*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

Senator arrested in airport

Associated Press - August 27, 2007 6:54 PM ET

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Court records show that Idaho Senator Larry Craig
pleaded guilty earlier this month to misdemeanor disorderly conduct
after being arrested in June at a Minneapolis airport.

A court docket from Hennepin County shows Craig pleading guilty to the
disorderly conduct charge on August 8. In return, the court dismissed a
charge of gross misdemeanor interference to privacy.

Records show the veteran Republican senator was fined $1,000, plus $575
in fees. He was placed on unsupervised probation for a year. A sentence
of 10 days in the county workhouse was stayed.

The story was first published today in Roll Call ... a Capitol Hill
newspaper. The newspaper's Web site says Craig was arrested by a
plainclothes officer investigating complaints of lewd conduct in the
men's room at the airport.

In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Craig says in hindsight he should have pled guilty ... but was - quote -
"trying to handle this matter myself quickly."



There must be something about being a Republican that drives men
to...other men.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

HK wrote:


There must be something about being a Republican that drives men
to...other men.


While this does sound very homophobic of you, I really am interested in
how your Lobster Boat is doing. Do you have a photo you can post?

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:

There must be something about being a Republican that drives men
to...other men.

Hmmmm....

A little - um - judgemental there wouldn't you think?

I mean, you make a good point - I can't think right off hand of any
gay male Democrats who, say, take a 17 year old Page to Europe then
procede to - um...rape...

Oh wait a minute...

Well, certainly there aren't any Democratic Representatives who, I
don't know, say...allow a gay prostutution riing to be run out of
their DC Apartment.

Oh - wait a minute...

Never mind. :)

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:

There must be something about being a Republican that drives men
to...other men.

Hmmmm....

A little - um - judgemental there wouldn't you think?

I mean, you make a good point - I can't think right off hand of any
gay male Democrats who, say, take a 17 year old Page to Europe then
procede to - um...rape...

Oh wait a minute...

Well, certainly there aren't any Democratic Representatives who, I
don't know, say...allow a gay prostutution riing to be run out of
their DC Apartment.

Oh - wait a minute...

Never mind. :)


Representative Frank has been out of the closet for a long, long time.
It is the conservatives who keep getting outed.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:00:12 -0400, HK wrote:

Representative Frank has been out of the closet for a long, long time.
It is the conservatives who keep getting outed.

It's not the point. One does not need to be Republican or Democrat to
be gay, bi, straight and/or any other thing.

Plus, that Republican will lose his seat over this.

Can you say the same for Studds and Frank?

No...

Public immorality is different for you folks on the left - Republicans
pay the price, Democrats don't.

Unfortunate, but true.

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:00:12 -0400, HK wrote:

Representative Frank has been out of the closet for a long, long time.
It is the conservatives who keep getting outed.

It's not the point. One does not need to be Republican or Democrat to
be gay, bi, straight and/or any other thing.

Plus, that Republican will lose his seat over this.

Can you say the same for Studds and Frank?

No...

Public immorality is different for you folks on the left - Republicans
pay the price, Democrats don't.

Unfortunate, but true.

Why should Barney Frank lose his seat for being gay?

It's interesting when a Republican is outed because Republicans make
such an issue of what they believe to be "morality."

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Aug 27, 7:57 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
There must be something about being a Republican that drives men
to...other men.

Hmmmm....

A little - um - judgemental there wouldn't you think?

I mean, you make a good point - I can't think right off hand of any
gay male Democrats who, say, take a 17 year old Page to Europe then
procede to - um...rape...

Oh wait a minute...

Well, certainly there aren't any Democratic Representatives who, I
don't know, say...allow a gay prostutution riing to be run out of
their DC Apartment.

Oh - wait a minute...

Never mind. :)

I guess they only like gays when it is convienient. Or criminals like
congressman Jefferson, and traitors like Sandy Berger.. I could go on,
but I don't really know if Hillary pulled the trigger herself or had
someone do it for her with Vince Foster. Remember, you are dealing
with the party of hate and intolerance, unless enough money is
involved for someones library...

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:21:03 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:00:12 -0400, HK wrote:

Representative Frank has been out of the closet for a long, long time.
It is the conservatives who keep getting outed.

It's not the point. One does not need to be Republican or Democrat to
be gay, bi, straight and/or any other thing.

Plus, that Republican will lose his seat over this.

Can you say the same for Studds and Frank?

No...

Public immorality is different for you folks on the left - Republicans
pay the price, Democrats don't.

Unfortunate, but true.

Why should Barney Frank lose his seat for being gay?

