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[email protected] August 10th 07 07:11 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?


Ha! Didn't say that (should'a made a tongue in cheek emoticon).
Just meant that cutting off the bow of a Whaler would turn it into a
big "scoop" arrangement and would seem more like a ride in an outboard
powered hot tub. That may or may not be your cup of tea ;-)

Rick

HK August 10th 07 07:15 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
lid wrote:
HK wrote:
What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?


Ha! Didn't say that (should'a made a tongue in cheek emoticon).
Just meant that cutting off the bow of a Whaler would turn it into a
big "scoop" arrangement and would seem more like a ride in an outboard
powered hot tub. That may or may not be your cup of tea ;-)

Rick



Not me. I don't even like land-based hot tubs.

Wayne.B August 10th 07 07:21 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:44:50 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

It reminded me of the old Skipper threads about "the dangerous Scout
low transom."

I always suggested to him that if he was afraid of getting wet he
probably should give up boating.......


Yes, but you always had to discount everything Skippy said because his
primary objective was to needle Harry (and vice versa). Some of his
posts were funny but in the end it looked like he was going down hill
in a big way. Hopefully his kids took away the car keys at some
point.

Wayne.B August 10th 07 07:52 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:45:39 -0400, HK wrote:

What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?


One of the secrets to happiness in life is to know when you are well
off. Anytime I am warm, dry and well fed three important things have
already gone right that day. And since I'm also on a boat, make that
four things. Add in a good internet connection, fine red wine and
good company - that makes seven.

The wind and rain are whipping today out of the north east. White
caps are rolling past and a sailboat has been driven aground on the
beach about 200 yards to leeward. We're sitting here anchored nice
and peacefully however, 60 thousand pounds and 50 feet of stability,
20 KW generator pumping dehumidified heat, powering internet and
satellite TV, everything functioning just fine. Life is good. I love
boating. :-)

HK August 10th 07 08:11 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:45:39 -0400, HK wrote:

What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?


One of the secrets to happiness in life is to know when you are well
off. Anytime I am warm, dry and well fed three important things have
already gone right that day. And since I'm also on a boat, make that
four things. Add in a good internet connection, fine red wine and
good company - that makes seven.

The wind and rain are whipping today out of the north east. White
caps are rolling past and a sailboat has been driven aground on the
beach about 200 yards to leeward. We're sitting here anchored nice
and peacefully however, 60 thousand pounds and 50 feet of stability,
20 KW generator pumping dehumidified heat, powering internet and
satellite TV, everything functioning just fine. Life is good. I love
boating. :-)




On days like that, I'd rather be doing something more interesting than
lazing on a boat. To each his own.

HK August 10th 07 08:12 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:21:45 -0400, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:44:50 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

It reminded me of the old Skipper threads about "the dangerous Scout
low transom."

I always suggested to him that if he was afraid of getting wet he
probably should give up boating.......

Yes, but you always had to discount everything Skippy said because his
primary objective was to needle Harry (and vice versa). Some of his
posts were funny but in the end it looked like he was going down hill
in a big way. Hopefully his kids took away the car keys at some
point.


When he said, "Scout" he was usually trying to **** off Jeff and/or
Richard.....


check your email, gene.

Wayne.B August 10th 07 08:47 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:11:40 -0400, HK wrote:

On days like that, I'd rather be doing something more interesting than
lazing on a boat. To each his own.


=====================================

Funny that, since we seem to be doing the same thing.

JimH August 10th 07 09:53 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:45:39 -0400, HK wrote:

What is it with these folks who think that one should remain perfectly
dry in a boat?


One of the secrets to happiness in life is to know when you are well
off. Anytime I am warm, dry and well fed three important things have
already gone right that day. And since I'm also on a boat, make that
four things. Add in a good internet connection, fine red wine and
good company - that makes seven.

The wind and rain are whipping today out of the north east. White
caps are rolling past and a sailboat has been driven aground on the
beach about 200 yards to leeward. We're sitting here anchored nice
and peacefully however, 60 thousand pounds and 50 feet of stability,
20 KW generator pumping dehumidified heat, powering internet and
satellite TV, everything functioning just fine. Life is good. I love
boating. :-)


Based on your previous posts of your travels on the GB it sounds like you
are indeed living the good life.......most likely well earned.
Congratulations!



John H. August 10th 07 09:57 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:46:07 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:19:58 -0500, John H.
wrote:

The other 100 hours was spent 'drift fishing' with the engine off. Give
Harry a break. He's never given any reason to doubt his honesty. Has he?


==============================

If you doubt a man's honesty, ask him.


Can't. He'd rather pretend he's got me filtered than engage in a discussion
about honest!
--
John H

Dan August 11th 07 01:41 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg


Wow! A little center console!

Dan August 11th 07 01:42 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:36:54 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg



!! You didn't go for the aluminum trailer ??


