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HK August 11th 07 11:59 PM

What a Day!
 
Got out for a while this afternoon, and in terms of visibility, I cannot
report another day as good.

The air was absolutely crystal-clear and while I usually can see parts
of the "western" Eastern Shore from this side, today was a lot
different, because we could see more of it than ever, and for a much
longer area, north to south.

Even though the winds were out of the northeast, they were light and so
was the chop.

Wow!

JimH August 12th 07 12:07 AM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Got out for a while this afternoon, and in terms of visibility, I cannot
report another day as good.

The air was absolutely crystal-clear and while I usually can see parts of
the "western" Eastern Shore from this side, today was a lot different,
because we could see more of it than ever, and for a much longer area,
north to south.

Even though the winds were out of the northeast, they were light and so
was the chop.

Wow!


You did not sink due to that low transom? ;-)

Glad to hear you had a good day.



HK August 12th 07 12:38 AM

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Got out for a while this afternoon, and in terms of visibility, I cannot
report another day as good.

The air was absolutely crystal-clear and while I usually can see parts of
the "western" Eastern Shore from this side, today was a lot different,
because we could see more of it than ever, and for a much longer area,
north to south.

Even though the winds were out of the northeast, they were light and so
was the chop.

Wow!


You did not sink due to that low transom? ;-)

Glad to hear you had a good day.




You know, it's too bad there probably isn't a Parker dealer near you,
because if there was, you would have a good laugh. Parker makes and has
made boats with the same sort of notched transom for years now, and
virtually all of them are used as salt water fishing boats. There are
18, 21, 23 and 25-footers with the same design transom, and of course,
in the 23, 25, and 28-foot models, you can also get yourself a Parker
with a "full" transom and a bracket. This, though, is one of Parker's
most popular salt water fishing boats:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=19

Here's the 23-footer:

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa...l.jsp?boatid=8


Oh...forgot...Parker offers a "splashguard" for the model hull I have.
Most buyers do not opt for it or, if they do, have it removed. :}

A number of other very successful boat manufacturers offer boats in the
same size ranges with notched transoms.

When I lived in Florida, I used to wander offshore 20 miles or so in
18-20 foot boats with notched transoms, "euro" transoms, and, in the
case of a 17-foot Boston Whaler a low straight-across transom in a boat
that didn't even have a self-bailing cockpit. Waves crashing over the
stern were never an issue, nor were they an issue at any time in my
boating lifetime. Taking a greenie over the bow was a concern. The low
transom helps get rid of water that might come for a visit that way.

This seems to be "an issue" among some of the posters here, mostly the
ones with little or no ocean experience. Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet. In an open fishing boat. Perhaps
they ought to stick to bitty bodies of water or their bathtubs.

Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 01:14 AM

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 01:23 AM

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

This, though, is one of Parker's
most popular salt water fishing boats


Don't see a lot of them around these parts. If somebody is going to
pop for a Parker, they will generally go for a Steiger.

http://steigercraft.com/main/docs/la...ture=BI231.jpg

Don White August 12th 07 01:35 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/



[email protected] August 12th 07 01:44 AM

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On Aug 11, 8:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:0mjsb3tuaajq7dhjk4djfgd3lq0u9bgnf6@4ax .com...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:


Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.


I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,


I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.http://www.crocs.com/


I have a pair of solomon sneaker/sandals. Fit and look like sneakers,
with a draw string and all quick dry materials. They work great in the
water and look fine with a pair of socks under for dinner.


HK August 12th 07 01:53 AM

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wrote:
On Aug 11, 8:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:0mjsb3tuaajq7dhjk4djfgd3lq0u9bgnf6@4ax .com...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:
Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.
I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,
I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/

I have a pair of solomon sneaker/sandals. Fit and look like sneakers,
with a draw string and all quick dry materials. They work great in the
water and look fine with a pair of socks under for dinner.



I wear beach sandals. They're non-slip on the bottom and basically are a
padded sole piece with straps. I expect to get wet.

JimH August 12th 07 02:01 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


Don't you feet get wet just wearing them?