He should have lost his seat for allowing a gay prostitution ring to
operate out of his apartment. He says he didn't "know"? Ok.

Would it have been any different if he was straight and ran a
prostitution ring out of his apartment?

Has nothing to do with being gay.

It's interesting when a Republican is outed because Republicans make
such an issue of what they believe to be "morality."

True - and they are held accountable for their lapses.

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:

Senator arrested in airport

Associated Press - August 27, 2007 6:54 PM ET

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Court records show that Idaho Senator Larry Craig
pleaded guilty earlier this month to misdemeanor disorderly conduct
after being arrested in June at a Minneapolis airport.

A court docket from Hennepin County shows Craig pleading guilty to the
disorderly conduct charge on August 8. In return, the court dismissed a
charge of gross misdemeanor interference to privacy.

Records show the veteran Republican senator was fined $1,000, plus $575
in fees. He was placed on unsupervised probation for a year. A sentence
of 10 days in the county workhouse was stayed.

The story was first published today in Roll Call ... a Capitol Hill
newspaper. The newspaper's Web site says Craig was arrested by a
plainclothes officer investigating complaints of lewd conduct in the
men's room at the airport.

In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Craig says in hindsight he should have pled guilty ... but was - quote -
"trying to handle this matter myself quickly."



There must be something about being a Republican that drives men
to...other men.

Surely there are no liberal gays, huh? Good thing you're using the 'HK'
handle, Harry, or people would know who you are!
--
John H

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:

In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic


Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:21:03 -0400, HK wrote:


It's interesting when a Republican is outed because Republicans make
such an issue of what they believe to be "morality."

True - and they are held accountable for their lapses.


Nothing to do with gays or "morality", but my daughter-in-law emailed this
to me this morning. Makes you realize where we are headed as a society as
we allow more and more government regulation of our lives:

----------------------------------------------------------

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
were pregnant.



They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get
tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs
covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we
rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took
hitchhiking .

As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster
seats, seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE
actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with
sugar, but we weren't overweight because, WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!


We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back
when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down
the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the
bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no
150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's,
no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chat rooms.......
WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us
forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and
tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out
very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang
the bell, or just walked in and talked to the m!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't
had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.
They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem
solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas. We
had freedom, failure, success and responsibility , and we learned HOW TO
DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them...CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as
kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives
for our own good.
While you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave
(and lucky) their parents were.



------------------------------------------------------------



Eisboch

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On Aug 28, 6:27 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic

Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is just your lie. We talk no more of family values than Hillary
or Obama. Of course maybe you mean, we mean it, dems just use it as an
election tool depending on which special interest they are addressing.
I just don't see how anyone can watch Hillary with her adjusted
accents and views and not even question. That is what we call bought
and paid for. I for instance am probably much more accepting of
different lifestyles, "because" I am a christian and a libretarian,
mostly though of as being right of center, not in spite of my core.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:27:12 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic


Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."

Looks like I spoke too soon. Everybody else is saying the guy is
"gay."
Well, I tried to defend him. Even invoked Johnny Bench.
It's just not working.

--Vic

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Aug 28, 9:11 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:27 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.
Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."
Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)
So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.
--Vic
Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is just your lie. We talk no more of family values than Hillary
or Obama. Of course maybe you mean, we mean it, dems just use it as an
election tool depending on which special interest they are addressing.
I just don't see how anyone can watch Hillary with her adjusted
accents and views and not even question. That is what we call bought
and paid for. I for instance am probably much more accepting of
different lifestyles, "because" I am a christian and a libretarian,
mostly though of as being right of center, not in spite of my core.

Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."



Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives, (and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

The problem with the Dead Kennedys is there ain't enough of 'em.

Yeesh, you can't drive, ski or even fly with them without risking bodily
harm.

They can't cremate Teddy, his body would keep burning for too long from
being gin-soaked all these decades.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Aug 28, 9:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."

Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives, (and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.

Set up? Apparently Senator Craig entered a men's room known to be
frequented by those looking for gay encounters, and "signaled" a cop in
the next stall. He admitted this, and entered a plea. Are you saying
that everyone knew Craig was going to that men's room for a "date," and
they were waiting for him? :}

Man, you need to cut back on whatever psychotropics you are taking.

Oh, and once again, I don't care who Senator Craig diddles. It's only of
interest to me because he is yet another example of a
right-wing-extremist sexual hypocrite.

