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Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
We use the name PORT side to define the left side but is this a Naval
tradition because boats would dock on it's port side or is it irrelevant ? Thanks |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:18:45 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote: We use the name PORT side to define the left side but is this a Naval tradition because boats would dock on it's port side or is it irrelevant ? Tradition holds that answer to be the correct one. The reason is because the steering-board or oar was usually located on the starboard side which prevented the ship from docking on to starboard. Selected sentences from my handy dandy book of nautical terms: "Starboard is a corruption of the Alglo-Saxon steorbord (steer board) which hung over the right-hand side of the vessel. The left hand side was known as larboard (loading side). In 1844, the British Admirality officially changed the term larboard to port which was quickly adopted by the US, French, Spanish and German Navy." Interesting little tidbit - remember what I said about the stickers? That idea came from the British who used to put red and green ribbons on their recruits hats so they could tell port from starboard when facing forward. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Aug 11, 9:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:18:45 -0700, quizno mouse wrote: We use the name PORT side to define the left side but is this a Naval tradition because boats would dock on it's port side or is it irrelevant ? Tradition holds that answer to be the correct one. The reason is because the steering-board or oar was usually located on the starboard side which prevented the ship from docking on to starboard. Selected sentences from my handy dandy book of nautical terms: "Starboard is a corruption of the Alglo-Saxon steorbord (steer board) which hung over the right-hand side of the vessel. The left hand side was known as larboard (loading side). In 1844, the British Admirality officially changed the term larboard to port which was quickly adopted by the US, French, Spanish and German Navy." Interesting little tidbit - remember what I said about the stickers? That idea came from the British who used to put red and green ribbons on their recruits hats so they could tell port from starboard when facing forward. Thanks for the interesting historical data on the subject. Now I know more than I did this morning. Sincere regards |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Aug 11, 9:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote
"Starboard is a corruption of the Alglo-Saxon steorbord (steer board) which hung over the right-hand side of the vessel. The left hand side was known as larboard (loading side). In 1844, the British Admirality officially changed the term larboard to port which was quickly adopted by the US, French, Spanish and German Navy." Oh these Anglo Saxons claim too much! Scandanavians were trotting around the globe in long ships in 800 A.D. when the anglo saxons were floating around on logs in the Thames river wondering what was on the other side. The word starboard for a ship's right side comes from the an old Norse word for steeringboard which was always on the right side of the ship. The left side was called the larboard which comes again from old Norse meaning the loading side. Those confounded English changed it to the "Port side." |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:55:20 -0700, roger
wrote: On Aug 11, 9:36 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote "Starboard is a corruption of the Alglo-Saxon steorbord (steer board) which hung over the right-hand side of the vessel. The left hand side was known as larboard (loading side). In 1844, the British Admirality officially changed the term larboard to port which was quickly adopted by the US, French, Spanish and German Navy." Oh these Anglo Saxons claim too much! Scandanavians were trotting around the globe in long ships in 800 A.D. when the anglo saxons were floating around on logs in the Thames river wondering what was on the other side. Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. The word starboard for a ship's right side comes from the an old Norse word for steeringboard which was always on the right side of the ship. The left side was called the larboard which comes again from old Norse meaning the loading side. Those confounded English changed it to the "Port side." The word starboard comes from Old English steorbord, literally meaning the side on which the ship is steered. The old English term steorbord descends from the Old Norse words stýri meaning “rudder” and borđ meaning “side of a ship”. Notice the subtle difference? One word, two words? Scandi scum want to claim credit for everything. :) |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I
believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:11:04 -0700, roger
wrote: Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) Did you know that Vikings discovered everywhere? It's true. Why all humanity isn't worshipping Thor, Odin and be all blond hair, blue eyed, I'll never figure out. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
"roger" wrote in message oups.com... Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) Viking/Norse, but they didn't last long, the settlement died off. Newfoundland I think. Should have picked a nicer place down south like Plymouth. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
Canuck57 wrote:
"roger" wrote in message oups.com... Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) Viking/Norse, but they didn't last long, the settlement died off. Newfoundland I think. Should have picked a nicer place down south like Plymouth. Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:24 -0400, HK wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: "roger" wrote in message oups.com... Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) Viking/Norse, but they didn't last long, the settlement died off. Newfoundland I think. Should have picked a nicer place down south like Plymouth. Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? Nope. Vikings discovered the land bridge. Those guys really got around. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:24 -0400, HK wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "roger" wrote in message oups.com... Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) Viking/Norse, but they didn't last long, the settlement died off. Newfoundland I think. Should have picked a nicer place down south like Plymouth. Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? Nope. Vikings discovered the land bridge. Those guys really got around. Ahh, the Asian Vikings. The ones who ended up in Minnesota and also invented football. Thanks. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
