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On Sep 3, 12:31?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 10:30?am, HK wrote:

Got a list of products you'll be accepted ads for in upcoming issues?
Got the ad-vertorials written already from the company PR releases?-

Yes, and no.

We actually have a staff of writers that produce about 80 pages of
editorial in a typical 160-page issue. Our table of contents always
includes about 20 original editorial items. Perhaps you have the
pubication confused with typical regionals that are almost entirely
advertising and normally offer only 6-10 editorial pieces. While it is
standard practice in the industry to dress up press releases as
content, we have no need to do so. Every one of our boat articles, for
example, is the result of either an actual demonstration ride aboard
the boat or at least a dockside walkthrough. We never represent that
we have been underway in a boat if we have not been. (Sadly, that is
not always the case in the boating magazine business). Running a press
release simply assures that your content will be exactly the same as
your closest lazy competitor's in any given month- not a sterling
formula for success.

We do runpress releases in the "news" section, sometimes. There's no
point reconfiguring a concise list of USCG Aux or Power Squadron
classes, for example.

I'm off to the boat. If you're going out today, better hop to it. Must
be almost 2PM back there....day's a wastin.

I'll have to look for the mag on my next visit to the northwest. I tried
finding it on the web, but was not too successful.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd be happy to send you a sample copy. If you at least had some first
hand exposure to the publication, your scathingly unkind remarks would
be factually based. :-).

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On Sep 3, 9:10 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:31?pm, HK wrote:





Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 10:30?am, HK wrote:

Got a list of products you'll be accepted ads for in upcoming issues?
Got the ad-vertorials written already from the company PR releases?-

Yes, and no.

We actually have a staff of writers that produce about 80 pages of
editorial in a typical 160-page issue. Our table of contents always
includes about 20 original editorial items. Perhaps you have the
pubication confused with typical regionals that are almost entirely
advertising and normally offer only 6-10 editorial pieces. While it is
standard practice in the industry to dress up press releases as
content, we have no need to do so. Every one of our boat articles, for
example, is the result of either an actual demonstration ride aboard
the boat or at least a dockside walkthrough. We never represent that
we have been underway in a boat if we have not been. (Sadly, that is
not always the case in the boating magazine business). Running a press
release simply assures that your content will be exactly the same as
your closest lazy competitor's in any given month- not a sterling
formula for success.

We do runpress releases in the "news" section, sometimes. There's no
point reconfiguring a concise list of USCG Aux or Power Squadron
classes, for example.

I'm off to the boat. If you're going out today, better hop to it. Must
be almost 2PM back there....day's a wastin.

I'll have to look for the mag on my next visit to the northwest. I tried
finding it on the web, but was not too successful.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd be happy to send you a sample copy. If you at least had some first
hand exposure to the publication, your scathingly unkind remarks would
be factually based. :-).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I just dont' get it Chuck. When did you start letting Harry get to
you? You never seemed to take him so seriously in the past. Besides,
there are plenty of others here to give you a hard time, and most of
us/them actually like reading your posts! Well, at least the first few
paragraphs.;)

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:31?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 10:30?am, HK wrote:
Got a list of products you'll be accepted ads for in upcoming issues?
Got the ad-vertorials written already from the company PR releases?-
Yes, and no.
We actually have a staff of writers that produce about 80 pages of
editorial in a typical 160-page issue. Our table of contents always
includes about 20 original editorial items. Perhaps you have the
pubication confused with typical regionals that are almost entirely
advertising and normally offer only 6-10 editorial pieces. While it is
standard practice in the industry to dress up press releases as
content, we have no need to do so. Every one of our boat articles, for
example, is the result of either an actual demonstration ride aboard
the boat or at least a dockside walkthrough. We never represent that
we have been underway in a boat if we have not been. (Sadly, that is
not always the case in the boating magazine business). Running a press
release simply assures that your content will be exactly the same as
your closest lazy competitor's in any given month- not a sterling
formula for success.
We do runpress releases in the "news" section, sometimes. There's no
point reconfiguring a concise list of USCG Aux or Power Squadron
classes, for example.
I'm off to the boat. If you're going out today, better hop to it. Must
be almost 2PM back there....day's a wastin.
I'll have to look for the mag on my next visit to the northwest. I tried
finding it on the web, but was not too successful.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd be happy to send you a sample copy. If you at least had some first
hand exposure to the publication, your scathingly unkind remarks would
be factually based. :-).



