Brian Nystrom wrote:

Despite Pete's comments to the contrary, I consider a "relief zipper" in
a dry suit to be a must-have item, along with booties and a double
tunnel. I find that the diagonal chest zipper is not positioned properly
to easily be used as a relief zipper ...

Depends on the design.

The diagonal chest zipper *is* well positioned for male relief purposes
on a the MTI Palm Sidewinder drysuit. Picture he
http://theboatpeople.com/atr_riverwear.html#Drysuits

Data point: my Kokatat relief zipper leaks. I know because I paddle
and IK and get a lot of water splashed into my lap.

But I still recommend Kokatat due to their excellent repair service.

Per Bill Tuthill:
But I still recommend Kokatat due to their excellent repair service.

A lot of people do - and I might too.

But, based on experience, I wouldn't recommend them for their
after-market alteration service.

On my custom suit, they got the belt tunnel way too high - so the
crotch is halfway to my knees when it's cinched. This becomes a
problem when you get dumped. The legs vacuum bag to your bod
and, if the crotch is too low at that moment you cannot drop into
a squatting position. You have to lay back in the water to get a
little air in there and wiggle around until you can get the
crotch back up where it belongs. It's also a problem when
windsurfing/water starting.

I was perfectly willing to pay to have it lowered, but they
didn't want any part of it.
--
PeteCresswell

On Aug 27, 1:27 pm, Bill Tuthill wrote:
Brian Nystrom wrote:

Despite Pete's comments to the contrary, I consider a "relief zipper" in
a dry suit to be a must-have item, along with booties and a double
tunnel. I find that the diagonal chest zipper is not positioned properly
to easily be used as a relief zipper ...

Depends on the design.

The diagonal chest zipper *is* well positioned for male relief purposes
on a the MTI Palm Sidewinder drysuit. Picture hehttp://theboatpeople.com/atr_riverwear.html#Drysuits

You needn't pay an extra $250 to $300 upcharge for a Goretex version
because Palm's are made of a breathable tri-laminate hybrid fabric that
called XP100 with an excellent rip-stop characteristics.

Three grammar errors in a single sentence? Why do I doubt the
professionalism of "theboatpeople"?

Oci-One Kanubi wrote:

http://theboatpeople.com/atr_riverwear.html#Drysuits
You needn't pay an extra $250 to $300 upcharge for a Goretex version
because Palm's are made of a breathable tri-laminate hybrid fabric that
called XP100 with an excellent rip-stop characteristics.

Three grammar errors in a single sentence? Why do I doubt the
professionalism of "theboatpeople"?

Well yes, the Boat People are originally rafters
and rafters are not as well-educated as kayakers or
(especially) open canoeists.

In "Snake Eyes," a good novel by famous Canadian writer Margaret Atwood,
I found 11 spelling or grammar errors, but that was over ~ 200 pages.
However she had both editor and publisher!

On Aug 29, 2:19 pm, Bill Tuthill wrote:
Oci-One Kanubi wrote:

http://theboatpeople.com/atr_riverwear.html#Drysuits
You needn't pay an extra $250 to $300 upcharge for a Goretex version
because Palm's are made of a breathable tri-laminate hybrid fabric that
called XP100 with an excellent rip-stop characteristics.

Three grammar errors in a single sentence? Why do I doubt the
professionalism of "theboatpeople"?

Well yes, the Boat People are originally rafters
and rafters are not as well-educated as kayakers or
(especially) open canoeists.

In "Snake Eyes," a good novel by famous Canadian writer Margaret Atwood,
I found 11 spelling or grammar errors, but that was over ~ 200 pages.
However she had both editor and publisher!

As you can well imagine, Bill, I am *never* guilty of typos, spellos,
grammaticos, or thinkos! And I always demonstrate good judgment and
impeccable taste!