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On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). |
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oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). :-) |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? "Do the sixties" -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? What exactly is doing the sixties? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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.. . "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? No. |
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.. . "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? Still, no. :-) |
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On Aug 31, 7:57?am, "Jim" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? "Do the sixties" -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Hey, in addition to making fun of Harry's preferred "system", my comment was almost on topic. The geniuses behind "Not so Sweet, Martha Lorraine" were Country Joe and the FISH. "Fish" is absolutely on topic here. :-) Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. For that crowd I'll post the following stroll down flashback lane: Not So Sweet, Martha Lorraine as recorded by Country Joe and the Fish She hides in an attic concealed on a shelf Behind volumes of literature based on herself And runs across the pages like some tiny elf Knowing that it's hard to find Stuff way back in her mind, Winds up spending all of her time Trying to memorize every line, Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Sweet lady of death wants me to die So she can come sit by my bedside and sigh And wipe away the tears from all my friends eyes Then softly she will explain Just exactly who was to blame For causing me to go insane And finally blow out my brain, Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Well you know that it's a shame and a pity You were raised up in the city And you never learned nothing 'bout country ways, Ah, 'bout country ways. The joy of life she dresses in black With celestial secrets engraved in her back And her face keeps flashing that she's got the knack, But you know when you look into her eyes All she's learned she's had to memorize And the only way you'll ever get her high Is to let her do her thing and then watch you die, Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Now she's the one who gives us all those magical things And reads us stories out of the I Ching, Then she passes out a whole new basket of rings That when you put on your hand Makes you one of the Angel Band And gives you the power to be a man, But what it does for her you never quite understand Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Well you know that it's a shame and a pity You were raised up in the city And you never learned nothing 'bout country ways, Oh 'bout country ways, oh 'bout country ways, Yeah, about country ways, oh, country ways ... |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 31, 7:57?am, "Jim" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? "Do the sixties" -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Hey, in addition to making fun of Harry's preferred "system", my comment was almost on topic. The geniuses behind "Not so Sweet, Martha Lorraine" were Country Joe and the FISH. "Fish" is absolutely on topic here. :-) Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. For that crowd I'll post the following stroll down flashback lane: Not So Sweet, Martha Lorraine as recorded by Country Joe and the Fish She hides in an attic concealed on a shelf Behind volumes of literature based on herself And runs across the pages like some tiny elf Knowing that it's hard to find Stuff way back in her mind, Winds up spending all of her time Trying to memorize every line, Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Sweet lady of death wants me to die So she can come sit by my bedside and sigh And wipe away the tears from all my friends eyes Then softly she will explain Just exactly who was to blame For causing me to go insane And finally blow out my brain, Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Well you know that it's a shame and a pity You were raised up in the city And you never learned nothing 'bout country ways, Ah, 'bout country ways. The joy of life she dresses in black With celestial secrets engraved in her back And her face keeps flashing that she's got the knack, But you know when you look into her eyes All she's learned she's had to memorize And the only way you'll ever get her high Is to let her do her thing and then watch you die, Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Now she's the one who gives us all those magical things And reads us stories out of the I Ching, Then she passes out a whole new basket of rings That when you put on your hand Makes you one of the Angel Band And gives you the power to be a man, But what it does for her you never quite understand Sweet Lorraine, ah, sweet Lorraine. Well you know that it's a shame and a pity You were raised up in the city And you never learned nothing 'bout country ways, Oh 'bout country ways, oh 'bout country ways, Yeah, about country ways, oh, country ways ... You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:05:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Jim" wrote in message . .. "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? No. What ever happened to good old Country Joe anyway? As I was...um...sort of indisposed during that period - say from '66 to late '69 - I sort of missed most of the more interesting aspects of the mid-60's. I could tell a very funny story about my completely innocent introduction to smoking the most ubiquitous herbal substance of the times, but I don't want to ruin my hard earned law and order reputation. :) Oddly, "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag" is about the only thing I know about Country Joe McDonald - never really heard any other of his music. When I first heard it, it was towards the end of my second tour. By the time I returned stateside, it became a sort-of anthem for those who were trying very hard not to do as the title suggested. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:29:36 -0400, "Jim"
