On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:39:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

If you want to edumacate youself on it, here is a great book:

Piloting & Dead Reckoning - Shufeldt/Dunlap/Bauer, Fourth Edition.

Tell you everything you wanted to know and then some.

You might also want to pick up a copy of Chart No. 1.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:12:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:39:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

If you want to edumacate youself on it, here is a great book:

Piloting & Dead Reckoning - Shufeldt/Dunlap/Bauer, Fourth Edition.

Tell you everything you wanted to know and then some.

You might also want to pick up a copy of Chart No. 1.

Thanks. Order is in to Phineas Fogg, bookseller in OR.
4th Ed., very good condition. I'll order Chart 1 shortly.
You may have mentioned this to me before, so I didn't
want to let it go again.

--Vic

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:35:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:12:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:39:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

If you want to edumacate youself on it, here is a great book:

Piloting & Dead Reckoning - Shufeldt/Dunlap/Bauer, Fourth Edition.

Tell you everything you wanted to know and then some.

You might also want to pick up a copy of Chart No. 1.

Thanks. Order is in to Phineas Fogg, bookseller in OR.
4th Ed., very good condition. I'll order Chart 1 shortly.
You may have mentioned this to me before, so I didn't
want to let it go again.

Thanks. Ordered "Chapman Nautical Chart No. 1: The Essential Guide to
Chart Reading and Navigation." Got this one new.
Soon I'll be a sailor, er, boater again. Or maybe just a reader.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?
A/ Certainly...
2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?
B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to pinpoint my
position on a chart
3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?
C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.

What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic

FYI - You're replying to a moron.

"Dan" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?
A/ Certainly...
2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?
B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to
pinpoint my position on a chart
3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?
C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.
What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic

FYI - You're replying to a moron.

Dan is as Dan says!

Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?
A/ Certainly...
2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?
B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to
pinpoint my position on a chart
3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?
C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.
What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic
FYI - You're replying to a moron.

Dan is as Dan says!



I know you are but what am I?

Try harder next time.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:42:12 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

I have a compass mounted in the boat. I do not have a hand held.

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

If their boat is sinking and they have to man a life raft, it could come in
handy. Or, if someone angrily smashed their laptop on the mounted compass,
a hand held could come in handy.

3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?

Yes, charts are aboard for any area in which I may roam.
--
John H

On Jul 27, 12:29?pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:42:12 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

I have a compass mounted in the boat. I do not have a hand held.

The advantage of a hand held vs using the permanently mounted compass
is the ability to sight across the handheld and get a bearing on
charted buoy, beacon, point of land, etc. That's pretty hard to do
accurately with the permanent mount compass, and if you're off 15-20
degrees in the bearing you might as well almost not bother.

To be properly equipped, IMO, you should have both aboard. Unless you
are on a small or uncharted body of water like an inland lake or you
have intimate local knowledge.




2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

If their boat is sinking and they have to man a life raft, it could come in
handy. Or, if someone angrily smashed their laptop on the mounted compass,
a hand held could come in handy.


And.....if the electro-nav goes out and a boater can get a bearing on
at least two (three would be better) charted objects it then becomes
possible to draw some plot lines on the chart and determine where
you're at. :-)




3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?



Yes, charts are aboard for any area in which I may roam.


Good show! Welcome to the annual anachronist's convention, I'm sitting
in the next row back. :-)


--
John H

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?


Nope to a handheld. Has gone missing over the years, and do not back county
hike anymore. Have fixed compass on the dash. As to paper charts, yes for
all the places I boat, except some lakes. 2 GPS, fixed plotter and handheld
aboard. Only time the laptop is aboard is to download charts to the
plotter.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

Nope. I did, however, install a fixed compass after I purchased the boat as
it had none.


2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

Certainly.


3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?


No charts. I do have a GPS and trips on this boat are normally limited to
daytime trips to sites within an hour or so away at tops. I can get to all
of them with my eyes closed.