JimH August 12th 07 02:05 AM

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"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Aug 11, 8:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:0mjsb3tuaajq7dhjk4djfgd3lq0u9bgnf6@4ax .com...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:
Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.
I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,
I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/

I have a pair of solomon sneaker/sandals. Fit and look like sneakers,
with a draw string and all quick dry materials. They work great in the
water and look fine with a pair of socks under for dinner.



I wear beach sandals. They're non-slip on the bottom and basically are a
padded sole piece with straps. I expect to get wet.


I normally take my sandals or shoes off once entering the boat. The only
exception is during early and late season fishing.



[email protected] August 12th 07 02:05 AM

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On Aug 11, 8:53 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 11, 8:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:0mjsb3tuaajq7dhjk4djfgd3lq0u9bgnf6@4ax .com...


On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:
Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.
I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,
I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.http://www.crocs.com/


I have a pair of solomon sneaker/sandals. Fit and look like sneakers,
with a draw string and all quick dry materials. They work great in the
water and look fine with a pair of socks under for dinner.


I wear beach sandals. They're non-slip on the bottom and basically are a
padded sole piece with straps. I expect to get wet.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I boat in rocky areas, the tough mesh sides and full toe
construction come in handy, and again, they will dry as fast as a pair
of crocks, and they are as comfortable and fitted as a great pair of
sneakers. They won't pull off in mud either like the old boat shoes I
used to have.

Anyway, we had a great day on the water today, caught a bunch of fish,
the kids were taking them by hand, dog chasing squirrels on the shore.
Lost track of my dog, and I never do that. I am a stickler for folks
whos dogs don't listen. Anyway, looked over and he was quietly sitting
down the bank with some other folks, just sittin' there, like he was
supposed to be there. The folks did not seem to mind, we took the time
to apologize anyway. Not quite so hot today, very little wind, it was
a real nice day, will try to post some pictures later.


Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 02:14 AM

What a Day!
 
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)

D.Duck August 12th 07 02:22 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Maybe sandals, shorts and black socks?



Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 02:37 AM

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:22:21 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Maybe sandals, shorts and black socks?


Everybody knows you don't wear socks with sandals.

And it drives me nuts when I see folks wearing shoes and no socks.

That's disgusting.

Don White August 12th 07 02:39 AM

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"JimH" ask wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


Don't you feet get wet just wearing them?


Nope...all full of ventilation holes.
Canadian invention by the way. i read a while ago that they are thinking of
other uses for the material... such as padding in sports equipment.
They don't hold a smell and wash out easily. Nurses love them for hospital
work.



Don White August 12th 07 02:41 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?



HK August 12th 07 02:41 AM

What a Day!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:22:21 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/
1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)

Maybe sandals, shorts and black socks?


Everybody knows you don't wear socks with sandals.

And it drives me nuts when I see folks wearing shoes and no socks.

That's disgusting.



Uh, maybe you need some of this:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...wyellow7in.jpg

HK August 12th 07 02:42 AM

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Don White wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/

1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?



In a tux?

JimH August 12th 07 02:58 AM

What a Day!
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?


Boating in jeans, wool socks and steel toed Wolverine work
boots................no thanks. :-)



Vic Smith August 12th 07 02:59 AM

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:22:21 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Maybe sandals, shorts and black socks?

I always have to hunt up some white socks for when I go to Florida,
which is the only place I ever wear shorts.
One time the tops of my feet got so sun burned I had to wear socks
on the beach. A pretty young lady stopped by where I was sitting
on a towel - my wife was in our room - and coyly asked me why I had my
socks on. I told her my feet were badly sunburned, and she walked
away.
I've sometimes wondered if she was trying to pick me up, or just
wondered why I was sitting on the beach with my socks on.
It was probably all about the socks.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 11:47 AM

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:41:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?


I have drive on trailers.

HK August 12th 07 11:57 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:41:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/
1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)

Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?


I have drive on trailers.



Is that a euphemism for a (shudder) roller trailer?

Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 12:30 PM

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:57:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:41:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/
1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)
Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?


I have drive on trailers.


Is that a euphemism for a (shudder) roller trailer?


