I would like to discuss this, Harry. Susan

Harry Krause wrote:
The kids, when presented with the option of taking over the full cost of
storage and getting a boat, have decided they don't want the boat. I can't
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]

Good enough?

Anyone looking for a sweet family boat might like this slightly used
Grady over at Tri-State:

http://www.tristatemarine.com/20ftgw2005turn.html

Boat looks brand new.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!

Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.

The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H

You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!

Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.

I totally agree. Going out on the boat with the guys is one thing, but if
one expects his wife to join in on fishing or cruising trip then providing a
private head area is in good taste.......perhaps mandatory if one wants to
keep the boss happy. ;-)

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty
on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty
was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H

You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?
Yes, it is.

How fun............swimming in the Bay with your kids and seeing someones
turds pass by.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!

Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.

The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders.
And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender,
that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a
potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty
was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H
You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?
Yes, it is.

How fun............swimming in the Bay with your kids and seeing someones
turds pass by.


I don't swim in Chesapeake Bay. I also don't go fishing in the Potomac
River just downstream from the Blue Plains sewage treatment plant, but
lots of guys do.


The fish from that area, especially the bottom feeders, must be yummy for
those guys. Yuk!

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:16:26 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:32:34 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Any thoughts on this:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/186cc.html ?

I like the newer models. I haven't been in that model, but I have
driven and fished out of this one

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/2020cc.html

and liked it a lot. It's fairly well thought out, but it fits the CC
is a CC is a CC model to a T.

However, it is well appointed. I don't like the lack of rear deck
space - my Ranger has more rear deck space as you can see from this
picture, but it's not the most comfortable boat to ride in.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Ranger.JPG

The one thing I didn't like about it was the console seating. I don't
know how tall your wife is, but if she wants to sit on that type of
seat, it can be uncomfortable for the ladies with short legs - there's
no place to put your feet.

I'll probably have to buy one of the footrests that slide up and down a
pedestal, and then modify it to fit. Either that or get a small cooler for
her feet. She's been most adaptable when it comes to boating.

The side-to-side issue for me is getting around that console - it's a
little awkward and if you put a cooler ahead of the console for a
day's messing around, you have amost no deck space. But that's a
problem most CC of this type suffer from - another neat thing about my
Ranger is that it has a built in cooler ahead of the console and you
can walk around it with little or no problems. If you put a T-top on
it, that's another space issue.


I'd be putting a bimini on the boat, which has it's own drawbacks with
respect to fishing. But, I've had to put up with biminis before. They're
liveable, just somewhat a pain in the ass.


Female spousal amenities are also lacking, but I don't image you will
be heading out for much more that four/five hours at a time. If you
want to spend a day on the water, you need to look at something
bigger.

With the wife on board, we'd be going to a boater's beach. I'd never
envision a trip of more than an hour or two to get to one. Trolling is a
different matter, but she's not into that anyway.

I'll tell you the truth - just based on conversations we've had here
in the past about boats and what not, I think you'd be much happier
with something like this:

http://www.bostonwhaler.com/Rec/default3.asp?boatid=8

Which Whaler is that. I couldn't get directly to the boat without going
through the home page. Then I didn't know which boat it was! I'm for sure
getting something less than 19'.

Thanks for the time put in to the answer, and the advice. Always
appreciated.
--
John H

Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders.
And, with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods.
Just think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender,
that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a
potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a
potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H
You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't
that against the law down there?
Yes, it is.

How fun............swimming in the Bay with your kids and seeing
someones turds pass by.



I don't swim in Chesapeake Bay. I also don't go fishing in the Potomac
River just downstream from the Blue Plains sewage treatment plant, but
lots of guys do.


You don't put your boat in the water. We already know that, Harry.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:52:16 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!

Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.

The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H

You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?


Probably, but it was an emergency situation. I suppose I could have called
the Coast Guard to come and rescue the guy, and let him go all over *their*
boat, but that wouldn't have been nice.
--
John H

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:02:47 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:22:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:12:36 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Remember, this is a multi-purpose boat! Note all the rod holders. And,
with
the removal of the aft jump seats one can haul four more rods. Just
think,
trolling with eight rods on an 18' boat!
Been there, done that - it sucks. :)

In my way of thinking, it's important to have those amenities that
appeal to the distaff side of humanity. I know on the Contender, that
was one thing Mrs. Wave really liked about the boat - it was like her
bathroom at home.

I know you have an issue with towing and associated problems with
launching and retrieving, but it may pay you to look at stepping up a
couple of feet just to get the step down console.
The wife and I had a 15' Whaler for a couple years. The lack of a potty on
board was never a problem. Even with the ProLine, the lack of a potty was
never a problem, except for a guy who got the runs while fishing. He
learned to use a bucket with water therein.
--
John H

You had someone crap into a bucket and than dump overboard? Isn't that
against the law down there?


Yes, it is. But, hey, Herring is one of those conservative Republican
Bush-****ters. The rules don't apply to them, because, as well all know,
there's no global warming and no environmental challenges, either.

Harry, you're such a neat guy. It's an honor to be mentioned in a post of
your's.

At least, Harry, there's honesty.
--
John H