Of course I did. But I won't be able to pick it up in Norfolk until
Saturday or Monday. The trailer you see is one of the dealer's yard
trailers. When new boats come in, they have to be stashed on something.
Tri-State uses cradles or trailers to prop up its new boats.


How narcissistic of you, Harry!

Eisboch August 11th 07 01:45 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg


Wow! A little center console!




The boat looks fine.

It's that rusting hulk of a lift in the background that would concern me.

Eisboch



Dan August 11th 07 01:50 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
rom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg


I like these boats but with this model you can't keep your feet dry.
Waves are always coming over the transom.



Interesting. I've owned three recent vintage outboard boats, all smaller
than the Parker, and with 20" instead of 25" transoms. I used them
mostly in the Atlantic Ocean off the Florida coast and I recall one time
when I got a little wave action in over the transom. Of course, I always
made an effort to keep waves from breaking against the stern.

I doubt it will be an issue on the new ride.


20" or 25" transoms? You don't know much about boats, do you?

Here's a hint, sport. It's the shaft length of the motor and not the
height of the transom - big difference.


Dan August 11th 07 01:54 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:39:40 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:36:54 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg


!! You didn't go for the aluminum trailer ??

Of course I did. But I won't be able to pick it up in Norfolk until
Saturday or Monday. The trailer you see is one of the dealer's yard
trailers. When new boats come in, they have to be stashed on
something. Tri-State uses cradles or trailers to prop up its new boats.


Are you getting yours from S&S? I drove to Norfolk to pick up mine....



Yup. Wanna meet me for lunch end of next week? I'm supposed to pick it
up either Saturday the 18th or Monday. Maybe we could pick up a charter
in Virginia Beach. I believe I'll be kinda footloose the end of next
week with my wife visiting her maternal grandma in western North Carolina.


I can't believe Harry posted this. Everything I've read is true.

HK August 11th 07 01:59 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg

Wow! A little center console!




The boat looks fine.

It's that rusting hulk of a lift in the background that would concern me.

Eisboch




In all the years I've been doing business with that dealership, I've
never seen that lift being used. The dealership handles (and I mean
handles) some pretty hefty Grady Whites (36-footers) a variety of ways
with hoist trucks, forklifts, specialized hydraulic trailers, and so
forth. I'll have to ask about it.

I see Dingleberry Dan is back...who left the concrete cover off the
septic tank?


Dan August 11th 07 02:30 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:


Parker offers the cut down transom style on several of its 21, 23 and 25
footers. They have high appeal to *real* fishermen because they allow
direct access to the body of water and fish right at the transom.

I tell you, just about every time I see a "boating-related" post from
certain of the guys here, I chuckle.



In your *hundred hours* of boating these past few years your insanity
has obviously convinced you that you are an expert. Rational people
will find that true fishing boats will have a bracket or, the smaller
ones, will have a higher transom.

Dan August 11th 07 02:36 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:45:39 -0400, HK wrote:

What is it with these folks who think that one should remain
perfectly dry in a boat?


One of the secrets to happiness in life is to know when you are well
off. Anytime I am warm, dry and well fed three important things have
already gone right that day. And since I'm also on a boat, make that
four things. Add in a good internet connection, fine red wine and
good company - that makes seven.

The wind and rain are whipping today out of the north east. White
caps are rolling past and a sailboat has been driven aground on the
beach about 200 yards to leeward. We're sitting here anchored nice
and peacefully however, 60 thousand pounds and 50 feet of stability,
20 KW generator pumping dehumidified heat, powering internet and
satellite TV, everything functioning just fine. Life is good. I love
boating. :-)




On days like that, I'd rather be doing something more interesting than
lazing on a boat. To each his own.


Ummm... Lobsterboat???

[email protected] August 11th 07 02:51 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Aug 10, 9:36 pm, Dan intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote:


Ummm... Lobsterboat???-


Dude, it's Harry, and it's all boating posts, all most likely true.
This whole adventure of his has quite frankly been a good education
for me with all the issures that have crept into the threads. So why
can't you just let it go, let the lobsta' boat issue go. It is what it
is/was and the guy got just the frekin' boat he wanted, be happy for
the guy and enjoy the boating conversations. Hey, I'm not telling you
what to do, I'm just sayin'.


Dan August 11th 07 03:09 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg

Wow! A little center console!




The boat looks fine.

It's that rusting hulk of a lift in the background that would concern me.

Eisboch



In all the years I've been doing business with that dealership, I've
never seen that lift being used. The dealership handles (and I mean
handles) some pretty hefty Grady Whites (36-footers) a variety of ways
with hoist trucks, forklifts, specialized hydraulic trailers, and so
forth. I'll have to ask about it.

I see Dingleberry Dan is back...who left the concrete cover off the
septic tank?


Little boy...you are the one with the septic tank problem, remember?

How do people so old act so childish?

JimH August 11th 07 03:14 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg
Wow! A little center console!



The boat looks fine.

It's that rusting hulk of a lift in the background that would concern
me.