Didn't your pub have some web presence at one time, or am I confusing
your publisher with another shopper/trader organization?

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On Sep 3, 7:16?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:31?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 10:30?am, HK wrote:
Got a list of products you'll be accepted ads for in upcoming issues?
Got the ad-vertorials written already from the company PR releases?-
Yes, and no.
We actually have a staff of writers that produce about 80 pages of
editorial in a typical 160-page issue. Our table of contents always
includes about 20 original editorial items. Perhaps you have the
pubication confused with typical regionals that are almost entirely
advertising and normally offer only 6-10 editorial pieces. While it is
standard practice in the industry to dress up press releases as
content, we have no need to do so. Every one of our boat articles, for
example, is the result of either an actual demonstration ride aboard
the boat or at least a dockside walkthrough. We never represent that
we have been underway in a boat if we have not been. (Sadly, that is
not always the case in the boating magazine business). Running a press
release simply assures that your content will be exactly the same as
your closest lazy competitor's in any given month- not a sterling
formula for success.
We do runpress releases in the "news" section, sometimes. There's no
point reconfiguring a concise list of USCG Aux or Power Squadron
classes, for example.
I'm off to the boat. If you're going out today, better hop to it. Must
be almost 2PM back there....day's a wastin.
I'll have to look for the mag on my next visit to the northwest. I tried
finding it on the web, but was not too successful.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'd be happy to send you a sample copy. If you at least had some first
hand exposure to the publication, your scathingly unkind remarks would
be factually based. :-).

Didn't your pub have some web presence at one time, or am I confusing
your publisher with another shopper/trader organization?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We take special pride in our print publication. While there is a
website built on the same architecture that supports some of the
publisher's other ventures, there is no attempt made to keep it up to
date editorially and anything there is "left over" from a few years
ago. The architecture that supports some of the other ventures does
not lend itself well to a publication based primarily on editorial.

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Uhhh... I was to embarrased to admit it, but since you did... I never heard
of it either. I'm not a big water boater, so I guess I don't matter...

--Mike

wrote in message
ps.com...
On Sep 3, 12:57 pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Professional mariners sometimes refer to the Beaufort Scale when
describing sea state. "Force 4, 5, 6, etc"

Here's a link to a version of the scale with photos of a variety of
corresponding sea conditions. Note that the photos are of ocean swell
conditions, not specifically windwaves or chop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale

Wow! Is that new, Chuck? I mean, it's possible that no one here has ever
seen or heard of the Beaufort Scale.

I have never heard of it, but that's what I get for coming here
without 40 previouis years of boating experience. Sorry, guess I broke
the rules;)

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"Mike" wrote
I'm not a big water boater, so I guess I don't matter...

I'd read about Beaufort before, but around here, we use the Willow scale. I
look out the window at that big willow tree next door
(http://blizzard.zmm.com/images/090307.jpg) and if the fronds are swaying a
bit, conditions are pretty good for sailing. If they're hanging straight
down and motionless, I can plan on unfurling the iron spinnaker. If the
fronds are coming off and blowing across my yard, it's a bit too rough to go
out.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 9:57?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Professional mariners sometimes refer to the Beaufort Scale when
describing sea state. "Force 4, 5, 6, etc"
Here's a link to a version of the scale with photos of a variety of
corresponding sea conditions. Note that the photos are of ocean swell
conditions, not specifically windwaves or chop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale
Wow! Is that new, Chuck? I mean, it's possible that no one here has ever
seen or heard of the Beaufort Scale.

I have to admit, it's not as compelling a post as the one you offered
featuring all the details associated with pumping your septic tank.

There seems to be a prevailing condition in the group where people are
using a variety of terms to describe sea state. In fact, it's to the
point
where certain individuals are making snide personal remarks about
difference of opinion regarding wave height, the propensity of people
to overestimate it, and the liklihood of 7-foot chop erupting on an
otherwise fairly calm day. (Specific waves and chop never seen first
hand by anybody involved in the discussion).

