
he said he could "understand the merits" of Mr. Spitzer's proposal. Too bad
he soon joined other Republicans and accused the governor of trying to give
illegal immigrants the right to vote. It is a baseless claim since New
Yorkers do not need a driver's license to vote, and the criminal laws
against vote fraud provide ample deterrent to any illegal immigrant thinking
of casting a ballot.
Mr. Spitzer has made the right decision. New York State driver's licenses
should go to residents who have proved their identity - and their ability to
drive safely. There will be plenty of time between now and 2013 to figure
out whether and how New York State should integrate its driver's license
with federal standards.

On Sep 29, 5:37 am, Ted wrote:
On Sep 29, 5:28 am, "Billybong" wrote:

This is proof positive that the N.Y. Times is an enemy of Americans

The New York Times just endorses what it's told to endorse..

I'm much more concern with US state officials promoting criminal
activity - which is exactly what illegal immigration is. I thought
such behavior was *criminal* itself.

On Sep 29, 7:34 am, wrote:
On Sep 29, 5:37 am, Ted wrote:

On Sep 29, 5:28 am, "Billybong" wrote:

This is proof positive that the N.Y. Times is an enemy of Americans

The New York Times just endorses what it's told to endorse..

hahahahahahaha.


I'm much more concern with US state officials promoting criminal
activity - which is exactly what illegal immigration is. I thought
such behavior was *criminal* itself.

You thought wrong. It's not a crime, it's a civil infraction.

damn, you anti-immigration k000ks are dumb.

hint: maybe you should study the subject, FIRST.