To my conservative friends, please look beyond the fact that this
amendment is sponsored by a Democrat and if your senator serves on the
Senate Commerce Committee please consider urging her or him to support
the amendment. Voting is scheduled for early this PM. Thanks.....

Dear BoatUS Member,

WE NEED YOU TO MAKE A PHONE CALL!

Yesterday, BoatUS Government Affairs learned about a fast-moving
opportunity that could offer a potential solution to the EPA boat
discharge permit issue. We need you to pick up the phone and call your
Senator (who serves on the 23-member Senate Commerce Committee), and
urge them to vote "Yes" for Senator Nelson's amendment to Senate Bill
1578.

This vote takes place on Thursday September 27 at 2:30 pm (Eastern
time).

It is critical that you call now.

Background:
As a result of a 2006 court decision, the EPA is required to develop
and implement a permit system before September 30, 2008 for all normal
operational discharges from every vessel in the U.S. Unfortunately,
while the real focus of the court case was the ballast water and
resulting aquatic nuisance species from ocean-going ships, every
vessel in the U.S. was included in the EPA mandate.

BoatUS has been working with others in the boating industry to pass
federal legislation (H.R. 2550 and S. 2067) to exempt recreational
boats from this permit. (For more information see
http://www.boatus.com/gov/dischargepermits.asp). Senator Nelson's
amendment offers another opportunity to address this problem.

What is Senator Nelson's Amendment?
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) has proposed an amendment to Senate Bill
1578 (The Ballast Water Management Act of 2007). The amendment would
require a study on the incidental discharges from vessels, and an
exemption from federal permitting for all normal operational
discharges from vessels (except aquatic nuisance species). Existing
restrictions on the overboard discharge of oil/fuel, garbage, and
sewage would remain.

So what do I need to do?
Right now, call your federal Senator (listed below). Tell the person
answering the phone you are calling in reference to Senate Bill 1578.



Ask the Senator (or their staff) to vote "Yes" for the Nelson
Amendment to Senate Bill 1578 on Ballast Water. Help them know the
urgent timing - the vote is at 2:30 Thursday (Eastern time) at the
Commerce Committee markup in room SR 253.)


Help them understand how important boating is to you and your family.


Help them know your concern if this amendment does not pass and you
are required to have a permit for each of your boats, in each state
where you want to boat.


Quickly forward this email to your boating friends and club members.



(Some Senate offices close at 6 pm, and some will have answering
machines. If your call doesn't go through on Wednesday night, please
try again in the morning.)

Senate Commerce Committee Members:

Vice Chairman Ted Stevens Alaska (202)224-3004
Senator John McCain Arizona (202)224-2235
Senator Mark Pryor Arkansas (202)224-2353
Senator Barbara Boxer California (202)224-3553
Senator Thomas Carper Delaware (202)224-2441
Chairman Daniel Inouye Hawaii (202)224-3934
Senator David Vitter Louisiana (202)224-4623
Senator Olympia J. Snowe Maine (202)224-5344
Senator John F. Kerry Massachusetts (202)224-2742
Senator Amy Klobuchar Minnesota (202)224-3244
Senator Trent Lott Mississippi (202)224-6253
Senator Claire McCaskill Missouri (202)224-6154
Senator John Ensign Nevada (202)224-6244
Senator John Sununu New Hampshire (202)224-2841
Senator Frank Lautenberg New Jersey (202)224-3224
Senator Byron Dorgan North Dakota (202)224-2551
Senator Gordon Smith Oregon (202)224-3753
Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121
Senator John Thune South Dakota (202)224-2321
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson Texas (202)224-5922
Senator Maria Cantwell Washington (202)224-3441
Senator John D. Rockefeller West Virginia (202)224-6472

Thanks for your continued support in helping boating!

Sincerely,

Margaret Podlich

BoatUS Government Affairs

703-461-2864 or 703-461-2878 x8363



*****

On Sep 27, 1:18 am, Chuck Gould wrote:
To my conservative friends, please look beyond the fact that this
amendment is sponsored by a Democrat and if your senator serves on the
Senate Commerce Committee please consider urging her or him to support
the amendment. Voting is scheduled for early this PM. Thanks.....

Dear BoatUS Member,

WE NEED YOU TO MAKE A PHONE CALL!

Yesterday, BoatUS Government Affairs learned about a fast-moving
opportunity that could offer a potential solution to the EPA boat
discharge permit issue. We need you to pick up the phone and call your
Senator (who serves on the 23-member Senate Commerce Committee), and
urge them to vote "Yes" for Senator Nelson's amendment to Senate Bill
1578.

