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Don White August 21st 07 01:21 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I can't
blame them. This past summer they've been out only a handful of times. At
$3000/year (roughly) for storage and maintenance, that makes the use of a
boat pretty expensive.

So, the 21' Proline 211, walkaround cuddy, with a Mercruiser 5.7L and
Alpha 1 outdrive will be sold or traded in. The engine has somewhere in
the neighborhood of 500 hours thereon. Not sure exactly, 'cause I've not
used it in the past couple months, although the kids have.

If there's any interest here, let me know!

The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H


Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless. For me, it's
the first time in about 10 years.
A local guy was scouting out a couple of Sandpiper 565s in Quebec and
Michigan... but wanted to see an example up close before the long road trip.
After my Rendezvous, and when it was painfully obvious the wife wasn't about
to become excited with the prospect of sailing on a semi-regular basis, I
decided to offer my boat to this local guy. He was happy to get a newer
boat and save himself the long voyage to pick up one from the wild interior
of the country.
Sure seems lonely out there in the driveway without a boat to look at.
Hopefully I'll have a nice little open boat parked there before too long.
So long 'Pipe Down'...I hope you spend a lot more time in the water in the
coming years than you have in the past four summers.
see the two of us at Rosseau lake in the Muskoka Region of Ontario earlier
this month...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nonRosseau.jpg


John H. August 21st 07 01:25 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I can't
blame them. This past summer they've been out only a handful of times. At
$3000/year (roughly) for storage and maintenance, that makes the use of a
boat pretty expensive.

So, the 21' Proline 211, walkaround cuddy, with a Mercruiser 5.7L and
Alpha 1 outdrive will be sold or traded in. The engine has somewhere in
the neighborhood of 500 hours thereon. Not sure exactly, 'cause I've not
used it in the past couple months, although the kids have.

If there's any interest here, let me know!

The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H

Short Wave Sportfishing August 21st 07 02:46 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:21:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I can't
blame them. This past summer they've been out only a handful of times. At
$3000/year (roughly) for storage and maintenance, that makes the use of a
boat pretty expensive.

So, the 21' Proline 211, walkaround cuddy, with a Mercruiser 5.7L and
Alpha 1 outdrive will be sold or traded in. The engine has somewhere in
the neighborhood of 500 hours thereon. Not sure exactly, 'cause I've not
used it in the past couple months, although the kids have.

If there's any interest here, let me know!

The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H


Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless. For me, it's
the first time in about 10 years.
A local guy was scouting out a couple of Sandpiper 565s in Quebec and
Michigan... but wanted to see an example up close before the long road trip.
After my Rendezvous, and when it was painfully obvious the wife wasn't about
to become excited with the prospect of sailing on a semi-regular basis, I
decided to offer my boat to this local guy. He was happy to get a newer
boat and save himself the long voyage to pick up one from the wild interior
of the country.
Sure seems lonely out there in the driveway without a boat to look at.
Hopefully I'll have a nice little open boat parked there before too long.
So long 'Pipe Down'...I hope you spend a lot more time in the water in the
coming years than you have in the past four summers.
see the two of us at Rosseau lake in the Muskoka Region of Ontario earlier
this month...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nonRosseau.jpg


I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?

Jim August 21st 07 03:09 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:21:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost
of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I
can't
blame them. This past summer they've been out only a handful of times.
At
$3000/year (roughly) for storage and maintenance, that makes the use of
a
boat pretty expensive.

So, the 21' Proline 211, walkaround cuddy, with a Mercruiser 5.7L and
Alpha 1 outdrive will be sold or traded in. The engine has somewhere in
the neighborhood of 500 hours thereon. Not sure exactly, 'cause I've
not
used it in the past couple months, although the kids have.

If there's any interest here, let me know!

