"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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When monitoring Channel 16, its normal to hear the Coast Guard "ask"
whether there are vessels in the vicinity of a situation that might be
willing to help...."any vessels in the vicinity willing to render
assistance or provide additional information......". If there were
some law requiring compliance, I think we would hear "all vessels in
the vicinity are directed to proceed to the scene....."



I've never heard such a thing.

I *have* heard, "boaters are requested to keep a sharp lookout and to
provide assistance ...".

Must be a different Coast Guard out on the west coast.

Eisboch

On Sep 4, 10:50?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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When monitoring Channel 16, its normal to hear the Coast Guard "ask"
whether there are vessels in the vicinity of a situation that might be
willing to help...."any vessels in the vicinity willing to render
assistance or provide additional information......". If there were
some law requiring compliance, I think we would hear "all vessels in
the vicinity are directed to proceed to the scene....."

I've never heard such a thing.

I *have* heard, "boaters are requested to keep a sharp lookout and to
provide assistance ...".

Must be a different Coast Guard out on the west coast.

Eisboch

Over the years in this group we have observed that radio and
communications practices do vary tremendously from one USCG district
to another. Heck, the districts don't even all use the same frequency-
some are on 16 and others are on 9.

Our district's "script" for "marine assistance broadcasts" neither
states nor implies that boaters are obligated to assist. In fact,
there seems to be a great emphasis placed on getting stranded boats
hooked up with Sea Tow, etc. I suspect that's one reason that the USCG
tries to get stranded boaters (not those in a life threatening
situation) off the radio and onto a cell phone when possible- too many
cases of "good sams" showing up to provide a free tow 5 minutes before
Sea Tow finishes burning $40 in fuel to arrive at the scene.

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On Sep 4, 10:50?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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When monitoring Channel 16, its normal to hear the Coast Guard "ask"
whether there are vessels in the vicinity of a situation that might be
willing to help...."any vessels in the vicinity willing to render
assistance or provide additional information......". If there were
some law requiring compliance, I think we would hear "all vessels in
the vicinity are directed to proceed to the scene....."

I've never heard such a thing.

I *have* heard, "boaters are requested to keep a sharp lookout and to
provide assistance ...".

Must be a different Coast Guard out on the west coast.

Eisboch

Over the years in this group we have observed that radio and
communications practices do vary tremendously from one USCG district
to another. Heck, the districts don't even all use the same frequency-
some are on 16 and others are on 9.

Our district's "script" for "marine assistance broadcasts" neither
states nor implies that boaters are obligated to assist. In fact,
there seems to be a great emphasis placed on getting stranded boats
hooked up with Sea Tow, etc. I suspect that's one reason that the USCG
tries to get stranded boaters (not those in a life threatening
situation) off the radio and onto a cell phone when possible- too many
cases of "good sams" showing up to provide a free tow 5 minutes before
Sea Tow finishes burning $40 in fuel to arrive at the scene.


I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise me if, as
a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different scripts in
the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't judge.

However, in some distress call circumstances, I believe you have a legal
obligation to assist if you can without endangering you or your passengers.
I will provide a cite when I get a chance to look it up.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise me if,
as a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different scripts
in the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't
judge.


BTW ... the "script" around here is close to .... "vessels in the area are
instructed to keep a sharp lookout and to provide assistance, if possible"

The wording may not be exact ... I'll check it when I get back to the boat
and look it up along with the "legal obligation" to assist reference I
alluded to. My "stuff" is on the boat.

Eisboch

On Sep 4, 11:48?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise me if,
as a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different scripts
in the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't
judge.

BTW ... the "script" around here is close to .... "vessels in the area are
instructed to keep a sharp lookout and to provide assistance, if possible"

The wording may not be exact ... I'll check it when I get back to the boat
and look it up along with the "legal obligation" to assist reference I
alluded to. My "stuff" is on the boat.

Eisboch

I don't recall hearing the term "sharp lookout" used in the standard
marine assistance broadcast in the NW.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Sep 4, 11:48?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise me
if,
as a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different
scripts
in the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't
judge.

BTW ... the "script" around here is close to .... "vessels in the area
are
instructed to keep a sharp lookout and to provide assistance, if
possible"

The wording may not be exact ... I'll check it when I get back to the
boat
and look it up along with the "legal obligation" to assist reference I
alluded to. My "stuff" is on the boat.

Eisboch

I don't recall hearing the term "sharp lookout" used in the standard
marine assistance broadcast in the NW.

Could you get the script and post it here? We must have accurate
information.


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Jim wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Sep 4, 11:48?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise
me if,
as a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different
scripts
in the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't
judge.

BTW ... the "script" around here is close to .... "vessels in the
area are
instructed to keep a sharp lookout and to provide assistance, if
possible"

The wording may not be exact ... I'll check it when I get back to
the boat
and look it up along with the "legal obligation" to assist reference I
alluded to. My "stuff" is on the boat.

Eisboch

I don't recall hearing the term "sharp lookout" used in the standard
marine assistance broadcast in the NW.

Could you get the script and post it here? We must have accurate
information.



Ol' Chuck has his dukes up and is ready, willing and able to fight
everyone over everything.

I think we need our own Homeland Security warning system to accommodate
Chuck's dark-sided moods:


http://tinyurl.com/38zfcm

On Sep 4, 2:13?pm, "Jim" wrote:
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On Sep 4, 11:48?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

om...

I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise me
if,
as a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different
scripts
in the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't
judge.

BTW ... the "script" around here is close to .... "vessels in the area
are
instructed to keep a sharp lookout and to provide assistance, if
possible"

The wording may not be exact ... I'll check it when I get back to the
boat
and look it up along with the "legal obligation" to assist reference I
alluded to. My "stuff" is on the boat.

Eisboch

I don't recall hearing the term "sharp lookout" used in the standard
marine assistance broadcast in the NW.

Could you get the script and post it here? We must have accurate
information.

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Why?

Whatever verbiage your particular USCG district chooses to use is
perdectly fine. I wasn't aware that there were differences, but as
Eisboch is remarking that he has never heard some of the terms I am
quoting and I have never heard some of the terms he is quoting
apparently there are different procedures.

A script is used because each time a broadcast goes out the wording is
exactly the same, regardless of the radio operator on duty.

On Sep 4, 11:48?am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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I don't disagree with most of the above, except it would surprise me if,
as a Federal Government Agency, that the Coast Guard had different scripts
in the training programs.
I've never heard a Coast Guard Pan Pan call in your area, so I can't
judge.

BTW ... the "script" around here is close to .... "vessels in the area are
instructed to keep a sharp lookout and to provide assistance, if possible"

The wording may not be exact ... I'll check it when I get back to the boat
and look it up along with the "legal obligation" to assist reference I
alluded to. My "stuff" is on the boat.

Eisboch

Checking with the USCG Radio Watchstander's guide confirms that
a MARB (Marine Assistance Request Broadcast) shall be worded in a
manner that "invites" fellow mariners to respond with aid.

http://www.uscg.mil/d1/units/gruport...M_16120_7A.pdf


And of course you are right that there is a difference between a
MAYDAY and a MARB. No question whatsoever there.