Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic


Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."

On Aug 28, 6:27 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic

Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is just your lie. We talk no more of family values than Hillary
or Obama. Of course maybe you mean, we mean it, dems just use it as an
election tool depending on which special interest they are addressing.
I just don't see how anyone can watch Hillary with her adjusted
accents and views and not even question. That is what we call bought
and paid for. I for instance am probably much more accepting of
different lifestyles, "because" I am a christian and a libretarian,
mostly though of as being right of center, not in spite of my core.

wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:27 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.
Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."
Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)
So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.
--Vic
Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is just your lie. We talk no more of family values than Hillary
or Obama. Of course maybe you mean, we mean it, dems just use it as an
election tool depending on which special interest they are addressing.
I just don't see how anyone can watch Hillary with her adjusted
accents and views and not even question. That is what we call bought
and paid for. I for instance am probably much more accepting of
different lifestyles, "because" I am a christian and a libretarian,
mostly though of as being right of center, not in spite of my core.


Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."

Again, I don't give a damn who Senator Craig wants to poke or be poked
by, just that he is yet another right-wing hypocritical asshole.

On Aug 28, 9:11 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:27 am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.
Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."
Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)
So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.
--Vic
Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is just your lie. We talk no more of family values than Hillary
or Obama. Of course maybe you mean, we mean it, dems just use it as an
election tool depending on which special interest they are addressing.
I just don't see how anyone can watch Hillary with her adjusted
accents and views and not even question. That is what we call bought
and paid for. I for instance am probably much more accepting of
different lifestyles, "because" I am a christian and a libretarian,
mostly though of as being right of center, not in spite of my core.

Larry Craig has been outspoken in opposition to gay rights issues, and
he is a "favorite" of crazy right-wing organizations, such as the
"Family Research Council."



Now it starts coming together, the guy was set up and handled it
wrong. The problem with democratic activists and paid operatives, (and
some parker captains) is they have no problem lying or cheating to get
to where they need to be, so which one was the cop, activist, or
bought and paid for? Of course, there is also the blackmail option, I
would like to know if Hillary had his FBI files in her office.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:27:12 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:36 -0400, HK wrote:
In a statement issued today, Craig sys he was not involved in any
inappropriate conduct.

Craig, who is up for re-election next year, says at the time of the
incident he complained to police that - quote - "they were misconstruing
my actions."

Sorry Harry. Turns out when you learn what really happened, Craig is
right.
1. Peering into the crack between the door and jamb of the stall.
(Maybe some stall doors swing shut in that bathroom, and have no locks
or inoperative locks. You have to either look in the crack or barge
in to see if it's occupied. Or bend down and look under the door for
feet. Been in similar situations myself.)
2. Foot touching the foot of the person in the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he has a wide stance when squatting. Sounds perfectly
reasonable. Remember Johnny Bench?)
3. Reaching under the divider and into the adjacent stall.
(Craig said he dropped a piece of paper. Can happen to anybody.)

So there you are. The man is innocent and probably the victim of a
smear campaign, or an overly aggressive cop wanting to pad his stats.
BTW, did you know that in 1421 the Chinese circumnavigated the world
in huge ships, mapped the Americas and established the Apache tribe in
Arizona? Happened right after the Vikings went home.
Anyway, I hope you show proper contrition about what you said
concerning Craig.

--Vic


Hey...I don't don't care who the guy wants to entertain. The only point
of interest is that it is yet another example of "conservative
republican family values."

Looks like I spoke too soon. Everybody else is saying the guy is
"gay."
Well, I tried to defend him. Even invoked Johnny Bench.
It's just not working.

--Vic