wrote: You call that genius? Genius of the time was Frank Zappa. "Suzie Creamcheese" comes to mind. :) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:05:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? No. What ever happened to good old Country Joe anyway? As I was...um...sort of indisposed during that period - say from '66 to late '69 - I sort of missed most of the more interesting aspects of the mid-60's. I could tell a very funny story about my completely innocent introduction to smoking the most ubiquitous herbal substance of the times, but I don't want to ruin my hard earned law and order reputation. :) Oddly, "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag" is about the only thing I know about Country Joe McDonald - never really heard any other of his music. When I first heard it, it was towards the end of my second tour. By the time I returned stateside, it became a sort-of anthem for those who were trying very hard not to do as the title suggested. I haven't heard much except his first couple of albums, which were interesting. From Wiki: Joe went on to have a long solo career with key albums including: a.. Thinking of Woody Guthrie (1969) - recorded in Nashville, which at the time was a very odd choice of location for a hippie songster to make an album of leftist anthems. b.. War War War (1971) - another tribute to a landmark American radical, the World War I anti-war poems of Robert W. Service set to music. c.. Hold On It's Coming - songs about the West Coast hippie movement. d.. Superstitious Blues - with Jerry Garcia playing guitar on some tracks. e.. Paradise With an Ocean View (1977) - included the landmark environmental protest song "Save the Whales". f.. Paris Sessions - landmark feminism, with a female band, singing songs, written by Joe, including "Sexist Pig". In 2003 McDonald was sued for copyright infringement over his signature song, specifically the "One, two, three, what are we fighting for?" chorus part, as derived from the 1926 early jazz classic "Muskrat Ramble", co-written by Kid Ory. The suit was brought by Ory's daughter Babette, who holds the copyright today. Since decades had already passed from the time McDonald composed his song in 1965, Ory based her suit against a new version of it recorded by McDonald in 1999. The court however upheld McDonald's laches defence, noting that Ory and her father were aware of the original version of "Fixin'", with the same section in question, for some three decades without bringing a suit until 2003, and dismissed the suit. In 2004, Country Joe re-formed some original members of Country Joe and The Fish as the Country Joe Band - Bruce Barthol, David Bennett Cohen, and Gary "Chicken" Hirsh. The band toured Los Angeles, Berkeley, Bolinas, Sebastopol, Grants Pass, Eugene, Portland and Seattle. They then made a 10-stop tour of the United Kingdom and played at the Isle of Wight and London. Following that came the New York tour which included a Woodstock reunion performance followed by an appearance at the New York State Museum in Albany. Returning to the West Coast the band played in Marin and Mendocino Counties, the World Peace Music Awards in San Francisco and at the Oakland Museum as part of an exhibit on the Vietnam War. In the spring of 2005, McDonald joined a larger protest against California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's proposed budget cuts at the California state capital. In the fall of 2005, political commentator Bill O'Reilly compared McDonald, a Navy veteran,[2] to Cuban president Fidel Castro, remarking on McDonald's involvement in Cindy Sheehan's protests against the Iraq War.[3] McDonald's daughter Seven is a columnist for the LA Weekly. He performed at the Isle of Wight Festival in the summer of 2007 |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) poke poke poke... When does freshwater bass season end up your way? And, is fresh water more convenient for you than sal****er, in terms of distance? I'm pondering schedules. |
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On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote:
You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers. |
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On Aug 31, 9:01?am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So, are you disputing the double entendre of "Not so Sweet", or "Mr. Tambourine Man"? I once met somebody who still insists that Peter Paul and Mary were singing about a wind up flying reptile......... We all lived in a yellow submarine. refresher: (and for the very few who have only heard the 2-verse pop-40 version) Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Though I know that evenin's empire has returned into sand, Vanished from my hand, Left me blindly here to stand but still not sleeping. My weariness amazes me, I'm branded on my feet, I have no one to meet And the ancient empty street's too dead for dreaming. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship, My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip, My toes too numb to step, wait only for my boot heels To be wanderin'. I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Though you might hear laughin', spinnin', swingin' madly across the sun, It's not aimed at anyone, it's just escapin' on the run And but for the sky there are no fences facin'. And if you hear vague traces of skippin' reels of rhyme To your tambourine in time, it's just a ragged clown behind, I wouldn't pay it any mind, it's just a shadow you're Seein' that he's chasing. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mind, Down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves, The haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beach, Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow. Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free, Silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands, With all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves, Let me forget about today until tomorrow. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:01:26 -0400, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote: On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers. True. And the old hag at the end of the bar making eyes at you looks better and better as the beer flows. --Vic |