Nope - bunks.

[email protected] August 12th 07 12:42 PM

What a Day!
 
On Aug 11, 9:41 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:qjnsb352lhfhnrtnsnjn1b645acml7j2q4@4ax .com...





On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:


Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.


I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,


I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.


2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.


3 - I also don't wear shorts.


4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


SW, wade in?? Good God man, what are you thinking??


HK August 12th 07 12:49 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:57:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:41:11 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/
1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)
Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?
I have drive on trailers.

Is that a euphemism for a (shudder) roller trailer?


Nope - bunks.



Oh, you use your boat engine to drive the boat up onto the trailer.

The two or three different ramp sites I've been using allow a more
gentle approach. The water is pretty deep and the ramp angle ain't bad,
so with a rope attached to the bow eye, I can physically pull the boat a
good distance onto the trailer. I then attach the winch strap and crank
the boat onto the trailer the rest of the way. Did that with the
original Yo Ho and as a result, there wasn't a mark on her bottom.

Do you have "glides" on your bunks, or do you use any sprays to increase
slipperyness?

Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 01:47 PM

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:49:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Oh, you use your boat engine to drive the boat up onto the trailer.


Yep.

The two or three different ramp sites I've been using allow a more
gentle approach. The water is pretty deep and the ramp angle ain't bad,
so with a rope attached to the bow eye, I can physically pull the boat a
good distance onto the trailer. I then attach the winch strap and crank
the boat onto the trailer the rest of the way. Did that with the
original Yo Ho and as a result, there wasn't a mark on her bottom.


The technique differs with the Princecraft - on gentle slope ramps, I
drive it up, on steep ramps, I can pull it onto the trailer and then
winch it up.

With the Ranger, it's strictly drive on - the only time I use the
winch is to secure the boat to the trailer.

Do you have "glides" on your bunks, or do you use any sprays to increase
slipperyness?


Wax. I wax the carpet down in sunlight (the bunks are black) using
regular old bees wax or canning wax.

Do it twice a year.

With the special trailer I had for the Contender, those were rollers
and that was a piece of cake to get on and off.

Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 01:47 PM

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:42:28 -0000,
wrote:

On Aug 11, 9:41 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:


Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.


I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,


I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/

1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.


2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.


3 - I also don't wear shorts.


4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?- Hide quoted text -

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SW, wade in?? Good God man, what are you thinking??


The voice of experience. :)

Don White August 12th 07 01:57 PM

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:57:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:41:11 -0300, "Don White"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK
wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/
1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)
Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?
I have drive on trailers.
Is that a euphemism for a (shudder) roller trailer?


Nope - bunks.



Oh, you use your boat engine to drive the boat up onto the trailer.

The two or three different ramp sites I've been using allow a more gentle
approach. The water is pretty deep and the ramp angle ain't bad, so with a
rope attached to the bow eye, I can physically pull the boat a good
distance onto the trailer. I then attach the winch strap and crank the
boat onto the trailer the rest of the way. Did that with the original Yo
Ho and as a result, there wasn't a mark on her bottom.

Do you have "glides" on your bunks, or do you use any sprays to increase
slipperyness?


Reminds me of what a treat it was to use the ramp on Lake Rousseau.
Perfect slope, my sailboat easily floated off the trailer and was a snap to
re-load.
Sure wish the local builders could learn how to build a decent ramp.



Don White August 12th 07 01:58 PM

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On Aug 11, 9:41 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK
wrote:


Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.


I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,


I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.


I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/


1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.


2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.


3 - I also don't wear shorts.


4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)


Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


SW, wade in?? Good God man, what are you thinking??


Sorry, thought he was one of those rugged outdoors types.



Short Wave Sportfishing August 12th 07 02:30 PM

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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:58:07 -0300, "Don White"
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wrote in message
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On Aug 11, 9:41 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK
wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/

1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.

2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.

3 - I also don't wear shorts.

4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)

Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


SW, wade in?? Good God man, what are you thinking??


Sorry, thought he was one of those rugged outdoors types.


Don't know about rugged, but I am certainly an outdoors types.

I just don't like getting my feet wet.

