Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:47 -0400, HK wrote:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105

Opps.

That's the second bay boat of that length that had something like this
happening and it also had a hydraulic jack plate and I think a Yamaha
four stroke.

Just looking at the pictures, it looks serious, but I believe that
Nauticstar uses the same extruded glass technique as Ranger does - so
it may be just a pocket foam situation rather than a stringer.

Interesting all the same.



Well, every method of boatbuilding can encounter boo-boos, but the two
piece hull method offers little but cheapness.

Molding a bottom half of a boat and a top half of a boat and glueing
them together with Plexus saves a lot of labor and weight, and
sometimes it works well and sometimes it doesn't. Sure makes it easy
to hide defects, though.

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the
hull is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then
real stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction.
And then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels
is glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

I dont know, but I do know of a mfr. that is so proud of their work that
they don't finish it off with an inner liner. :-))



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.

Prophetic observation.
JR

Gene Kearns wrote:

If they don't brag about quality construction on their web site, there
probably isn't any....



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Same with my MaXum. When I installed the windlass, the foredeck turned
out to be 1" thick. Solid glass.
JR

HK wrote:



Indeed. I admire the glossiness of my gelcoated inner hull all the time,
knowing that if there were problems or a leak between the hull/deck
joint, I'd know about it.

Last week I watched a rigger drill a hole through the bottom of a Parker
so he could install a second bronze pick-up and valve. The circle he cut
out was 7/8" of an inch thick. No foam, no balsa. Just layer after layer
of fiberglass and resin.


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" Nautic Star is making waves as one of the fastest growing names in the
boating industry".
Not with this level of quality. It's obvious to me they KNEW about the
bond defect during manufacture; slapped some goo over it to cover it up,
and rolled the piece of crap. It's hard to tell, but it looks like the
joint has pulled apart some from stress. It may have looked OK to a
casual glance when new. (After they hid it). Can only get worse.
JR

HK wrote:


http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105


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On Aug 11, 12:23 pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:45:38 -0700, JR North penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

" Nautic Star is making waves as one of the fastest growing names in the
boating industry".
Not with this level of quality. It's obvious to me they KNEW about the
bond defect during manufacture; slapped some goo over it to cover it up,
and rolled the piece of crap. It's hard to tell, but it looks like the
joint has pulled apart some from stress. It may have looked OK to a
casual glance when new. (After they hid it). Can only get worse.
JR

HK wrote:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=647105

This doesn't look like it is going particularly well for the OP (on
the forum), since Nautic Star is starting off down the "cosmetic
damage" road. I don't think this is peeling paint!

It looks to me like the Plexus adhesive may have held, but the FRP (if
that is what it is) may have delaminated.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out....


Well, I would already be at the liar's office, and I am somewhat of a
rightie on issues of litigation. Show those pictures to a Judge,

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

Ranger, Triton, Bass Cat and Gambler I believe.

There is also a company - can't like of the name - Puker, Pucker,
Pansy, Pussy...something like that. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

Ranger, Triton, Bass Cat and Gambler I believe.

There is also a company - can't like of the name - Puker, Pucker,
Pansy, Pussy...something like that. :)


PuckerUp.

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:42:33 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}

Ranger, Triton, Bass Cat and Gambler I believe.

There is also a company - can't like of the name - Puker, Pucker,
Pansy, Pussy...something like that. :)

PuckerUp.

Well, you know that Parker is a very appropriate manufacturer for you
- based strictly on the mount of use you understand.

Get it?

Parker - Park 'Er

Heh, heh, heh...

Sorry - couldn't resist...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:42:33 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}
Ranger, Triton, Bass Cat and Gambler I believe.

There is also a company - can't like of the name - Puker, Pucker,
Pansy, Pussy...something like that. :)
PuckerUp.

Well, you know that Parker is a very appropriate manufacturer for you
- based strictly on the mount of use you understand.

Get it?

Parker - Park 'Er

Heh, heh, heh...

Sorry - couldn't resist...


It's all right. I know when I get you out in my new Parker, you're going
to be worried the entire time about that transom...

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:40:28 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:42:33 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:40:08 -0400, HK wrote:

I kinda like boats that are handbuilt. You know, the kind where the hull
is laid up by hand, and sits in the mold for a week, and then real
stringers are glassed into the hull using box grid construction. And
then a deck is glassed over that, and then the top cap of gunnels is
glassed onto the hull.

Gosh, I wonder who builds boats like that? :}
Ranger, Triton, Bass Cat and Gambler I believe.

There is also a company - can't like of the name - Puker, Pucker,
Pansy, Pussy...something like that. :)
PuckerUp.

Well, you know that Parker is a very appropriate manufacturer for you
- based strictly on the mount of use you understand.

Get it?

Parker - Park 'Er

Heh, heh, heh...

Sorry - couldn't resist...

It's all right. I know when I get you out in my new Parker, you're going
to be worried the entire time about that transom...

Actually, no I'm not.

I just don't like the design - doesn't mean that I'm going to freak
out about it - been on boats like it before.