The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded
in on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly
the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with
an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H
Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless. For me,
it's the first time in about 10 years.
A local guy was scouting out a couple of Sandpiper 565s in Quebec and
Michigan... but wanted to see an example up close before the long road
trip.
After my Rendezvous, and when it was painfully obvious the wife wasn't
about to become excited with the prospect of sailing on a semi-regular
basis, I decided to offer my boat to this local guy. He was happy to
get a newer boat and save himself the long voyage to pick up one from
the wild interior of the country.
Sure seems lonely out there in the driveway without a boat to look at.
Hopefully I'll have a nice little open boat parked there before too
long.
So long 'Pipe Down'...I hope you spend a lot more time in the water in
the coming years than you have in the past four summers.
see the two of us at Rosseau lake in the Muskoka Region of Ontario
earlier this month...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nonRosseau.jpg


I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?




Anyone looking for a sweet family boat might like this slightly used Grady
over at Tri-State:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/20ftgw2005turn.html


Boat looks brand new.


Now there's a boat you might coax a lady to go out in.


--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Don White August 21st 07 03:42 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Anyone looking for a sweet family boat might like this slightly used Grady
over at Tri-State:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/20ftgw2005turn.html


Boat looks brand new.



The wife would probably like that boat. I don't trust her though. I'd have
to be sure she'd be spending a lot of time on it before I could justify that
expense on a 'working class hero' pension.
On the other hand it would be a good incentive for her to keep working for
the next few years. :-)



Don White August 21st 07 03:43 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?


Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.




[email protected] August 21st 07 03:51 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Aug 21, 10:43 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:65rlc35u26355d8t3q691b72b71795cru5@4ax .com...



I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.


Good enough?


Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.


Gonna' get that Princecraft? Been in that boat, it is a great ride.


Don White August 21st 07 03:58 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?


Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.



Is Tom in Gitmo again?


Gotta get him up to Canada to escape all the oppression.



Don White August 21st 07 04:35 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
On Aug 21, 10:43 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:65rlc35u26355d8t3q691b72b71795cru5@4ax .com...



I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.


Good enough?


Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.


Gonna' get that Princecraft? Been in that boat, it is a great ride.


Guess I'd better if Tom drags it all the way up here!



Don White August 21st 07 04:48 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
For the 'truckers' in this newsgroup...............

.....hangin' out with the big boys at truck stops on the way to
Ontario...............
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...thebigboys.jpg



JimH August 21st 07 09:04 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Jim" wrote in message
.. .

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...




Anyone looking for a sweet family boat might like this slightly used
Grady over at Tri-State:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/20ftgw2005turn.html


Boat looks brand new.


Now there's a boat you might coax a lady to go out in.



Yep!



JimH August 21st 07 09:15 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...


The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H


Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless.



The ladies on those 18 foot Key West boats all seem to be saying.....will
you get back to the dock alread....I have to pee! ;-)



Short Wave Sportfishing August 21st 07 09:23 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:47:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?


Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.


Is Tom in Gitmo again?


Yes - I'm down here with my special torture technique.

A steady diet of refried bean burittos.

After a couple of days, even in the open air, they will talk.

Heh, heh, heh...

John H. August 21st 07 10:24 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:15:57 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
.. .

"John H." wrote in message
...


The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H


Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless.



The ladies on those 18 foot Key West boats all seem to be saying.....will
you get back to the dock alread....I have to pee! ;-)


So you stop, let them get in the water, and take a pee. No big deal. Of
course, not all the waterways are as pristine as Lake Erie, so for you
folks in Cleveland, it may *be* a big deal.
--
John H

John H. August 21st 07 10:29 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:21:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I can't
blame them. This past summer they've been out only a handful of times. At
$3000/year (roughly) for storage and maintenance, that makes the use of a
boat pretty expensive.

So, the 21' Proline 211, walkaround cuddy, with a Mercruiser 5.7L and
Alpha 1 outdrive will be sold or traded in. The engine has somewhere in
the neighborhood of 500 hours thereon. Not sure exactly, 'cause I've not
used it in the past couple months, although the kids have.