There are reasons.

[email protected] August 12th 07 02:33 PM

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On Aug 12, 8:58 am, "Don White" wrote:

SW, wade in?? Good God man, what are you thinking??


Sorry, thought he was one of those rugged outdoors types.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, he is, that's why he has that 200 horse loading winch!


HK August 12th 07 02:45 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:58:07 -0300, "Don White"
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On Aug 11, 9:41 pm, "Don White" wrote:
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:35:09 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK
wrote:
Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.
I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,
I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I have two pairs of the original style 'Crocs'.
Couldn't care less if I get my feet wet.
http://www.crocs.com/
1 - Allow me to repeat - I don't like getting my feet wet.
2 - I don't wear sandals. Shoes and socks.
3 - I also don't wear shorts.
4 - I would make the obligatory commentary about guys wearing sandals
and shorts, but I won't. :)
Don't wear shorts?
Good grief... how do you wade out into the water during retrieval?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
SW, wade in?? Good God man, what are you thinking??

Sorry, thought he was one of those rugged outdoors types.


Don't know about rugged, but I am certainly an outdoors types.

I just don't like getting my feet wet.

There are reasons.



Speaking of getting wet...when's your next trip through these here
parts? We can go fishing in Son of Yo Ho and you can wear my yellow
lobsterman's knee boots to protect your feet in case any of that nasty
wetness comes over the transom.

Eisboch August 12th 07 06:06 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet


Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.



I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that size
that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If I want to
get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch



HK August 12th 07 06:09 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet

Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.



I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that size
that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If I want to
get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch




Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over the
bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put them
on the gunnels or console), and,

2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.


Eisboch August 12th 07 06:22 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.



I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that
size that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If I
want to get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch



Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over the
bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put them
on the gunnels or console), and,


Yes, which is also why I prefer a seat rather than a leaning post. Just
lift your feet up.


2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.


My limited experience has been that the "rather small" scuppers .... (in
many cases not even scuppers, but rather inefficient drains), are slow to
self bail. Doesn't matter in your case because you like wet feet. I
modified one of the open, CC's I had with some decent sized, real scuppers
to rid the deck more quickly. I don't like walking around the back of the
boat going "splosh, splosh, splosh".

Eisboch



HK August 12th 07 06:30 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that
size that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If I
want to get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch


Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over the
bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put them
on the gunnels or console), and,


Yes, which is also why I prefer a seat rather than a leaning post. Just
lift your feet up.


2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.


My limited experience has been that the "rather small" scuppers .... (in
many cases not even scuppers, but rather inefficient drains), are slow to
self bail. Doesn't matter in your case because you like wet feet. I
modified one of the open, CC's I had with some decent sized, real scuppers
to rid the deck more quickly. I don't like walking around the back of the
boat going "splosh, splosh, splosh".

Eisboch




It isn't a matter of liking my feet wet, it is the realization that in a
small, open fishing boat, they are going to get wet. Hell, when I launch
a trailer boat, I don't unhook the trailer strap from the bow ring until
the stern of the boat is afloat. So, how do I unhook the strap? I walk
out into the water and unhook it. At that point, my feet are already wet.

Don White August 12th 07 06:42 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that
size that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If
I want to get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch

Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over the
bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put them
on the gunnels or console), and,


Yes, which is also why I prefer a seat rather than a leaning post. Just
lift your feet up.


2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.


My limited experience has been that the "rather small" scuppers .... (in
many cases not even scuppers, but rather inefficient drains), are slow to
self bail. Doesn't matter in your case because you like wet feet. I
modified one of the open, CC's I had with some decent sized, real
scuppers to rid the deck more quickly. I don't like walking around the
back of the boat going "splosh, splosh, splosh".

Eisboch



It isn't a matter of liking my feet wet, it is the realization that in a
small, open fishing boat, they are going to get wet. Hell, when I launch a
trailer boat, I don't unhook the trailer strap from the bow ring until the
stern of the boat is afloat. So, how do I unhook the strap? I walk out
into the water and unhook it. At that point, my feet are already wet.


