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Calif Bill August 8th 07 08:33 PM

Placement of nav lights
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 8, 1:33 pm, Tim wrote:
Harry, I must say that your new boat is verry nice. I must also say
that the present bow light is "butt ugly" LOL!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...00CC/DSC_02342...


Yup, that's the ridge right there, right above the rub strip. I can't
find the shot of the inteior, but if there is a bulkhead that
transititions the standing area and sitting area in the bow, I might
put it adjacent to that. Say you are standing against the bulkhead,
starbord side, working over the side, the light will be to your left.
Sitting int the bow, it would be to your right if that makes any
sense. Either way, unobstructed under normal conditions.


Saw a boat this weekend that had them in the bow on each side, down about 8"
from the gunnels. This was a Canadian built Jetcraft, so may not be a legal
USCG :) light setup.
http://www.harbercraft.com/images/ph...iscovery-1.jpg
somewhat shows them.



[email protected] August 8th 07 08:34 PM

Placement of nav lights
 
http://www.boatsafe.com/flash/reviewlights.html

Bookmarked, thanks


Tim August 8th 07 09:57 PM

Placement of nav lights
 

wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:20:30 -0000, Tim wrote:

I opted to put a marker
light at the front of my boat so an observer would notice the total
length of the craft.


Huh? what color? The placemenyt of lights and the color is very
important to determine direction of travel of vessels you see. Extra
lights can only confuse that issue.

Take the test at the end of this link to see what I mean
http://www.boatsafe.com/flash/reviewlights.html



Gene, when I said "marker" I should have said "navigation"

Standard red/green

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/pc/PK...Navigation+Lig...


Tim August 8th 07 10:22 PM

Placement of nav lights
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
Gene, when I said "marker" I should have said "navigation"

Standard red/green

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/pc/PK...Navigation+Lig...


Wuzzn me.

My mistake, Gene, it was:





[email protected] August 8th 07 10:47 PM

Placement of nav lights
 
On Wed, 08 Aug 07, Tim wrote:
the present bow light is "butt ugly" LOL!
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2007-08-08.jpg


HARUMPF!!! I respectfully disagree!
It's a very common and popular design. Small, unobtrusive, and hardly
noticeable when not in use but you wouldn't believe its visibility at
night. Easy to change the bulb too. I've owned a couple of boats (and
own one presently) with that exact light.
I don't know why he wants to move it. I'd guess maybe to mount an
anchor roller in that location. Otherwise, I'd leave it alone. I think
it looks just fine.

Rick

[email protected] August 8th 07 10:59 PM

Placement of nav lights
 
On Wed, 8 Aug 07, "Calif Bill" wrote:
Saw a boat this weekend that had them in the bow on each side, down about 8"
from the gunnels.


Lots of boats come from the factory in that configuration. But those
hulls are built with mounting locations already molded in. It would be
difficult to add aftermarket lights there. Main problem, getting both
the horizontal and vertical angles right on the mounting blocks.

Rick

John H. August 8th 07 11:17 PM

Placement of nav lights
 
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:13:05 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:11:59 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

I'm removing the bow red/green nav light from the new boat and
am thinking of placing one single color nav light on each side of the
center console.

I can't seem to find the damned rule regarding nav lights. I believe
having the red/green lights on the side is perfectly legal, but I'm
looking for a "source." The USCG site seems to be down here.

Anyone? Ferris? Ferris Bueller?


http://www.boatus.com/onlinecourse/R...AVIGATION.html

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...3cfr118.75.pdf




Thanks:

"Sidelights - Colored lights - red on port and green on starboard -
showing an unbroken arc of the horizon of 112.5 degrees, from dead ahead
to 22.5 degrees abaft the beam on each side."

Sidelights it is.


Harry, I'd double think that, first..... For a center console or
walk around, I'd rather have the lights where they won't be occluded
by somebody standing in the "wrong" place....


Not a problem with Harry's boat.
--
John H

Marc Heusser August 8th 07 11:31 PM

Placement of nav lights
 
In article ,
HK wrote:

I'm removing the bow red/green nav light from the new boat and
am thinking of placing one single color nav light on each side of the
center console.


I could not find it in English, and regulations are somewhat country
specific.
Here is an excerpt from the German regulations
http://www.bsh.de/en/Maritime%20ship...gation%20light
s/index.jsp
(who take it very seriously ...):

.... Side lights should indicate the actual width of the ship. If that is
not possible they should at least have 85% of the width as their
distance.
(This is the preferred arrangement - only for smaller boats below 20
meters a combined red/green light at the bow is also acceptable.)
They should be at least 1 meter below the top light. ...

HTH

Marc

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http://www.heusser.com
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Dan August 8th 07 11:57 PM

Placement of nav lights
 
HK wrote:


I'm removing the bow red/green nav light from the new boat and
am thinking of placing one single color nav light on each side of the
center console.

I can't seem to find the damned rule regarding nav lights. I believe
having the red/green lights on the side is perfectly legal, but I'm
looking for a "source." The USCG site seems to be down here.

Anyone? Ferris? Ferris Bueller?


When you close your eyes and imagine that you have a lobster boat, where
are they located? If you can get a clear picture of this imaginary
vessel into your narcissistic brain, you might find what you're looking for.

Dan

Wayne.B August 9th 07 12:00 AM

Placement of nav lights
 
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:33:48 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

This was a Canadian built Jetcraft, so may not be a legal
USCG :) light setup.


USCG does not specify a location, only a visibility requirement.

Personally I'd leave them on the bow or mount individual lights on
each side of the hull.

I think the center console is a bad idea for all the reasons mentioned
by others.


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