If there's any interest here, let me know!

The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H


Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless. For me, it's
the first time in about 10 years.
A local guy was scouting out a couple of Sandpiper 565s in Quebec and
Michigan... but wanted to see an example up close before the long road trip.
After my Rendezvous, and when it was painfully obvious the wife wasn't about
to become excited with the prospect of sailing on a semi-regular basis, I
decided to offer my boat to this local guy. He was happy to get a newer
boat and save himself the long voyage to pick up one from the wild interior
of the country.
Sure seems lonely out there in the driveway without a boat to look at.
Hopefully I'll have a nice little open boat parked there before too long.
So long 'Pipe Down'...I hope you spend a lot more time in the water in the
coming years than you have in the past four summers.
see the two of us at Rosseau lake in the Muskoka Region of Ontario earlier
this month...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nonRosseau.jpg


Damn, I didn't realize you were selling your boat! Are you planning to buy
the one Tom has? I liked the looks of that boat. Maybe your wife would be
up for a boat with a bit more room.
--
John H

John H. August 21st 07 10:32 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:23:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:47:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?

Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.


Is Tom in Gitmo again?


Yes - I'm down here with my special torture technique.

A steady diet of refried bean burittos.

After a couple of days, even in the open air, they will talk.

Heh, heh, heh...


You mean, you won't even give them 'Beano'? Or, are *you* the one who's
going to eat all the beans?

Any thoughts on this:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html ?
--
John H

John H. August 21st 07 11:12 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:38:12 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"John H." wrote in message
...


The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H
Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless.



The ladies on those 18 foot Key West boats all seem to be saying.....will
you get back to the dock alread....I have to pee! ;-)






I always carried a porti-potti on my "headless" boats. This time we're
trying a stowable chemical porti-potti. I like the concept much better
than the tank full of liquids, as it were.

Other than their lightness and the fact that they have three piece
hulls, the only problems I see with those Key Wests involve the lack of
"floor space" because of the "casting deck" up forward, and the bitty
motor well/splash board in front of the transom. It doesn't look like it
has the capacity to handle the outflow of one of my beer drinking
buddies, let alone the wake of a floating RV. My last SeaPro had a
transom like that. When water wanted to wash aboard, it did. It doesn't
look as it if has much freeboard, either.


Given the amount of time you spend boating and the knowledge you've
acquired about fishing, your opinion is invaluable.

The jump seats aft are removeable, giving more room for walking. What
appears to be a 'bitty motor well' is a 30 gallon live well. I found
casting from the front of a boat worked quite well, even with the cuddy
cabin on the ProLine. The casting deck can also be covered with an optional
cushion, making it a great place for grandkids to sit.

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!

Hell, I may get it sooner than I thought to take advantage of trophy
striper season in the Bay next spring!
--
John H

John H. August 21st 07 11:14 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:55:18 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:47:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?
Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.
Is Tom in Gitmo again?


Yes - I'm down here with my special torture technique.

A steady diet of refried bean burittos.

After a couple of days, even in the open air, they will talk.

Heh, heh, heh...



Where the hell are you? I'll be in Norfolk tomorrow, and Gene has
classes and can't meet me. Are you in the 'hood? Hell, I'll pop for a
nice shore lunch just for the privilege of seeing how ugly and ungainly
you actually are!


Hell Harry, for the pleasure of your company, I'm sure Tom would take you
to the most expensive place in Norfolk!
--
John H

Don White August 21st 07 11:38 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:21:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I
can't
blame them. This past summer they've been out only a handful of times.
At
$3000/year (roughly) for storage and maintenance, that makes the use of
a
boat pretty expensive.

So, the 21' Proline 211, walkaround cuddy, with a Mercruiser 5.7L and
Alpha 1 outdrive will be sold or traded in. The engine has somewhere in
the neighborhood of 500 hours thereon. Not sure exactly, 'cause I've not
used it in the past couple months, although the kids have.