Apparently he plead to lewd conduct, not the events as you describe
them, in fact he has stated his side of the story and it's nothing
like you said. But you just keep making up facts as you go along, your
comrades don't mind a little dishonesty when it comes to politics.
Again, no moral core, just power. Like I said in another post. I have
heard two top dems (Schumer and Lannie Davis) both in the last 24
hours admit Gonzales was a good AG, they just did not like his
politics, period. That is not democracy, that is not American.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

Bill Kearney wrote:
The problem with the Dead Kennedys is there ain't enough of 'em.

Yeesh, you can't drive, ski or even fly with them without risking bodily
harm.

They can't cremate Teddy, his body would keep burning for too long from
being gin-soaked all these decades.



All of Ted Kennedy's sins do not add up to a pimple compared to the
horrors perpetrated on this country and the world by George W. Bush and
Dick Cheney.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Aug 28, 10:09 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 9:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives, (and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.
Set up? Apparently Senator Craig entered a men's room known to be
frequented by those looking for gay encounters, and "signaled" a cop in
the next stall. He admitted this, and entered a plea. Are you saying
that everyone knew Craig was going to that men's room for a "date," and
they were waiting for him? :}

Man, you need to cut back on whatever psychotropics you are taking.

Oh, and once again, I don't care who Senator Craig diddles. It's only of
interest to me because he is yet another example of a
right-wing-extremist sexual hypocrite.

Apparently he plead to lewd conduct, not the events as you describe
them, in fact he has stated his side of the story and it's nothing
like you said. But you just keep making up facts as you go along, your
comrades don't mind a little dishonesty when it comes to politics.
Again, no moral core, just power. Like I said in another post. I have
heard two top dems (Schumer and Lannie Davis) both in the last 24
hours admit Gonzales was a good AG, they just did not like his
politics, period. That is not democracy, that is not American.

So, tell us, and don't mince your words. What sort of "lewd conduct"
might a 62-old US Senator engage in in a men's room at an airport, a
men's room known to be a place gays use for assignations?

I'm not surprised that Craig's side of the story is different from what
actually happened. Are you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have to understand my point of view. Basically I think it is
another setup, so most of the rest is moot. The vast left wing
conspiracy always goes directly at whatever cause the righty has, the
numbers just don't add up. I'm not surprised the democratic activist
cops story is what it is either, hope he got paid well for his treason.

*Another* GOP Pol 'Outed'
 

On Aug 28, 10:25 am, wrote:
On Aug 28, 10:09 am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Aug 28, 9:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives, (and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.
Set up? Apparently Senator Craig entered a men's room known to be
frequented by those looking for gay encounters, and "signaled" a cop in
the next stall. He admitted this, and entered a plea. Are you saying
that everyone knew Craig was going to that men's room for a "date," and
they were waiting for him? :}

Man, you need to cut back on whatever psychotropics you are taking.

Oh, and once again, I don't care who Senator Craig diddles. It's only of
interest to me because he is yet another example of a
right-wing-extremist sexual hypocrite.

Apparently he plead to lewd conduct, not the events as you describe
them, in fact he has stated his side of the story and it's nothing
like you said. But you just keep making up facts as you go along, your
comrades don't mind a little dishonesty when it comes to politics.
Again, no moral core, just power. Like I said in another post. I have
heard two top dems (Schumer and Lannie Davis) both in the last 24
hours admit Gonzales was a good AG, they just did not like his
politics, period. That is not democracy, that is not American.

So, tell us, and don't mince your words. What sort of "lewd conduct"
might a 62-old US Senator engage in in a men's room at an airport, a
men's room known to be a place gays use for assignations?

I'm not surprised that Craig's side of the story is different from what
actually happened. Are you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have to understand my point of view. Basically I think it is
another setup, so most of the rest is moot. The vast left wing
conspiracy always goes directly at whatever cause the righty has, the
numbers just don't add up. I'm not surprised the democratic activist
cops story is what it is either, hope he got paid well for his treason.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Anyway, according to the report, Craig "tapped his foot in a manner
recognized by the officer as a signal for sex" !? He tapped his foot?
This was a setup, plain and simple. The guy walked in and took a crap
in the middle of a "show of force" sting on the part of the local PD.
As to the plea, it was probably a bad decision, but can you imagine if
he had gone to trial? The haters and bigots on the left would have had
a field day, probably made the right decision in that case. Just
happens one of Clintons investigators dug it up, nothing new, like I
said, if you can't win in the voting booth...

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:11:04 -0000,
wrote:



Anyway, according to the report, Craig "tapped his foot in a manner
recognized by the officer as a signal for sex" !? He tapped his foot?

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be going after hummers.
Maybe the cop thought he was tapping YMCA?