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:01?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So, are you disputing the double entendre of "Not so Sweet", or "Mr. Tambourine Man"? I once met somebody who still insists that Peter Paul and Mary were singing about a wind up flying reptile......... We all lived in a yellow submarine. refresher: (and for the very few who have only heard the 2-verse pop-40 version) Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Several theories abound for the hidden meaning of "Mr. Tambourine Man." Not all those theories are based upon the smokey fantasties of druggies, former or current. I saw Dylan perform that song in the 1960s during one of his several appearances at Gerde's Folk City and at the 1964 Newport Folk Festival. That was, I believe, before it was released on an album. No one mentioned the song as an allegory for drug use. |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:29:36 -0400, "Jim"
wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message Not So Sweet, Martha Lorraine as recorded by Country Joe and the Fish lyrics snipped. You call that genius? I won't diss anybody's music, or make any judgements, since I'm not "musical" at all. But I will mention the only song lyrics I encountered while studying poetry in school was "Eleanor Rigby." It read well, but I already had the melody in my head, so no fair. --Vic |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:33:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) Some of us went touring and missed all the great parades and stuff. -- John H |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:52:34 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote: At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this HAH!!! I KNEW IT!!! :) |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:01:26 -0400, HK wrote:
I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers. Not all of us have holes in our transoms either. ~~ snerk ~~ That is never going to get old. :) |
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:40:28 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) poke poke poke... When does freshwater bass season end up your way? And, is fresh water more convenient for you than sal****er, in terms of distance? I'm pondering schedules. Well, come on down anytime there partner. We can sit around the hooka, discuss song lyrics and dream up largemouth bass anytime. Either one - salt water might be more fun - assuming that the bluefish finally show up. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:40:28 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) poke poke poke... When does freshwater bass season end up your way? And, is fresh water more convenient for you than sal****er, in terms of distance? I'm pondering schedules. Well, come on down anytime there partner. We can sit around the hooka, discuss song lyrics and dream up largemouth bass anytime. Either one - salt water might be more fun - assuming that the bluefish finally show up. Sounds like October. Maybe? I notice Ryder now rents small refrigerated trucks. Perhaps I'll arrange for one. I'm an optimist. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:01:26 -0400, HK wrote: I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers. Not all of us have holes in our transoms either. ~~ snerk ~~ That is never going to get old. :) Not until we run out of inexperienced inland boaters. |
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Harry,
I saw the same performance at Newport Festival, Do you remember what song he opened his performance with? Here is a copy of his performance at Newport. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRbeUnn-AUA By any chance are you the same Harry Krause who went to Yale? "HK" wrote in message . .. Chuck Gould wrote: On Aug 31, 9:01?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So, are you disputing the double entendre of "Not so Sweet", or "Mr. Tambourine Man"? I once met somebody who still insists that Peter Paul and Mary were singing about a wind up flying reptile......... We all lived in a yellow submarine. refresher: (and for the very few who have only heard the 2-verse pop-40 version) Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Several theories abound for the hidden meaning of "Mr. Tambourine Man." Not all those theories are based upon the smokey fantasties of druggies, former or current. I saw Dylan perform that song in the 1960s during one of his several appearances at Gerde's Folk City and at the 1964 Newport Folk Festival. That was, I believe, before it was released on an album. No one mentioned the song as an allegory for drug use. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:05:25 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message m... "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? No. What ever happened to good old Country Joe anyway? As I was...um...sort of indisposed during that period - say from '66 to late '69 - I sort of missed most of the more interesting aspects of the mid-60's. I could tell a very funny story about my completely innocent introduction to smoking the most ubiquitous herbal substance of the times, but I don't want to ruin my hard earned law and order reputation. :) Oddly, "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag" is about the only thing I know about Country Joe McDonald - never really heard any other of his music. When I first heard it, it was towards the end of my second tour. By the time I returned stateside, it became a sort-of anthem for those who were trying very hard not to do as the title suggested. I haven't heard much except his first couple of albums, which