On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:39:30 -0400, HK wrote:

I've been offshore plenty of times in boats with 15" transoms, including
some of the older Boston Whalers.

If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.

Never tried it. :-)

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:39:30 -0400, HK wrote:

I've been offshore plenty of times in boats with 15" transoms, including
some of the older Boston Whalers.

If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.

Never tried it. :-)

I'd like to, but no one with a Whaler will allow me to get near it with
my Sawzall.

"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:39:30 -0400, HK wrote:

I've been offshore plenty of times in boats with 15" transoms, including
some of the older Boston Whalers.

If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.

Never tried it. :-)

I'd like to, but no one with a Whaler will allow me to get near it with my
Sawzall.

I never tried the saw-it-in-half test, but I have tried the
crab-pot-around-the-motor test in a 17' Whaler. About a foot of water
flooded into the boat while I was "stern-to" before I could cut the line.
The nice part was just a blip of the throttle forced most of it right out
the back over that low transom. I've also taken green water over the bow,
and the low transom just allowed it to shoot right out the back.

I certainly wouldn't want an open transom boat down here during stone crab
season unless it was a Whaler, McKee Craft, Cape Horn, etc with full
*level* floatation.
In fact, an open transom Whaler is about as safe a boat as you can buy.

There was a case of a 50-something year old man, and a 14 year old boy
drowning/dying from cold exposure down here 3 or 4 years ago when their 19'
center console caught a crab pot and turned stern-to. Water temps were 54
degrees, and seas were 3-4'. Although it's not likely to happen, it still
is a genuine concern.

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"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:39:30 -0400, HK wrote:

I've been offshore plenty of times in boats with 15" transoms,
including some of the older Boston Whalers.

If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.

Never tried it. :-)

I'd like to, but no one with a Whaler will allow me to get near it with
my Sawzall.

I never tried the saw-it-in-half test, but I have tried the
crab-pot-around-the-motor test in a 17' Whaler. About a foot of water
flooded into the boat while I was "stern-to" before I could cut the line.
The nice part was just a blip of the throttle forced most of it right out
the back over that low transom. I've also taken green water over the bow,
and the low transom just allowed it to shoot right out the back.

I certainly wouldn't want an open transom boat down here during stone crab
season unless it was a Whaler, McKee Craft, Cape Horn, etc with full
*level* floatation.
In fact, an open transom Whaler is about as safe a boat as you can buy.

There was a case of a 50-something year old man, and a 14 year old boy
drowning/dying from cold exposure down here 3 or 4 years ago when their
19' center console caught a crab pot and turned stern-to. Water temps
were 54 degrees, and seas were 3-4'. Although it's not likely to happen,
it still is a genuine concern.




Problem with at least the smaller whalers is if you get a crab pot line
wrapped on the prop and have good swells, and you go to the back to free the
line, you should have handles on the bottom of the boat to hang on to.
Happened here last year.

Wayne.B wrote:
If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.
Never tried it. :-)

Whaler usually has an aft 1/2 of a boat motoring around at "in the
water" boat shows so, yes, it can be done. I've only seen it in calm
water though. Methinks it'd get a bit wet in a chop ;-)

Rick

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:24:22 -0500, lid wrote:

Methinks it'd get a bit wet in a chop ;-)

Wet is a *lot* better than submerged.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:24:22 -0500, lid wrote:

Methinks it'd get a bit wet in a chop ;-)

Wet is a *lot* better than submerged.


What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat? Are they from Seattle, or something, where an ounce of
spray causes hypothermia?

HK wrote:
What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?

Ha! Didn't say that (should'a made a tongue in cheek emoticon).
Just meant that cutting off the bow of a Whaler would turn it into a
big "scoop" arrangement and would seem more like a ride in an outboard
powered hot tub. That may or may not be your cup of tea ;-)

Rick

lid wrote:
HK wrote:
What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?

Ha! Didn't say that (should'a made a tongue in cheek emoticon).
Just meant that cutting off the bow of a Whaler would turn it into a
big "scoop" arrangement and would seem more like a ride in an outboard
powered hot tub. That may or may not be your cup of tea ;-)

Rick


Not me. I don't even like land-based hot tubs.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:45:39 -0400, HK wrote:

What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?

One of the secrets to happiness in life is to know when you are well
off. Anytime I am warm, dry and well fed three important things have
already gone right that day. And since I'm also on a boat, make that
four things. Add in a good internet connection, fine red wine and
good company - that makes seven.

The wind and rain are whipping today out of the north east. White
caps are rolling past and a sailboat has been driven aground on the
beach about 200 yards to leeward. We're sitting here anchored nice
and peacefully however, 60 thousand pounds and 50 feet of stability,
20 KW generator pumping dehumidified heat, powering internet and
satellite TV, everything functioning just fine. Life is good. I love
boating. :-)