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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:39:26 -0400, JimH wrote: Let nature take it's course with the pike in CA.........Mother Nature and the natural food chain a way of working things out. ;-) But mother nature didn't take it's course. Man was involved in putting the pike there. History is full of invasive species wreaking havoc. Seen any American Chestnut trees lately? Elm trees? Estimated damage and control cost of invasive species in the US amount to more than $138 billion annually. Isn't man a part of nature? |
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![]() "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:15:01 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: But like Captain Ahab or perhaps Wile E. Coyote, the state has not let a little adversity stop it. This is the best line in the article. And here's the real reason for the poisoning. "After the poisoning is complete - and all the dead fish are scooped out of the water - the lake will be tested for toxicity, and will remain closed for two months, Mr. Martarano said. After that, restocking will begin, with a goal of one million trout in Lake Davis by 2010." I've fired off a letter to Trout Unlimited to see if they are involved with this in any way. I give them a fair amount of money every year and this better not have been on the national agenda. I can understand their concern about an invasive fish, upsetting the ecosystem, but they really do seem like Wile E.Coyote. I did check up on Rotenone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotenone. I don't believe I would get back in the lake for a LONG time. Yeah, but so many morons have been hypnotized (or bribed) by the chemical industry. I'm sure the state will be lying to people about the safety of rotenone as soon as the lake is opened. Is a short lived poison only toxic to gilled animals. Plus they Rotenoned the lake a couple of years ago. Seems as if we did not create any Blobs. Yet. Since chemicals like that have not and cannot be PROPERLY tested on humans, we will NEVER know if they are safe. According to the chemical industry, animal tests are not a valid method for predicting the effects on humans, so that argument is no longer permissible. Sure it is. You may not like it. But is a permissible argument. And since it has been used lots of places without any noticable impact on humans since, we can assume it is not that affecting to humans. We live with a lot more chemicals that are a lot worse for us and we are required to use them. Where are your arguments against their use? In a laboratory, a scientist can exercise quite a bit of control to be sure a rat is not being exposed to dioxin, so when they are testing the toxicity of some other thing, they know it wasn't dioxin that caused a problem. It's practically impossible to set up the same situation for human testing, which is why any scientist worth his salt will tell you it's futile. As far as animal tests, the antics surrounding their validity have been going on since the late 1960s. Environmental groups would point to tests which indicated a certain chemical caused cancer in rats, and companies like Dow would respons by saying animals react differently than humans, so it's risky to extrapolate from those results. But, when convenient, they would point to animal tests which did NOT result in illness, and say those WERE valid results. Then, there's the issue of children's exposure. You know why that's a whole different thing, right? For one example is the fire protectants that all childrens pajamas and bedding are required to use. Blood analysis of children show up frightening amounts of these chemicals, but no rotenone. Silly. Were the pajamas being tested for rotenone? You are an idiot. Rant about poisoning one lake with a killer of gilled animals, and not worry about all the chemicals your children are exposed to daily. Sad. Read the message again, billy bob. You read the reply again, dip****. Let's see....it's late Friday. Time for you to try and find your wife again. I know where mine is. Do you? |
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