were interesting. From Wiki: Joe went on to have a long solo career with key albums including: a.. Thinking of Woody Guthrie (1969) - recorded in Nashville, which at the time was a very odd choice of location for a hippie songster to make an album of leftist anthems. b.. War War War (1971) - another tribute to a landmark American radical, the World War I anti-war poems of Robert W. Service set to music. c.. Hold On It's Coming - songs about the West Coast hippie movement. d.. Superstitious Blues - with Jerry Garcia playing guitar on some tracks. e.. Paradise With an Ocean View (1977) - included the landmark environmental protest song "Save the Whales". f.. Paris Sessions - landmark feminism, with a female band, singing songs, written by Joe, including "Sexist Pig". In 2003 McDonald was sued for copyright infringement over his signature song, specifically the "One, two, three, what are we fighting for?" chorus part, as derived from the 1926 early jazz classic "Muskrat Ramble", co-written by Kid Ory. The suit was brought by Ory's daughter Babette, who holds the copyright today. Since decades had already passed from the time McDonald composed his song in 1965, Ory based her suit against a new version of it recorded by McDonald in 1999. The court however upheld McDonald's laches defence, noting that Ory and her father were aware of the original version of "Fixin'", with the same section in question, for some three decades without bringing a suit until 2003, and dismissed the suit. In 2004, Country Joe re-formed some original members of Country Joe and The Fish as the Country Joe Band - Bruce Barthol, David Bennett Cohen, and Gary "Chicken" Hirsh. The band toured Los Angeles, Berkeley, Bolinas, Sebastopol, Grants Pass, Eugene, Portland and Seattle. They then made a 10-stop tour of the United Kingdom and played at the Isle of Wight and London. Following that came the New York tour which included a Woodstock reunion performance followed by an appearance at the New York State Museum in Albany. Returning to the West Coast the band played in Marin and Mendocino Counties, the World Peace Music Awards in San Francisco and at the Oakland Museum as part of an exhibit on the Vietnam War. In the spring of 2005, McDonald joined a larger protest against California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's proposed budget cuts at the California state capital. In the fall of 2005, political commentator Bill O'Reilly compared McDonald, a Navy veteran,[2] to Cuban president Fidel Castro, remarking on McDonald's involvement in Cindy Sheehan's protests against the Iraq War.[3] McDonald's daughter Seven is a columnist for the LA Weekly. He performed at the Isle of Wight Festival in the summer of 2007 He lives not far from me in Berkeley. We hear of him at times. Have not seen him perform for may years. Last big stint was the protest of cutting down some oak trees on the UC Berkeley campus to build a new football stadium. Worse part, would block the view from Cheapskate Hill. |
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On Aug 31, 10:57?am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:33:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) Some of us went touring and missed all the great parades and stuff. -- John H So true. I'd have to say that for most folks between say, 55-65 the 60's were an extremely formative decade. For better or for worse- or more likely just for different. |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:29:36 -0400, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? Genius of the time was Frank Zappa. "Suzie Creamcheese" comes to mind. :) Favorite was both Jefferson Airplane and Grateful Dead. I worked about 2 miles from the Haight-Ashbury in SF during the Summer of Love. Maintaining mainframe Computers while going to school at CCSF and SF State. Did not indulge in drugs as I get sick from most prescription painkillers. So body rejects them. Was very interesting. Not a real good life for some. We had to keep the drapes closed in the computer room (there were fishbowls in those day for advertizing) as the Speed Freaks would try to come in to watch the blinking lights. And Speed Freaks are scary people. But the Dead and the Airplane would have free concerts out in the panhandle area of Golden Gate Park. So got to see some good rock performances. As well as Winterland being about 4 blocks from the office. Being in the Reserves during part of that time, had to keep my hair somewhat short. |
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"Jim" wrote in message .. . "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? What exactly is doing the sixties? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com If you were not there, you will never understand. |
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... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:29:36 -0400, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? Genius of the time was Frank Zappa. "Suzie Creamcheese" comes to mind. :) Favorite was both Jefferson Airplane and Grateful Dead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urjmxO66mS8 |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message .. . "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? What exactly is doing the sixties? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com If you were not there, you will never understand. I was otherwise occupied till the mid to late sixties. The culture that was spawned in the sixties lives on and will ultimately be our destruction. That much I understand. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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.. . "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message .. . "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? What exactly is doing the sixties? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com If you were not there, you will never understand. I was otherwise occupied till the mid to late sixties. The culture that was spawned in the sixties lives on and will ultimately be our destruction. That much I understand. {smirk} I'll bet you like your meat & vegetables served on different plates. |