If there's any interest here, let me know!

The marina also sells Key West boats, so the ProLine might get traded in
on
one. It's not a Scout, but he Key West is quite similar, with mostly the
same amenities. I'm thinking of this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html

Clicking on the 'Printable Brochure' provides some more pictures with an
overhead shot.

Alas, an open transom isn't even on the list of options.
--
John H


Looks like we have something in common. We're both boatless. For me,
it's
the first time in about 10 years.
A local guy was scouting out a couple of Sandpiper 565s in Quebec and
Michigan... but wanted to see an example up close before the long road
trip.
After my Rendezvous, and when it was painfully obvious the wife wasn't
about
to become excited with the prospect of sailing on a semi-regular basis, I
decided to offer my boat to this local guy. He was happy to get a newer
boat and save himself the long voyage to pick up one from the wild
interior
of the country.
Sure seems lonely out there in the driveway without a boat to look at.
Hopefully I'll have a nice little open boat parked there before too long.
So long 'Pipe Down'...I hope you spend a lot more time in the water in the
coming years than you have in the past four summers.
see the two of us at Rosseau lake in the Muskoka Region of Ontario earlier
this month...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...nonRosseau.jpg


Damn, I didn't realize you were selling your boat! Are you planning to buy
the one Tom has? I liked the looks of that boat. Maybe your wife would be
up for a boat with a bit more room.
--
John H


At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay (calmer
days) for a little fooling around. Did I mention our ramps are shallow?
This area is more set up for keelboats or larger motorboats kept at a slip
or on a mooring.



Short Wave Sportfishing August 22nd 07 11:54 AM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:55:18 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:47:38 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
I should be back home and on my way by Labor Day.

Good enough?
Sounds great. I'll send you a direct e-mail re options.
Is Tom in Gitmo again?


Yes - I'm down here with my special torture technique.

A steady diet of refried bean burittos.

After a couple of days, even in the open air, they will talk.

Heh, heh, heh...


Where the hell are you? I'll be in Norfolk tomorrow, and Gene has
classes and can't meet me. Are you in the 'hood? Hell, I'll pop for a
nice shore lunch just for the privilege of seeing how ugly and ungainly
you actually are!


In the "hood" in the sense of kinda.

I'm back in Lexington - probably until Sunday, maybe Monday. Had to
come down to look at a boat, then do this house deal which got sticky
and my son has a project going on at his place that I'm baby sitting
the contractors on.

If I decide to head up 95, I'll give you a shout and we'll hook up
somehwere along the way for lunch.

It's all in the timing - I hate the 95 corridor through Washington and
will do almost anything to avoid it including taking the back country
route up 77.

Short Wave Sportfishing August 22nd 07 12:16 PM

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:32:34 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Any thoughts on this:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html ?


I like the newer models. I haven't been in that model, but I have
driven and fished out of this one

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/2020cc.html

and liked it a lot. It's fairly well thought out, but it fits the CC
is a CC is a CC model to a T.

However, it is well appointed. I don't like the lack of rear deck
space - my Ranger has more rear deck space as you can see from this
picture, but it's not the most comfortable boat to ride in.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Ranger.JPG

The one thing I didn't like about it was the console seating. I don't
know how tall your wife is, but if she wants to sit on that type of
seat, it can be uncomfortable for the ladies with short legs - there's
no place to put your feet.

The side-to-side issue for me is getting around that console - it's a
little awkward and if you put a cooler ahead of the console for a
day's messing around, you have amost no deck space. But that's a
problem most CC of this type suffer from - another neat thing about my
Ranger is that it has a built in cooler ahead of the console and you
can walk around it with little or no problems. If you put a T-top on
it, that's another space issue.

Female spousal amenities are also lacking, but I don't image you will
be heading out for much more that four/five hours at a time. If you
want to spend a day on the water, you need to look at something
bigger.

