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Short Wave Sportfishing August 16th 07 10:39 PM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:43:45 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


And look what they put on that great boat.

A POS Yamaha.

Unbelievable - waste of tax payers money.

Mike August 17th 07 12:13 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)

Guess they didn't consult with the "experts" here...


LOL, Harry you are taking this way to serious. The discussion of open
transom vs. a boat with an engine well is one that the experts do discuss
and is a great topic for rec.boats.

Here is David Pascoe take on open transoms (
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/GradyWhite24.htm)

Our main concern was the open transom with no motor well. We measured the
cockpit deck at 5-1/2" above the water line with a 4" deep well and open
scuppers. It has a removable plastic panel across the back which isn't
going to do much for security. Any wave crashing over the stern is going
to bend and force that unsupported panel out of its side mounting
channels. And because its easily removable, chances are that you will
remove it in order to gain the extra space. After all, that's why its
there. Apparently the idea is that if you are dumb enough to remove it,
they'll let you do that. In addition, there were two leaky plastic
inspection ports at the bottom of the well, and the hole in the side of
the liner for the engine controls (bottom right photo) is cut below the
level of the transom cut-down.

Since I've done a bit of night-time snapper fishing out on the reefs,
drifting along in the dark, I know what a big wave over the transom can
mean. You tend to forget what the 3 foot wake of a passing ship miles away
can do to the boat. It comes along completely unexpected and catches you
off-guard. To suddenly have a couple of feet of water crashing into the
cockpit, in the dark, out on the ocean, late at night, when you know that
the deck is not watertight, is a terrifying experience. If you survive it.
Ever have a boat go out from under you? I have, and I can tell you that
what you start thinking about is floating over a reef with your feet
dangling down. Suddenly the idea of becoming fishbait bait yourself
becomes very real. Take a close look at the photo below right and you'll
see why.

Another review of Open Transom boat by an owner:
http://www.everythingboats.com/ryob/...ew&boat_id=354

Boat Reviews By Owners

1985 -- 22' 2" GRADY WHITE

Model: Tournament

Cockpit: Lots of space and storage, open transom dangerous offshore,good
fishing boat for bays and coastal.

http://www.everythingboats.com/ryob/...ew&boat_id=354

Construction: Built poorly, Open tansom, impossible to get to bilge pump
when in the water without removing about fifty screws, Plywood laminated
transom rotted, sides are not thru bolted or glassed to the gunwale, stres
cracks galore, some blisters,bad ride on a 2 foot chop,electrical panel
had to be replaced, fuel tank rests on bottom of bilge and had to be
replaced, un exposed fiberglass surfaces are poorly finished, lots of
exposed plywood with out fiberglass,


Heck, even 3 of our more serious salt water fishermen in rec.boats (ones
who ACTUALLY use their boats) have stated their preference not to have an
open transom boat. Gene was surprised that a 21' boat had an open
transom, so you should be glad that your boat has encouraged such a great
on topic discussion.

If you like to have your feet wet, and water sloshing around your deck it
is no big deal.

Heck since you only use the boat 25 hours or so a year, why should you
care.




JimH August 17th 07 12:33 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)



I think it is great that both you aholes have nothing better to do than to
worry and complain about what another boater and NG member purchased.

Get a life.



HK August 17th 07 12:44 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 
JimH wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)



I think it is great that both you aholes have nothing better to do than to
worry and complain about what another boater and NG member purchased.

Get a life.




Well, you wouldn't expect reggie retardo to post anything about his
life, would you?

JimH August 17th 07 12:53 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)



I think it is great that both you aholes have nothing better to do than
to worry and complain about what another boater and NG member purchased.

Get a life.



Well, you wouldn't expect reggie retardo to post anything about his life,
would you?



Has he ever done so?



HK August 17th 07 01:02 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)

I think it is great that both you aholes have nothing better to do than
to worry and complain about what another boater and NG member purchased.

Get a life.


Well, you wouldn't expect reggie retardo to post anything about his life,
would you?



Has he ever done so?



Not when I saw his posts. His presence here was based upon snotty
comments about others that he denied were snotty. I suppose he fooled
some of the idiots.

Reginald P. Smithers III August 17th 07 02:01 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 
JimH wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)



I think it is great that both you aholes have nothing better to do than to
worry and complain about what another boater and NG member purchased.

Get a life.



JimH,
I know you would rather tell us all of your personal problems, but some
of us find a real boating conversation a pleasant change.

Mike August 17th 07 06:53 AM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 
Hey, I don't give a rat's behind what anyone purchases. I was just
commenting on his defense of what some perceive as a potentially dangerous
design. I find it humerous, that's all. I have a wierd sense of humor...
what can I say?

Like I said, I'm an inland boater with twin inboard engines, and a full
height transom... what do I know.

BTW, only people who know me personally have the privilege of calling me an
ahole, pal!

--Mike

"JimH" ask wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I thinks it's great how he feels the need to defend the open transom so
rigorously.

Hey, I'm an inland boater... what do I know. :-)

--Mike

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
...
HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


1999 Parker 2100SE (modified vee bottom)



I think it is great that both you aholes have nothing better to do than to
worry and complain about what another boater and NG member purchased.

Get a life.




CalifBill August 17th 07 07:57 PM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:43:45 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


And look what they put on that great boat.

A POS Yamaha.

Unbelievable - waste of tax payers money.


They did not want Canadian motor. Ehaust always goes Eh. Eh. Eh. Eh. Eh.
Eh. Eh. Eh. Eh.



Don White August 17th 07 08:01 PM

Danger! Fire rescue squad at risk...
 

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:43:45 -0400, HK wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2juohq


And look what they put on that great boat.

A POS Yamaha.

Unbelievable - waste of tax payers money.


They did not want Canadian motor. Ehaust always goes Eh. Eh. Eh. Eh.
Eh. Eh. Eh. Eh. Eh.



I wouldn't want to be within 100 feet of your exhaust!




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