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On Aug 31, 11:40 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:m4dgd3t4cnkhcn4komibhn7mpfbasv9klf@4ax .com... On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) poke poke poke... When does freshwater bass season end up your way? And, is fresh water more convenient for you than sal****er, in terms of distance? I'm pondering schedules. That's funny, SW doesn't fish locally. |
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On Aug 31, 12:18 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:01?am, HK wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Aug 31, 8:29?am, "Jim" wrote: You call that genius? -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Musical genius. You need to hear the actual recording. The lyrics by themselves are interesting, but a little flat. Throw in the "psychedelic" guitar licks, etc, and it's one of the better- even if now mostly forgotten- gems from the era. At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this. I can't seem to remember whether Martha Lorraine was popularly assumed to be about peyote, hashish, LSD, or the Selective Service System/FEDGOV- (good arguments for all). I still remember how suprised a lot of folks were to realize that Mr Tambourine Man was about a dope dealer. Dylan was always easier to figure out than Joe McDonald :-) I suppose if you are sitting around doing drugs, a lot of songs sound like they are "dealing" drugs. Not all of us were Day Trippers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So, are you disputing the double entendre of "Not so Sweet", or "Mr. Tambourine Man"? I once met somebody who still insists that Peter Paul and Mary were singing about a wind up flying reptile......... We all lived in a yellow submarine. refresher: (and for the very few who have only heard the 2-verse pop-40 version) Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Though I know that evenin's empire has returned into sand, Vanished from my hand, Left me blindly here to stand but still not sleeping. My weariness amazes me, I'm branded on my feet, I have no one to meet And the ancient empty street's too dead for dreaming. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship, My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip, My toes too numb to step, wait only for my boot heels To be wanderin'. I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way, I promise to go under it. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Though you might hear laughin', spinnin', swingin' madly across the sun, It's not aimed at anyone, it's just escapin' on the run And but for the sky there are no fences facin'. And if you hear vague traces of skippin' reels of rhyme To your tambourine in time, it's just a ragged clown behind, I wouldn't pay it any mind, it's just a shadow you're Seein' that he's chasing. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you. Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mind, Down the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leaves, The haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beach, Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow. Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free, Silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands, With all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves, Let me forget about today until tomorrow. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to. Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me, In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's funny, I am sitting here playing that on the guitar as I read. One of my favorites to play, my favorite progression is Mr. Bojangles. I could just play the rythem over and over, and sometimes I do. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message .. . "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message .. . "Chuck Gould" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 30, 4:34?pm, HK wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2selhs Not So Sweet, Martha Loran (those who didn't do the 60's, don't even ask). Is this some kind of Druggie code? What exactly is doing the sixties? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com If you were not there, you will never understand. I was otherwise occupied till the mid to late sixties. The culture that was spawned in the sixties lives on and will ultimately be our destruction. That much I understand. {smirk} I'll bet you like your meat & vegetables served on different plates. What is that supposed to mean, o wasted one? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Aug 31, 2:02 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:52:34 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: At one time it was fun to sit around the hookah and debate the "inner meaning" of tunes like this HAH!!! I KNEW IT!!! :) Just figured that out? |
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On Aug 31, 2:07 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:40:28 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:14:58 -0700, Chuck Gould wrote: Then of course there are those who did the 60's, and as a result can't remember too very much between about 1966 and 1972. And then there were those of us who also "did" the '60s in an entirely different context and were a tad too busy to worry about song titles and lyrics. Just for the record you understand. :) poke poke poke... When does freshwater bass season end up your way? And, is fresh water more convenient for you than sal****er, in terms of distance? I'm pondering schedules. Well, come on down anytime there partner. We can sit around the hooka, discuss song lyrics and dream up largemouth bass anytime. Either one - salt water might be more fun - assuming that the bluefish finally show up.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you can avoid those sneaky black ops lobsters... |
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