I'll tell you the truth - just based on conversations we've had here
in the past about boats and what not, I think you'd be much happier
with something like this:

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Rec/default3.asp?boatid=8

Short Wave Sportfishing August 22nd 07 12:22 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!


Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.

Short Wave Sportfishing August 22nd 07 12:23 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:38:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay (calmer
days) for a little fooling around.


You will really like the Princecraft - it's perfect for that kind of
activity.

Don White August 22nd 07 01:52 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:38:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay (calmer
days) for a little fooling around.


You will really like the Princecraft - it's perfect for that kind of
activity.


I called a local Princecraft dealer about the practicality of installing the
side console option.
He warned me it wouldn't be as nice looking as the original factory
installed ones on slightly higher end Princecraft boats.
See this example of one on sale in Cape Breton.
(he also said unit & installation would be over $1200.00.)
http://capebreton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd...b0/a9e9_18.JPG

I'll do without!



[email protected] August 22nd 07 02:09 PM

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On Aug 22, 8:52 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:257oc3h9qi2uic573u7tpde1v8nmvlpcl7@4ax .com...

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:38:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay (calmer
days) for a little fooling around.


You will really like the Princecraft - it's perfect for that kind of
activity.


I called a local Princecraft dealer about the practicality of installing the
side console option.
He warned me it wouldn't be as nice looking as the original factory
installed ones on slightly higher end Princecraft boats.
See this example of one on sale in Cape Breton.
(he also said unit & installation would be over $1200.00.)http://capebreton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd...64086&img=http...

I'll do without!


I would have bought that boat if I had the dough. You are going to get
a bunch of use out of it, based on your stated needs. Anyway, if I
bought it I would keep it a tiller drive. Dogs tend to take up a lot
of floor space in small boats and with the rear thwart configuration,
a tiller drive is just the ticket. Keep it simple, keep it tiller.


Don White August 22nd 07 02:33 PM

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wrote in message
ps.com...
On Aug 22, 8:52 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:257oc3h9qi2uic573u7tpde1v8nmvlpcl7@4ax .com...

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:38:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to
make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay
(calmer
days) for a little fooling around.


You will really like the Princecraft - it's perfect for that kind of
activity.


I called a local Princecraft dealer about the practicality of installing
the
side console option.
He warned me it wouldn't be as nice looking as the original factory
installed ones on slightly higher end Princecraft boats.
See this example of one on sale in Cape Breton.
(he also said unit & installation would be over
$1200.00.)http://capebreton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd...64086&img=http...

I'll do without!


I would have bought that boat if I had the dough. You are going to get
a bunch of use out of it, based on your stated needs. Anyway, if I
bought it I would keep it a tiller drive. Dogs tend to take up a lot
of floor space in small boats and with the rear thwart configuration,
a tiller drive is just the ticket. Keep it simple, keep it tiller.


I wonder if anyone has made up a tiller extension....(as you see on
sailboats) to help trim when boating solo.
I figure it would have to be a plastic pipe/conduit with an inside diameter
just slightly larger than the tiller handle.
The extension (maybe with some rubber type material inside) should allow
you to steer *and* increase/decrease engine speed.
Would it help to sit on that middle bulkhead seat for trimming purpose?



Don White August 22nd 07 02:54 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ps.com...
On Aug 22, 8:52 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:257oc3h9qi2uic573u7tpde1v8nmvlpcl7@4ax .com...

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:38:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to
make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay
(calmer
days) for a little fooling around.

You will really like the Princecraft - it's perfect for that kind of
activity.

I called a local Princecraft dealer about the practicality of installing
the
side console option.
He warned me it wouldn't be as nice looking as the original factory
installed ones on slightly higher end Princecraft boats.
See this example of one on sale in Cape Breton.
(he also said unit & installation would be over
$1200.00.)http://capebreton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd...64086&img=http...