Eisboch



In all the years I've been doing business with that dealership, I've
never seen that lift being used. The dealership handles (and I mean
handles) some pretty hefty Grady Whites (36-footers) a variety of ways
with hoist trucks, forklifts, specialized hydraulic trailers, and so
forth. I'll have to ask about it.

I see Dingleberry Dan is back...who left the concrete cover off the
septic tank?


Little boy...you are the one with the septic tank problem, remember?

How do people so old act so childish?



Take a step back Dan and look at your posts here.

Are you proud of them?



Wayne.B August 11th 07 04:23 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:53:37 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Based on your previous posts of your travels on the GB it sounds like you
are indeed living the good life.......most likely well earned.
Congratulations!


Yes thanks. The GB *is* slow though.

Nice and slow. :-)

HK August 11th 07 11:44 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
JimH wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg
Wow! A little center console!


The boat looks fine.

It's that rusting hulk of a lift in the background that would concern
me.

Eisboch


In all the years I've been doing business with that dealership, I've
never seen that lift being used. The dealership handles (and I mean
handles) some pretty hefty Grady Whites (36-footers) a variety of ways
with hoist trucks, forklifts, specialized hydraulic trailers, and so
forth. I'll have to ask about it.

I see Dingleberry Dan is back...who left the concrete cover off the
septic tank?

Little boy...you are the one with the septic tank problem, remember?

How do people so old act so childish?



Take a step back Dan and look at your posts here.

Are you proud of them?




Spreading his own brand of pig slop is what Dirty Dan does best, here
and in his obviously pitiful real life.

Dan August 11th 07 09:33 PM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 
JimH wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Dan" intrceptor@gmaildotcom wrote in message
.. .
HK wrote:
Side view:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...-08-080001.jpg
Wow! A little center console!


The boat looks fine.

It's that rusting hulk of a lift in the background that would concern
me.

Eisboch


In all the years I've been doing business with that dealership, I've
never seen that lift being used. The dealership handles (and I mean
handles) some pretty hefty Grady Whites (36-footers) a variety of ways
with hoist trucks, forklifts, specialized hydraulic trailers, and so
forth. I'll have to ask about it.

I see Dingleberry Dan is back...who left the concrete cover off the
septic tank?

Little boy...you are the one with the septic tank problem, remember?

How do people so old act so childish?



Take a step back Dan and look at your posts here.

Are you proud of them?



The truth hurts sometimes.

NOYB August 13th 07 02:40 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:39:30 -0400, HK wrote:

I've been offshore plenty of times in boats with 15" transoms, including
some of the older Boston Whalers.


If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.

Never tried it. :-)


I'd like to, but no one with a Whaler will allow me to get near it with my
Sawzall.


I never tried the saw-it-in-half test, but I have tried the
crab-pot-around-the-motor test in a 17' Whaler. About a foot of water
flooded into the boat while I was "stern-to" before I could cut the line.
The nice part was just a blip of the throttle forced most of it right out
the back over that low transom. I've also taken green water over the bow,
and the low transom just allowed it to shoot right out the back.

I certainly wouldn't want an open transom boat down here during stone crab
season unless it was a Whaler, McKee Craft, Cape Horn, etc with full
*level* floatation.
In fact, an open transom Whaler is about as safe a boat as you can buy.

There was a case of a 50-something year old man, and a 14 year old boy
drowning/dying from cold exposure down here 3 or 4 years ago when their 19'
center console caught a crab pot and turned stern-to. Water temps were 54
degrees, and seas were 3-4'. Although it's not likely to happen, it still
is a genuine concern.




CalifBill August 13th 07 07:14 AM

Spawn of Yo Ho
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:39:30 -0400, HK wrote:

I've been offshore plenty of times in boats with 15" transoms,
including some of the older Boston Whalers.

If you believe the ads, a Whaler will float after you cut it in two
with a chain saw.

Never tried it. :-)


I'd like to, but no one with a Whaler will allow me to get near it with
my Sawzall.


I never tried the saw-it-in-half test, but I have tried the
crab-pot-around-the-motor test in a 17' Whaler. About a foot of water
flooded into the boat while I was "stern-to" before I could cut the line.
The nice part was just a blip of the throttle forced most of it right out
the back over that low transom. I've also taken green water over the bow,
and the low transom just allowed it to shoot right out the back.

I certainly wouldn't want an open transom boat down here during stone crab
season unless it was a Whaler, McKee Craft, Cape Horn, etc with full
*level* floatation.
In fact, an open transom Whaler is about as safe a boat as you can buy.

There was a case of a 50-something year old man, and a 14 year old boy
drowning/dying from cold exposure down here 3 or 4 years ago when their
19' center console caught a crab pot and turned stern-to. Water temps
were 54 degrees, and seas were 3-4'. Although it's not likely to happen,
it still is a genuine concern.




Problem with at least the smaller whalers is if you get a crab pot line
wrapped on the prop and have good swells, and you go to the back to free the
line, you should have handles on the bottom of the boat to hang on to.
Happened here last year.




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