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A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose
clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch Ahhh. Perhaps they learned how to index down at the Parker factory... :} |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch You sure it wasn't just a nightmare? If it was, how did you get the picture? 8) |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch Are you sure all your screws are tight? Better torque them. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch Ahhh. Perhaps they learned how to index down at the Parker factory... :} Better check yours also. I'm sure you have a few loose ones. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch With Torex heads, you'd never have to worry about that. |
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On Sep 24, 8:11 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch Absolutly beautiful. Got any more pics of that boat on line?? |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:11:05 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. Maybe, but when I see that kind of precision, I think machine. http://www.visumatic.com/hh/hh_vlb900ps.html |
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On Sep 24, 9:37 am, thunder wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:11:05 -0400, Eisboch wrote: All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. Maybe, but when I see that kind of precision, I think machine. http://www.visumatic.com/hh/hh_vlb900ps.html Hey, what's wrong with that. Just because they came up with a better screwdriver, does not mean the craftsmanship is not "old school". The end result is the right materials, used properly. And personally I suggest that in this case the "old school" practice of aligning the screwheads may be more than aesthetics. It also makes it much easier to do a quick check as to any screws that may be coming loose. This could also make it easier to spot potential problems under the strakes sooner. If one screw is out of place, it's time to do some investigating... Just some thoughts from my perspective;) |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:42:57 +0000, justwaitafrekinminute wrote:
http://www.visumatic.com/hh/hh_vlb900ps.html Hey, what's wrong with that. Absolutely nothing. If I were installing 250 screws, I certainly wouldn't be using a manual screwdriver. Just because they came up with a better screwdriver, does not mean the craftsmanship is not "old school". The end result is the right materials, used properly. And personally I suggest that in this case the "old school" practice of aligning the screwheads may be more than aesthetics. It also makes it much easier to do a quick check as to any screws that may be coming loose. This could also make it easier to spot potential problems under the strakes sooner. If one screw is out of place, it's time to do some investigating... Just some thoughts from my perspective;) Good point, although I usually find screws embedded in wood don't back out, they pull out. |
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On Sep 24, 5:11?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch That's one of the "quality control" features the salespeople show prospects for a new GB. Been a GB tradition for many, many years and it's still in practice. |
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Eisboch wrote:
A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch I always enjoy a good screw while lying in the aft cabin. |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:11:05 -0400, Eisboch wrote: All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. Maybe, but when I see that kind of precision, I think machine. http://www.visumatic.com/hh/hh_vlb900ps.html Possible, but doubtful. Think Singapore, 1982. Eisboch |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. I always enjoy a good screw while lying in the aft cabin. Perfectly aligned? Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. I always enjoy a good screw while lying in the aft cabin. Perfectly aligned? Eisboch Eisboch, To be perfectly honest with you, I like it either way, aligned or a little cocked to the side. |
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On Sep 24, 8:53?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
I always enjoy a good screw while lying in the aft cabin.- Hide quoted text - But if each in a long series is exactly identical one could probably make a strong case that a little variety would relieve monotony, (or at least reinforce monogamy). I have no idea how GB gets all those screws to line up perfectly, but I'm certain their fastener supplier ensures each screw comes complete with proper head. |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:53?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" I always enjoy a good screw while lying in the aft cabin.- Hide quoted text - But if each in a long series is exactly identical one could probably make a strong case that a little variety would relieve monotony, (or at least reinforce monogamy). I have no idea how GB gets all those screws to line up perfectly, but I'm certain their fastener supplier ensures each screw comes complete with proper head. The screw heads are glued on later after the nails are countersunk. :| |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:53?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" I always enjoy a good screw while lying in the aft cabin.- Hide quoted text - But if each in a long series is exactly identical one could probably make a strong case that a little variety would relieve monotony, (or at least reinforce monogamy). I have no idea how GB gets all those screws to line up perfectly, but I'm certain their fastener supplier ensures each screw comes complete with proper head. You can never go wrong with good head. |
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"Don White" wrote in news:46f7b618$0$4043
: With Torex heads, you'd never have to worry about that. All the pop rivets on a Bayliner line up, perfectly! Larry -- "Old World Craftsmanship"....two minimum wage guys with chopper guns. |
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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
: Eisboch, To be perfectly honest with you, I like it either way, aligned or a little cocked to the side. Even upside down is great! The slots don't even have to line up straight! Larry -- |
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On Sep 24, 1:13 pm, Larry wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in news:zb-dnWOzy67 : That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. Yeah, he drives 'em in with the screw gun, then leaves it against the rachet buzzing away until the slot aligns like his boss told him to....because they knew you'd be looking. Wonder how many they stripped out doing this? Head alignment is MUCH more important than proper torque, I can see. Larry -- With wood you can with some effort align heads and have torque within tolerance. Especially if you are using a good consistant material. |