Enjoy your new boat. I'm sure we'll hear about every time you turn the
key. My forecast: 10 times in September, 5 times in October, on the
hard until May, and then another 40 engine hours in the following 3
years. At least that would be consistent with the last none.

Do keep the septic tank posts, the driveway posts, the handgun posts,
and the lies about your imaginary lobsta boat and the rest of your
fantasy flotilla, coming, won't you? (yes, I'm *sure* you will)



Ten times in september sounds about right, and maybe eight times in
october would be nice. Boating weather around here becomes "iffy" in
october. I usually have boats shrinkwrapped between the second and third
week of november, and "unwrap" in April. March, typically, is still snowy
around here. I know you like to boat in crappy weather (because that is
all you have), but I don't.


I'm glad you enjoy my posts so much. They certainly contrast nicely with
so many of your spam-filled, overblown, purple-prosed know-it-all wordy
masterpieces.

Got a list of products you'll be accepted ads for in upcoming issues? Got
the ad-vertorials written already from the company PR releases?

Orville Redenbacher's products are flying off the shelves for this thread.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 7:16?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:31?pm, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Sep 3, 10:30?am, HK wrote:
Got a list of products you'll be accepted ads for in upcoming issues?
Got the ad-vertorials written already from the company PR releases?-
Yes, and no.
We actually have a staff of writers that produce about 80 pages of
editorial in a typical 160-page issue. Our table of contents always
includes about 20 original editorial items. Perhaps you have the
pubication confused with typical regionals that are almost entirely
advertising and normally offer only 6-10 editorial pieces. While it is
standard practice in the industry to dress up press releases as
content, we have no need to do so. Every one of our boat articles, for
example, is the result of either an actual demonstration ride aboard
the boat or at least a dockside walkthrough. We never represent that
we have been underway in a boat if we have not been. (Sadly, that is
not always the case in the boating magazine business). Running a press
release simply assures that your content will be exactly the same as
your closest lazy competitor's in any given month- not a sterling
formula for success.
We do runpress releases in the "news" section, sometimes. There's no
point reconfiguring a concise list of USCG Aux or Power Squadron
classes, for example.
I'm off to the boat. If you're going out today, better hop to it. Must
be almost 2PM back there....day's a wastin.
I'll have to look for the mag on my next visit to the northwest. I tried
finding it on the web, but was not too successful.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I'd be happy to send you a sample copy. If you at least had some first
hand exposure to the publication, your scathingly unkind remarks would
be factually based. :-).
Didn't your pub have some web presence at one time, or am I confusing
your publisher with another shopper/trader organization?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We take special pride in our print publication. While there is a
website built on the same architecture that supports some of the
publisher's other ventures, there is no attempt made to keep it up to
date editorially and anything there is "left over" from a few years
ago. The architecture that supports some of the other ventures does
not lend itself well to a publication based primarily on editorial.




Translation: "We don't have a website."

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HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Professional mariners sometimes refer to the Beaufort Scale when
describing sea state. "Force 4, 5, 6, etc"

Here's a link to a version of the scale with photos of a variety of
corresponding sea conditions. Note that the photos are of ocean swell
conditions, not specifically windwaves or chop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale



Wow! Is that new, Chuck? I mean, it's possible that no one here has ever
seen or heard of the Beaufort Scale.

Harry,
Are we now limited to make posts on topics that we are sure no one in
the NG has every heard about?

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On Sep 9, 6:57 pm, Fredo wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Professional mariners sometimes refer to the Beaufort Scale when
describing sea state. "Force 4, 5, 6, etc"

Here's a link to a version of the scale with photos of a variety of
corresponding sea conditions. Note that the photos are of ocean swell
conditions, not specifically windwaves or chop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale

Wow! Is that new, Chuck? I mean, it's possible that no one here has ever
seen or heard of the Beaufort Scale.

Harry,

I had heard of it but seeing as I am a flatland boater I had forgotten
about it!

Thanks for the refresher Chuck!

Fredo

I never knew about it. Of course my boating is limited to S. IL.
lakes.

it's interesting.

Thanks for the refresher Chuck!
+1!