"Canuck57" wrote in message news:pwDwi.61379$fJ5.36968@pd7urf1no... Viking/Norse, but they didn't last long, the settlement died off. Newfoundland I think. Should have picked a nicer place down south like Plymouth. Not such a bad place in the summer... http://www.cdli.ca/CITE/v_lanse.htm |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:00:50 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:24 -0400, HK wrote: Canuck57 wrote: "roger" wrote in message oups.com... Why yes - I think they discovered Idaho somewhere around that time I believe. Also Japan and Peru. Well I am glad we know who really discovered America. The vikings, not Columbus. Well, if you ask the Indians they would say they did. But I won't split hairs. And aren't they offended if you call them "indians"? And isn't the word "they" offensive when referring to an ethnic group? Forget it I am going boating. : ) Viking/Norse, but they didn't last long, the settlement died off. Newfoundland I think. Should have picked a nicer place down south like Plymouth. Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? Nope. Vikings discovered the land bridge. Those guys really got around. Ahh, the Asian Vikings. The ones who ended up in Minnesota and also invented football. Thanks. Go it in one. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:24 -0400, HK wrote: Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? Nope. Vikings discovered the land bridge. Those guys really got around. They were highly motivated to get out of the house. Ever see a Viking wife? Eisboch |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:55:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:24 -0400, HK wrote: Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? Nope. Vikings discovered the land bridge. Those guys really got around. They were highly motivated to get out of the house. Ever see a Viking wife? Good point. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Aug 15, 12:55 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:6m16c39h6ionku8ud7ut1feiliui8siini@4ax .com... On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:56:24 -0400, HK wrote: Isn't it fairly well proven that the first settlers in the Americas wandered over from Asia when there was a land bridge connecting it to what is now Alaska? Nope. Vikings discovered the land bridge. Those guys really got around. They were highly motivated to get out of the house. Ever see a Viking wife? Eisboch too funny |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
They were highly motivated to get out of the house. Ever see a Viking
wife? Eisboch ================================= You mean they didn't all look like the one doing the shaving cream commercial??? ("Take it off,....take it all off!!) And as far as Anglo/Viking boaters, it was the Arabs that taught us how to sail..... ============================================ |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
Tradition holds that answer to be the correct one. The reason is because
the steering-board or oar was usually located on the starboard side which prevented the ship from docking on to starboard. Selected sentences from my handy dandy book of nautical terms: "Starboard is a corruption of the Alglo-Saxon steorbord (steer board) which hung over the right-hand side of the vessel. The left hand side was known as larboard (loading side). ================================== And here I thought was because they kept their wine on the Left side to keep the sun and stars from shining on it and thus affecting the bouquet....... ============================================ |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Aug 16, 9:55 am, (N.L. Eckert) wrote:
And as far as Anglo/Viking boaters, it was the Arabs that taught us how to sail..... ============================================ too bad they let themselves get left behind. It must be all that obsession with Islam. No time left anything else. I hear they still sail the same types of boats up and down the coast of africa like they did for thousands of years on trade routes. |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
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Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
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Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:21:10 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Did you know that Vikings discovered everywhere? It's true. Why all humanity isn't worshipping Thor, Odin and be all blond hair, blue eyed, I'll never figure out. We do. Wednesday = Woden's Day. Thursday = Thor's Day. Friday = Frigga's Day. And so on. ;) :D druid http://www.bcboatnet.org |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
"druid" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:21:10 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Did you know that Vikings discovered everywhere? It's true. Why all humanity isn't worshipping Thor, Odin and be all blond hair, blue eyed, I'll never figure out. We do. Wednesday = Woden's Day. Thursday = Thor's Day. Friday = Frigga's Day. And so on. ;) :D druid http://www.bcboatnet.org Only one frigga day a week? |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:21:46 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "druid" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:21:10 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Did you know that Vikings discovered everywhere? It's true. Why all humanity isn't worshipping Thor, Odin and be all blond hair, blue eyed, I'll never figure out. We do. Wednesday = Woden's Day. Thursday = Thor's Day. Friday = Frigga's Day. And so on. ;) :D druid http://www.bcboatnet.org Only one frigga day a week? Dammit - beat me to it. :) |
Is the word PORT side used because of ancient reasons ?
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:39:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:21:46 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "druid" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:21:10 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Did you know that Vikings discovered everywhere? It's true. Why all humanity isn't worshipping Thor, Odin and be all blond hair, blue eyed, I'll never figure out. We do. Wednesday = Woden's Day. Thursday = Thor's Day. Friday = Frigga's Day. And so on. ;) :D druid http://www.bcboatnet.org Only one frigga day a week? Dammit - beat me to it. :) justafrekkin shoulda had it. |
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