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Larry wrote: All the pop rivets on a Bayliner line up, perfectly! Larry -- "Old World Craftsmanship"....two minimum wage guys with chopper guns. LOL! |
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Tim wrote in news:1190660903.791137.57240
@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com: Larry wrote: All the pop rivets on a Bayliner line up, perfectly! Larry -- "Old World Craftsmanship"....two minimum wage guys with chopper guns. LOL! These guys just gotta go visit a BOAT manufacturer and talk to the "Old World Craftsmen" to build them. Absolutely no expense is spared. They spend weeks building a 55' Sea Ray out of absolutely the finest materials on the planet. Only the finest appliances, hand built plumbing, teflon insulated wires, all NASA specifications stuff just like the Shuttle has, installed only by certified technicians who have been to school, like NASA engineers, for years and years of intensive training. To hell with the profit margin, which is held to a bare minimum just to stay in business and give nothing but the finest quality Sea Ray to the very satisfied customers. Nothing ever breaks or falls apart on any fine yacht Brunswick and the other fine, upstanding yacht manufacturers build. Yachts built by slaves in foreign countries for pennies on the dollar, too, have nothing but the finest craftsmen-slaves driven by the most gifted slavers and overseers on the planet. Never mind these slaves work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week until they drop from exhaustion! This has nothing to do with the finest-quality products because the slaves are SO proud of their work for almost nothing they don't even need to take their families, back in the shanty town up the hill, a decent wage. Replacement slaves, who take up the company banner as soon as older slaves drop dead from exhaustion, have been trained for years and years at fantastic expense in the company's slave training facilities, hidden away deep in the hills overlooking the town. Larry -- BULL****! They're all made just like the cheap 12V plastic fan Waste Marine sells for $120.....just as cheap as they can get the customers to buy. We lined up the nail heads to make him think so! (Thanks, Harry, that was wonderful...(c;) They're just lucky WalMart doesn't have a Yacht Department! |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... -- BULL****! They're all made just like the cheap 12V plastic fan Waste Marine sells for $120.....just as cheap as they can get the customers to buy. We lined up the nail heads to make him think so! (Thanks, Harry, that was wonderful...(c;) They're just lucky WalMart doesn't have a Yacht Department! Are you the same Larry that owned that fabulous Regal? Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in
: Are you the same Larry that owned that fabulous Regal? Eisboch Nope...Never had a Regal. Larry -- Search youtube for "Depleted Uranium" The ultimate dirty bomb...... |
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If I aligned every screw that I have ever had they would also end up in Asia..
Now they are beginning to point south , time for the big V. HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch Ahhh. Perhaps they learned how to index down at the Parker factory... :} |
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On Sep 24, 11:06?am, wrote:
On Sep 24, 1:13 pm, Larry wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in news:zb-dnWOzy67 : That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. Yeah, he drives 'em in with the screw gun, then leaves it against the rachet buzzing away until the slot aligns like his boss told him to....because they knew you'd be looking. Wonder how many they stripped out doing this? Head alignment is MUCH more important than proper torque, I can see. Larry -- With wood you can with some effort align heads and have torque within tolerance. Especially if you are using a good consistant material.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Particularly with Phillips heads- where you're never talking more than 1/4 turn to get a NSEW alignment of the slots. |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:38:19 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: On Sep 24, 11:06?am, wrote: On Sep 24, 1:13 pm, Larry wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in news:zb-dnWOzy67 : That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. Yeah, he drives 'em in with the screw gun, then leaves it against the rachet buzzing away until the slot aligns like his boss told him to....because they knew you'd be looking. Wonder how many they stripped out doing this? Head alignment is MUCH more important than proper torque, I can see. Larry -- With wood you can with some effort align heads and have torque within tolerance. Especially if you are using a good consistant material.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Particularly with Phillips heads- where you're never talking more than 1/4 turn to get a NSEW alignment of the slots. I first learned about "indexing" screws here. I have given it some thought. I am not impressed. I have done my share of woodwork screwing, and made a couple attempts to "index." I discarded it because a screw is best fastened consistently in wood by feel. Agree it can be done more easily with a Phillips, but it is also less evident cosmetically. So I'll just come out and say it: Indexing is a load of crap. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... So I'll just come out and say it: Indexing is a load of crap. --Vic Tell that to the (probably elderly by now) Singapore workabee. Eisboch |
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Even if he had to strip one or two to get them to line up?
JR Eisboch wrote: A few weeks back there was a discussion regarding the tightening of hose clamps and the alignment of the screw heads. The other night, while laying on the bunk in the aft cabin of the GB, watching the Sox on TV, I happened to notice the teak planking that lines the bulkhead interior of the cabin. I noticed the straight lines of the single slotted screws that hold the planking and then realized that every screw head was perfectly aligned horizontally. Jumping out of the bunk, I checked the other side, which is more complex because the planking also forms a shelf above the port single bunk, and sure enough, all the screw heads were perfectly aligned on that side in the same manner. Inspecting the forward, V-berth cabin and it's teak side planking revealed the same attention to detail. All in all, I counted over 250 stainless, single slotted screws that some poor guy in Singapore tediously installed with every screw head in perfect alignment. That kind of old school craftsmanship and tradition is not found much anymore. http://www.eisboch.com/screws.jpg Eisboch -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:38:19 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: Particularly with Phillips heads- where you're never talking more than 1/4 turn to get a NSEW alignment of the slots. =================================== Check your math, looks like 1/8th turn max to me. |
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