--Vic

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On Aug 28, 11:12 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 10:25 am, wrote:
On Aug 28, 10:09 am, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Aug 28, 9:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives, (and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.
Set up? Apparently Senator Craig entered a men's room known to be
frequented by those looking for gay encounters, and "signaled" a cop in
the next stall. He admitted this, and entered a plea. Are you saying
that everyone knew Craig was going to that men's room for a "date," and
they were waiting for him? :}
Man, you need to cut back on whatever psychotropics you are taking.
Oh, and once again, I don't care who Senator Craig diddles. It's only of
interest to me because he is yet another example of a
right-wing-extremist sexual hypocrite.
Apparently he plead to lewd conduct, not the events as you describe
them, in fact he has stated his side of the story and it's nothing
like you said. But you just keep making up facts as you go along, your
comrades don't mind a little dishonesty when it comes to politics.
Again, no moral core, just power. Like I said in another post. I have
heard two top dems (Schumer and Lannie Davis) both in the last 24
hours admit Gonzales was a good AG, they just did not like his
politics, period. That is not democracy, that is not American.
So, tell us, and don't mince your words. What sort of "lewd conduct"
might a 62-old US Senator engage in in a men's room at an airport, a
men's room known to be a place gays use for assignations?
I'm not surprised that Craig's side of the story is different from what
actually happened. Are you?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You have to understand my point of view. Basically I think it is
another setup, so most of the rest is moot. The vast left wing
conspiracy always goes directly at whatever cause the righty has, the
numbers just don't add up. I'm not surprised the democratic activist
cops story is what it is either, hope he got paid well for his treason.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Anyway, according to the report, Craig "tapped his foot in a manner
recognized by the officer as a signal for sex" !? He tapped his foot?
This was a setup, plain and simple. The guy walked in and took a crap
in the middle of a "show of force" sting on the part of the local PD.
As to the plea, it was probably a bad decision, but can you imagine if
he had gone to trial? The haters and bigots on the left would have had
a field day, probably made the right decision in that case. Just
happens one of Clintons investigators dug it up, nothing new, like I
said, if you can't win in the voting booth...

Craig did more than tap his foot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe according to the blogs, but not according to the police report.
It was a setup, period. Next topic Harry, when you gonna' wet that
hull?

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:10:26 -0400, HK wrote:

Bill Kearney wrote:
The problem with the Dead Kennedys is there ain't enough of 'em.

Yeesh, you can't drive, ski or even fly with them without risking bodily
harm.

They can't cremate Teddy, his body would keep burning for too long from
being gin-soaked all these decades.



All of Ted Kennedy's sins do not add up to a pimple compared to the
horrors perpetrated on this country and the world by George W. Bush and
Dick Cheney.

Harry, you should stick to posting other people's pictures of owls.
--
John H

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On Aug 28, 11:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:

Maybe according to the blogs, but not according to the police report.
It was a setup, period. Next topic Harry, when you gonna' wet that
hull?

I was going to go out today, but it looks like tomorrow.

I've already spliced up four new 30' docklines and an anchor line this
morning. Gave away the old docklines with the sale of Yo Ho I. Dealer
included a new anchor and line with the new boat, but I don't like the
"hand" of 3/8" line, so I fixed up some 1/2" stuff.

I can't beleive they would give anyone 3/8 on a boat that size. Seems
almost unsafe, sounds good changing it over.

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On Aug 28, 2:06 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 11:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:

Maybe according to the blogs, but not according to the police report.
It was a setup, period. Next topic Harry, when you gonna' wet that
hull?
I was going to go out today, but it looks like tomorrow.

I've already spliced up four new 30' docklines and an anchor line this
morning. Gave away the old docklines with the sale of Yo Ho I. Dealer
included a new anchor and line with the new boat, but I don't like the
"hand" of 3/8" line, so I fixed up some 1/2" stuff.

I can't beleive they would give anyone 3/8 on a boat that size. Seems
almost unsafe, sounds good changing it over.

Oh, I think 3/8" dockline is adequate for tying up a trailerboat like
mine around here. We have small tides and most of the marinas are in
sheltered areas of the Bay. If a serious storm comes, you either yank
the boat out of the water or double up the lines. But my boat won't be
tied up at a dock for any length of line.

3/8" line is adequate for a fishing anchor, too. I just don't like it
because line of that diameter tends to cut into my hands when I pull in
the anchor. The 1/2" line does not.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well that's kind of what I was thinking, an emergency situation where
you needed some good, strong, rope control. That's a big boat to pull
around or move in an emergency with small rope cutting your hands up.
I want something I can wrap around my hand quick, and lay into.