This vote takes place on Thursday September 27 at 2:30 pm (Eastern
time).

It is critical that you call now.

Background:
As a result of a 2006 court decision, the EPA is required to develop
and implement a permit system before September 30, 2008 for all normal
operational discharges from every vessel in the U.S. Unfortunately,
while the real focus of the court case was the ballast water and
resulting aquatic nuisance species from ocean-going ships, every
vessel in the U.S. was included in the EPA mandate.

BoatUS has been working with others in the boating industry to pass
federal legislation (H.R. 2550 and S. 2067) to exempt recreational
boats from this permit. (For more information seehttp://www.boatus.com/gov/dischargepermits.asp). Senator Nelson's
amendment offers another opportunity to address this problem.

What is Senator Nelson's Amendment?
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) has proposed an amendment to Senate Bill
1578 (The Ballast Water Management Act of 2007). The amendment would
require a study on the incidental discharges from vessels, and an
exemption from federal permitting for all normal operational
discharges from vessels (except aquatic nuisance species). Existing
restrictions on the overboard discharge of oil/fuel, garbage, and
sewage would remain.

So what do I need to do?
Right now, call your federal Senator (listed below). Tell the person
answering the phone you are calling in reference to Senate Bill 1578.

Ask the Senator (or their staff) to vote "Yes" for the Nelson
Amendment to Senate Bill 1578 on Ballast Water. Help them know the
urgent timing - the vote is at 2:30 Thursday (Eastern time) at the
Commerce Committee markup in room SR 253.)

Help them understand how important boating is to you and your family.

Help them know your concern if this amendment does not pass and you
are required to have a permit for each of your boats, in each state
where you want to boat.

Quickly forward this email to your boating friends and club members.

(Some Senate offices close at 6 pm, and some will have answering
machines. If your call doesn't go through on Wednesday night, please
try again in the morning.)

Senate Commerce Committee Members:

Vice Chairman Ted Stevens Alaska (202)224-3004
Senator John McCain Arizona (202)224-2235
Senator Mark Pryor Arkansas (202)224-2353
Senator Barbara Boxer California (202)224-3553
Senator Thomas Carper Delaware (202)224-2441
Chairman Daniel Inouye Hawaii (202)224-3934
Senator David Vitter Louisiana (202)224-4623
Senator Olympia J. Snowe Maine (202)224-5344
Senator John F. Kerry Massachusetts (202)224-2742
Senator Amy Klobuchar Minnesota (202)224-3244
Senator Trent Lott Mississippi (202)224-6253
Senator Claire McCaskill Missouri (202)224-6154
Senator John Ensign Nevada (202)224-6244
Senator John Sununu New Hampshire (202)224-2841
Senator Frank Lautenberg New Jersey (202)224-3224
Senator Byron Dorgan North Dakota (202)224-2551
Senator Gordon Smith Oregon (202)224-3753
Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121
Senator John Thune South Dakota (202)224-2321
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson Texas (202)224-5922
Senator Maria Cantwell Washington (202)224-3441
Senator John D. Rockefeller West Virginia (202)224-6472

Thanks for your continued support in helping boating!

Sincerely,

Margaret Podlich

BoatUS Government Affairs

703-461-2864 or 703-461-2878 x8363

*****

Oh well, my senator is off... OOOOps.. Don't want to say that about a
lib, someone might post pictures of my kids or something.

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 27, 1:18 am, Chuck Gould wrote:
To my conservative friends, please look beyond the fact that this
amendment is sponsored by a Democrat and if your senator serves on the
Senate Commerce Committee please consider urging her or him to support
the amendment. Voting is scheduled for early this PM. Thanks.....

Dear BoatUS Member,

WE NEED YOU TO MAKE A PHONE CALL!

Yesterday, BoatUS Government Affairs learned about a fast-moving
opportunity that could offer a potential solution to the EPA boat
discharge permit issue. We need you to pick up the phone and call your
Senator (who serves on the 23-member Senate Commerce Committee), and
urge them to vote "Yes" for Senator Nelson's amendment to Senate Bill
1578.

This vote takes place on Thursday September 27 at 2:30 pm (Eastern
time).

It is critical that you call now.

Background:
As a result of a 2006 court decision, the EPA is required to develop
and implement a permit system before September 30, 2008 for all normal
operational discharges from every vessel in the U.S. Unfortunately,
while the real focus of the court case was the ballast water and
resulting aquatic nuisance species from ocean-going ships, every
vessel in the U.S. was included in the EPA mandate.