I'll do without!


I would have bought that boat if I had the dough. You are going to get
a bunch of use out of it, based on your stated needs. Anyway, if I
bought it I would keep it a tiller drive. Dogs tend to take up a lot
of floor space in small boats and with the rear thwart configuration,
a tiller drive is just the ticket. Keep it simple, keep it tiller.


I wonder if anyone has made up a tiller extension....(as you see on
sailboats) to help trim when boating solo.
I figure it would have to be a plastic pipe/conduit with an inside
diameter just slightly larger than the tiller handle.
The extension (maybe with some rubber type material inside) should allow
you to steer *and* increase/decrease engine speed.
Would it help to sit on that middle bulkhead seat for trimming purpose?


Just went hunting...these things seem common enough... maybe even way up
here.
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0029965017444a.shtml



[email protected] August 22nd 07 03:07 PM

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On Aug 22, 9:33 am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

ps.com...





On Aug 22, 8:52 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:257oc3h9qi2uic573u7tpde1v8nmvlpcl7@4ax .com...


On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:38:14 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


At this point I'm think about me and the dog. I want to be able to
make a
snap decision and either run out to a local lake or protected bay
(calmer
days) for a little fooling around.


You will really like the Princecraft - it's perfect for that kind of
activity.


I called a local Princecraft dealer about the practicality of installing
the
side console option.
He warned me it wouldn't be as nice looking as the original factory
installed ones on slightly higher end Princecraft boats.
See this example of one on sale in Cape Breton.
(he also said unit & installation would be over
$1200.00.)http://capebreton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd...64086&img=http...


I'll do without!


I would have bought that boat if I had the dough. You are going to get
a bunch of use out of it, based on your stated needs. Anyway, if I
bought it I would keep it a tiller drive. Dogs tend to take up a lot
of floor space in small boats and with the rear thwart configuration,
a tiller drive is just the ticket. Keep it simple, keep it tiller.


I wonder if anyone has made up a tiller extension....(as you see on
sailboats) to help trim when boating solo.
I figure it would have to be a plastic pipe/conduit with an inside diameter
just slightly larger than the tiller handle.
The extension (maybe with some rubber type material inside) should allow
you to steer *and* increase/decrease engine speed.
Would it help to sit on that middle bulkhead seat for trimming purpose?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can get one at most west marine, boat us type stores. They are
kind of gangly from what I saw a few years back, but maybe they have
made them nicer by now. Don't want to speak for SW but with the offset
in the rear seats, and the storage box in front of the front seat, you
may find it just fine to steer from the back. Besides trimming small
boats? That's what dogs are for;)


Short Wave Sportfishing August 22nd 07 04:26 PM

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:33:10 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

I wonder if anyone has made up a tiller extension....(as you see on
sailboats) to help trim when boating solo.


You don't need it. The boat is perfectly balanced.

I'm serious.

Don White August 22nd 07 06:59 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:33:10 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

I wonder if anyone has made up a tiller extension....(as you see on
sailboats) to help trim when boating solo.


You don't need it. The boat is perfectly balanced.

I'm serious.


Super...... I'm anxious to give it a run.



moskowitz August 22nd 07 07:40 PM

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I would like to discuss this, Harry. Susan

Harry Krause wrote:
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I can't

[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]

Good enough?


Anyone looking for a sweet family boat might like this slightly used
Grady over at Tri-State:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/20ftgw2005turn.html

Boat looks brand new.



Don White August 22nd 07 10:52 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!


Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.


The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H


You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?



JimH August 22nd 07 11:12 PM

Gonna sell a boat!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!


Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.


I totally agree. Going out on the boat with the guys is one thing, but if
one expects his wife to join in on fishing or cruising trip then providing a
private head area is in good taste.......perhaps mandatory if one wants to
keep the boss happy. ;-)



JimH August 22nd 07 11:15 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty
on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty
was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H


You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?