Yep.
Doing just that, I went out a bit too far and had my shorts wet..almost up
to the crotch.
Dries quick enough on nice sunny days.



Eisboch August 12th 07 11:02 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.

I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that
size that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If
I want to get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch

Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over the
bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put them
on the gunnels or console), and,


Yes, which is also why I prefer a seat rather than a leaning post. Just
lift your feet up.


2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.


My limited experience has been that the "rather small" scuppers .... (in
many cases not even scuppers, but rather inefficient drains), are slow to
self bail. Doesn't matter in your case because you like wet feet. I
modified one of the open, CC's I had with some decent sized, real
scuppers to rid the deck more quickly. I don't like walking around the
back of the boat going "splosh, splosh, splosh".

Eisboch



It isn't a matter of liking my feet wet, it is the realization that in a
small, open fishing boat, they are going to get wet. Hell, when I launch a
trailer boat, I don't unhook the trailer strap from the bow ring until the
stern of the boat is afloat. So, how do I unhook the strap? I walk out
into the water and unhook it. At that point, my feet are already wet.


Harry, you need to work on your technique. I've trailer launched and
retrieved many boats from 16 footers to 26 footers by myself and never got
even a toe wet.

Eisboch



HK August 12th 07 11:09 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in that
size that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a greenie. If
I want to get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch
Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over the
bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put them
on the gunnels or console), and,
Yes, which is also why I prefer a seat rather than a leaning post. Just
lift your feet up.


2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.

My limited experience has been that the "rather small" scuppers .... (in
many cases not even scuppers, but rather inefficient drains), are slow to
self bail. Doesn't matter in your case because you like wet feet. I
modified one of the open, CC's I had with some decent sized, real
scuppers to rid the deck more quickly. I don't like walking around the
back of the boat going "splosh, splosh, splosh".

Eisboch


It isn't a matter of liking my feet wet, it is the realization that in a
small, open fishing boat, they are going to get wet. Hell, when I launch a
trailer boat, I don't unhook the trailer strap from the bow ring until the
stern of the boat is afloat. So, how do I unhook the strap? I walk out
into the water and unhook it. At that point, my feet are already wet.


Harry, you need to work on your technique. I've trailer launched and
retrieved many boats from 16 footers to 26 footers by myself and never got
even a toe wet.

Eisboch




But...it doesn't bother me if my feet get wet...


Eisboch August 12th 07 11:15 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:44 -0400, HK
wrote:

Funniest of all are those who
complain about getting their feet wet
Not as "funny" as you think.

I hate getting my feet wet - seriously,

I will go to extreme measures to avoid it.
I agree with that. Especially when there are some decent CC's in
that size that stay dry and self bail quickly in the even of a
greenie. If I want to get wet, I'll go swimming.

Eisboch
Uh, please explain to me how, if you take a substantial greenie over
the bow while you are in a 21' center console boat:

1. your feet are going to stay dry (unless you lift them up and put
them on the gunnels or console), and,
Yes, which is also why I prefer a seat rather than a leaning post.
Just lift your feet up.


2. the hull is going to self-bail quickly through the rather small
scuppers one typically finds on such boats.

My limited experience has been that the "rather small" scuppers ....
(in many cases not even scuppers, but rather inefficient drains), are
slow to self bail. Doesn't matter in your case because you like wet
feet. I modified one of the open, CC's I had with some decent sized,
real scuppers to rid the deck more quickly. I don't like walking
around the back of the boat going "splosh, splosh, splosh".

Eisboch

It isn't a matter of liking my feet wet, it is the realization that in a
small, open fishing boat, they are going to get wet. Hell, when I launch
a trailer boat, I don't unhook the trailer strap from the bow ring until
the stern of the boat is afloat. So, how do I unhook the strap? I walk
out into the water and unhook it. At that point, my feet are already
wet.


Harry, you need to work on your technique. I've trailer launched and
retrieved many boats from 16 footers to 26 footers by myself and never
got even a toe wet.

Eisboch



But...it doesn't bother me if my feet get wet...


I know. But to some of us that still boat when the temps are in the 40's
..... it matters.

Eisboch




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