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HK wrote:
Bill Kearney wrote:
The problem with the Dead Kennedys is there ain't enough of 'em.

Yeesh, you can't drive, ski or even fly with them without risking
bodily harm.

They can't cremate Teddy, his body would keep burning for too long
from being gin-soaked all these decades.


All of Ted Kennedy's sins do not add up to a pimple compared to the
horrors perpetrated on this country and the world by George W. Bush and
Dick Cheney.


Where did the Kennedy money come from?

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 10:25 am, wrote:
On Aug 28, 10:09 am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Aug 28, 9:41 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights
issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives,
(and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating
to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail
option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.
Set up? Apparently Senator Craig entered a men's room known to be
frequented by those looking for gay encounters, and "signaled" a
cop in
the next stall. He admitted this, and entered a plea. Are you saying
that everyone knew Craig was going to that men's room for a
"date," and
they were waiting for him? :}
Man, you need to cut back on whatever psychotropics you are taking.
Oh, and once again, I don't care who Senator Craig diddles. It's
only of
interest to me because he is yet another example of a
right-wing-extremist sexual hypocrite.
Apparently he plead to lewd conduct, not the events as you describe
them, in fact he has stated his side of the story and it's nothing
like you said. But you just keep making up facts as you go along, your
comrades don't mind a little dishonesty when it comes to politics.
Again, no moral core, just power. Like I said in another post. I have
heard two top dems (Schumer and Lannie Davis) both in the last 24
hours admit Gonzales was a good AG, they just did not like his
politics, period. That is not democracy, that is not American.
So, tell us, and don't mince your words. What sort of "lewd conduct"
might a 62-old US Senator engage in in a men's room at an airport, a
men's room known to be a place gays use for assignations?
I'm not surprised that Craig's side of the story is different from what
actually happened. Are you?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You have to understand my point of view. Basically I think it is
another setup, so most of the rest is moot. The vast left wing
conspiracy always goes directly at whatever cause the righty has, the
numbers just don't add up. I'm not surprised the democratic activist
cops story is what it is either, hope he got paid well for his
treason.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Anyway, according to the report, Craig "tapped his foot in a manner
recognized by the officer as a signal for sex" !? He tapped his foot?
This was a setup, plain and simple. The guy walked in and took a crap
in the middle of a "show of force" sting on the part of the local PD.
As to the plea, it was probably a bad decision, but can you imagine if
he had gone to trial? The haters and bigots on the left would have had
a field day, probably made the right decision in that case. Just
happens one of Clintons investigators dug it up, nothing new, like I
said, if you can't win in the voting booth...


Craig did more than tap his foot.


Really, what did he do? What did it mean?

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On Aug 29, 12:03 am, -rick- wrote:
wrote:
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong.

The mental contortions some people go through to maintain a
preferred world view is truly impressive.

Yes, the party of hate and intolerance has gone through quite a
contortion to read a police report about someone tapping their foot
and calling it a lewd act, surprised they did not call it rape, or
even dog fighting. We know they just make it up as they go along, the
worst part is in the face of obvious lies from their leaders, dems
don't or won't even ask, they just don't want to know.

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On Aug 29, 12:03 am, -rick- wrote:
wrote:
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong.

The mental contortions some people go through to maintain a
preferred world view is truly impressive.

Oh, and what would you call reading in black and white records of
someone being convicted of disorderly conduct, for tapping his foot
and calling it a lewd act, or homosexual activity? Are you a mental
contortionist, intellectually dishonest, or just plain ignorant?

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On Aug 29, 12:03 am, -rick- wrote:
wrote:
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong.

The mental contortions some people go through to maintain a
preferred world view is truly impressive.

Oh, and what would you call reading in black and white records of
someone being convicted of disorderly conduct, for tapping his foot
and calling it a lewd act, or homosexual activity? Are you a mental
contortionist, intellectually dishonest, or just plain ignorant?

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On Aug 29, 7:09 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 29, 12:03 am, -rick- wrote:
wrote:
Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong.
The mental contortions some people go through to maintain a
preferred world view is truly impressive.

Oh, and what would you call reading in black and white records of
someone being convicted of disorderly conduct, for tapping his foot
and calling it a lewd act, or homosexual activity? Are you a mental
contortionist, intellectually dishonest, or just plain ignorant?

Craig copped a plea. He was offered the opportunity to plead guilt to a
lesser offense, and he went for it. There's nothing unusual about that.

It's kind of funny that you, Chuck, and a few Republicans (very few)
here and there believe Craig was duped.

At least we are considering the options, your party just beleives
whatever is convienient, despite any real evidence, without any real
integerity.