BoatUS has been working with others in the boating industry to pass
federal legislation (H.R. 2550 and S. 2067) to exempt recreational
boats from this permit. (For more information
seehttp://www.boatus.com/gov/dischargepermits.asp). Senator Nelson's
amendment offers another opportunity to address this problem.

What is Senator Nelson's Amendment?
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) has proposed an amendment to Senate Bill
1578 (The Ballast Water Management Act of 2007). The amendment would
require a study on the incidental discharges from vessels, and an
exemption from federal permitting for all normal operational
discharges from vessels (except aquatic nuisance species). Existing
restrictions on the overboard discharge of oil/fuel, garbage, and
sewage would remain.

So what do I need to do?
Right now, call your federal Senator (listed below). Tell the person
answering the phone you are calling in reference to Senate Bill 1578.

Ask the Senator (or their staff) to vote "Yes" for the Nelson
Amendment to Senate Bill 1578 on Ballast Water. Help them know the
urgent timing - the vote is at 2:30 Thursday (Eastern time) at the
Commerce Committee markup in room SR 253.)

Help them understand how important boating is to you and your family.

Help them know your concern if this amendment does not pass and you
are required to have a permit for each of your boats, in each state
where you want to boat.

Quickly forward this email to your boating friends and club members.

(Some Senate offices close at 6 pm, and some will have answering
machines. If your call doesn't go through on Wednesday night, please
try again in the morning.)

Senate Commerce Committee Members:

Vice Chairman Ted Stevens Alaska (202)224-3004
Senator John McCain Arizona (202)224-2235
Senator Mark Pryor Arkansas (202)224-2353
Senator Barbara Boxer California (202)224-3553
Senator Thomas Carper Delaware (202)224-2441
Chairman Daniel Inouye Hawaii (202)224-3934
Senator David Vitter Louisiana (202)224-4623
Senator Olympia J. Snowe Maine (202)224-5344
Senator John F. Kerry Massachusetts (202)224-2742
Senator Amy Klobuchar Minnesota (202)224-3244
Senator Trent Lott Mississippi (202)224-6253
Senator Claire McCaskill Missouri (202)224-6154
Senator John Ensign Nevada (202)224-6244
Senator John Sununu New Hampshire (202)224-2841
Senator Frank Lautenberg New Jersey (202)224-3224
Senator Byron Dorgan North Dakota (202)224-2551
Senator Gordon Smith Oregon (202)224-3753
Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121
Senator John Thune South Dakota (202)224-2321
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson Texas (202)224-5922
Senator Maria Cantwell Washington (202)224-3441
Senator John D. Rockefeller West Virginia (202)224-6472

Thanks for your continued support in helping boating!

Sincerely,

Margaret Podlich

BoatUS Government Affairs

703-461-2864 or 703-461-2878 x8363

*****

Oh well, my senator is off... OOOOps.. Don't want to say that about a
lib, someone might post pictures of my kids or something.


Hmm...censorship through fear. What a tradition.

On Sep 27, 6:49?am, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:
In oglegroups.com, Chuck
Gould sprach forth the following:

To my conservative friends, please look beyond the fact that this
amendment is sponsored by a Democrat and if your senator serves on the
Senate Commerce Committee please consider urging her or him to support
the amendment. Voting is scheduled for early this PM. Thanks.....

Is this a committee vote or a full Senate vote? None of my Senators are on
the committee.

It's a Senate Commerce Committee vote.

Chuck Gould wrote in
ups.com:

Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121


Done. Talked to Jim, himself, for about 4 minutes. Of course, he wouldn't
commit one way or the other before putting his finger in the air to sense
the breeze of corporate campaign money from the lobbyists, who control his
vote not the people of South Carolina, just like the rest of them.

You Neocon Republican boaters need to make a note that the senator who
sponsored the amendment to save your ass is a DEMOCAN, not a Republicrat,
which I find very enlightening. His boat lobby stands to lose a bundle, I
suppose.


Larry
--
With all the candidates working for the CFR and the bankers for decades,
does it really matter?

With Diebold's hacked software making the outcome of any election up to the
CFR hackers.....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GzPXer7946E
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8JESZiLpBLE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XedDoYD_YGY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UfGvSJA20-Y

On Sep 27, 8:16?am, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:
In oglegroups.com,
Chuck Gould sprach forth the following:

On Sep 27, 6:49?am, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:
In oglegroups.com,
Chuck Gould sprach forth the following:

To my conservative friends, please look beyond the fact that this
amendment is sponsored by a Democrat and if your senator serves on
the Senate Commerce Committee please consider urging her or him to
support the amendment. Voting is scheduled for early this PM.
Thanks.....