Yes, it is.


How fun............swimming in the Bay with your kids and seeing someones
turds pass by.



John H. August 22nd 07 11:24 PM

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!


Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.


The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H

JimH August 22nd 07 11:27 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders.
And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender,
that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a
potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty
was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H
You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?
Yes, it is.


How fun............swimming in the Bay with your kids and seeing someones
turds pass by.



I don't swim in Chesapeake Bay. I also don't go fishing in the Potomac
River just downstream from the Blue Plains sewage treatment plant, but
lots of guys do.


The fish from that area, especially the bottom feeders, must be yummy for
those guys. Yuk!



John H. August 22nd 07 11:32 PM

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:16:26 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:32:34 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Any thoughts on this:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html ?


I like the newer models. I haven't been in that model, but I have
driven and fished out of this one

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/2020cc.html

and liked it a lot. It's fairly well thought out, but it fits the CC
is a CC is a CC model to a T.

However, it is well appointed. I don't like the lack of rear deck
space - my Ranger has more rear deck space as you can see from this
picture, but it's not the most comfortable boat to ride in.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Ranger.JPG

The one thing I didn't like about it was the console seating. I don't
know how tall your wife is, but if she wants to sit on that type of
seat, it can be uncomfortable for the ladies with short legs - there's
no place to put your feet.


I'll probably have to buy one of the footrests that slide up and down a
pedestal, and then modify it to fit. Either that or get a small cooler for
her feet. She's been most adaptable when it comes to boating.

The side-to-side issue for me is getting around that console - it's a
little awkward and if you put a cooler ahead of the console for a
day's messing around, you have amost no deck space. But that's a
problem most CC of this type suffer from - another neat thing about my
Ranger is that it has a built in cooler ahead of the console and you
can walk around it with little or no problems. If you put a T-top on
it, that's another space issue.


I'd be putting a bimini on the boat, which has it's own drawbacks with
respect to fishing. But, I've had to put up with biminis before. They're
liveable, just somewhat a pain in the ass.


Female spousal amenities are also lacking, but I don't image you will
be heading out for much more that four/five hours at a time. If you
want to spend a day on the water, you need to look at something
bigger.

With the wife on board, we'd be going to a boater's beach. I'd never
envision a trip of more than an hour or two to get to one. Trolling is a
different matter, but she's not into that anyway.

I'll tell you the truth - just based on conversations we've had here
in the past about boats and what not, I think you'd be much happier
with something like this:

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Rec/default3.asp?boatid=8


Which Whaler is that. I couldn't get directly to the boat without going
through the home page. Then I didn't know which boat it was! I'm for sure
getting something less than 19'.

Thanks for the time put in to the answer, and the advice. Always
appreciated.
--
John H

Dan August 23rd 07 01:03 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders.
And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods.
Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender,
that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a
potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a
potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H
You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't
that against the law down there?
Yes, it is.


How fun............swimming in the Bay with your kids and seeing
someones turds pass by.



I don't swim in Chesapeake Bay. I also don't go fishing in the Potomac
River just downstream from the Blue Plains sewage treatment plant, but
lots of guys do.


You don't put your boat in the water. We already know that, Harry.

John H. August 23rd 07 01:46 AM

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:52:16 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!

Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.


The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H


You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?


Probably, but it was an emergency situation. I suppose I could have called
the Coast Guard to come and rescue the guy, and let him go all over *their*
boat, but that wouldn't have been nice.
--
John H

John H. August 23rd 07 01:47 AM

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:02:47 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H


You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?


Yes, it is. But, hey, Herring is one of those conservative Republican
Bush-****ters. The rules don't apply to them, because, as well all know,
there's no global warming and no environmental challenges, either.


Harry, you're such a neat guy. It's an honor to be mentioned in a post of
your's.

At least, Harry, there's honesty.
--
John H


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