Is this a committee vote or a full Senate vote? None of my Senators
are on the committee.

It's a Senate Commerce Committee vote.

OK thanks. What's the difference between S.2067 (which has 7 co-sponsors,
all Republicans, and is in the Environment & Public Works Committee) and
S.1578 (introduced by Inouye and co-sponsored only by Ted "Bridge To
Nowhere" Stevens)

Don't actually know, but this specific course of action was
recommended by non-partisan Boat US, an organization that has been
actively monitoring the entire discharge/permit/bilgewater snafu.

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , Larry sprach
forth the following:

Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121


Done. Talked to Jim, himself, for about 4 minutes. Of course, he
wouldn't commit one way or the other before putting his finger in the
air to sense the breeze of corporate campaign money from the lobbyists,
who control his vote not the people of South Carolina, just like the
rest of them.

You Neocon Republican boaters need to make a note that the senator who
sponsored the amendment to save your ass is a DEMOCAN, not a
Republicrat, which I find very enlightening. His boat lobby stands to
lose a bundle, I suppose.

You may have DeMint (R-SC) confused with DeWine (former R-OH). DeMint is
one of the Senate's few pork-busters, and he even took the classical Davey
Crockett position on federal disaster "relief" (i.e.: it's ineffective and
unconstitutional).

What does he think the government should do if, for instance, an entire
community is wiped out by a storm, fire, or whatever?

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:57:53 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
.. .
In message , Larry sprach
forth the following:

Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121


Done. Talked to Jim, himself, for about 4 minutes. Of course, he
wouldn't commit one way or the other before putting his finger in the
air to sense the breeze of corporate campaign money from the lobbyists,
who control his vote not the people of South Carolina, just like the
rest of them.

You Neocon Republican boaters need to make a note that the senator who
sponsored the amendment to save your ass is a DEMOCAN, not a
Republicrat, which I find very enlightening. His boat lobby stands to
lose a bundle, I suppose.

You may have DeMint (R-SC) confused with DeWine (former R-OH). DeMint
is
one of the Senate's few pork-busters, and he even took the classical
Davey
Crockett position on federal disaster "relief" (i.e.: it's ineffective
and
unconstitutional).

What does he think the government should do if, for instance, an entire
community is wiped out by a storm, fire, or whatever?


Plant alfalfa?

Great. The newsgroup drunk checks in early today. Hi, John.

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:41:49 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:57:53 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , Larry
sprach
forth the following:

Senator Jim De Mint South Carolina (202)224-6121


Done. Talked to Jim, himself, for about 4 minutes. Of course, he
wouldn't commit one way or the other before putting his finger in the
air to sense the breeze of corporate campaign money from the
lobbyists,
who control his vote not the people of South Carolina, just like the
rest of them.

You Neocon Republican boaters need to make a note that the senator
who
sponsored the amendment to save your ass is a DEMOCAN, not a
Republicrat, which I find very enlightening. His boat lobby stands
to
lose a bundle, I suppose.

You may have DeMint (R-SC) confused with DeWine (former R-OH). DeMint
is
one of the Senate's few pork-busters, and he even took the classical
Davey
Crockett position on federal disaster "relief" (i.e.: it's ineffective
and
unconstitutional).

What does he think the government should do if, for instance, an entire
community is wiped out by a storm, fire, or whatever?


Plant alfalfa?

Great. The newsgroup drunk checks in early today. Hi, John.


Hi back. Where did the 'drunk' bit come from? Hell, I haven't imbibed
anything stronger than Metamucil for almost twenty years.

Are you sneaking something into the water supply, or are you just at a
loss
for names to call? Here, this will add spice to your life, even though
Harry will probably charge me a penny for using it!

*****************************
Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from "Doug Kanter",
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.
*****************************

When you respond to a serious question with "Plant alfalfa?", it's a
giveaway as to your condition, John. Maybe it's not booze. See your doctor.
It could be something much more serious.

"John H." wrote in message
...


*****************************
Here's yet another of the many daily attacks from "Doug Kanter",
a frequent rec.boats poster, and if you count them up, you will see how
little he adds here in boating/fishing content or interesting reading.
*****************************

Don't say inane things, and I won't jump all over you. Deal?


How that Whaler?